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Remove this and I'll vote for it. I feel strongly that the previous wording where we see what they offer without predisposition is more in the Gōketsu's interests.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Well we can't do sealing for a day or so while we heal, but the primary reason I'm not voting for your plan is that there isn't a sealing section.
We are racing Sasori for the Rift, now is not the time to slack off just cuz politics is happening. Politics will always be happening.
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We're not committing. While yes I want to do it this is, the main reason I included it was to have a narrative reason for Kei & Noburi to take combat missions so they unstagnate
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What do you think they can (and actually will) give us that benefits us? We don't need money or material goods and they're not going to share clan secret stuff for some useful but not game changing seals.
Great way to put it. There's not much reason not to always have SSA consequence imo
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Thank you for looking all that up. That's potentially a lot more goodies than I expected. Hopefully there's some genin stuff in there that we can easily do on the side, at least to give us an idea of what the harder ones might be.
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On the more pessimistic side Isan might have just reinvented the same things we already have but slightly different
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At least then we'll know 🤷♂️ They've been sitting on Hazo's brain for years.
QMs get mega evil points if it turns out there's a seal there that protects against EM nukes.
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I actually think we're healed up now. Day one of recovery was Hazō meeting with Uplift and talking about Jashin, spending all night coming up with the plan. Day two was the festival. I think technically we still have the night if we want to do something with it, but yeah we're good to start sealing in the morning.
I thought it was retconned into meeting with Uplift day of finishing DE, and the festival on day one of recovery. But I confess I may have mixed things up.
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Ah you're right, I was going off of the timeline document but it hasn't been updated yet.
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Sure, give a moment to edit the plan!
I'd be willing to add the same thing to mine, if it would earn your vote?
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My action plan (quoted below) has Hazou doing some Uplift stuff that we've discussed in the past (specifically: stuff for the hospital).
If you like it, would you mind voting for it?
My action plan (quoted below) has Hazou doing some Uplift stuff that we've discussed in the past (specifically: stuff for the hospital).
If you like it, would you mind voting for it?
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Alright, here's a full critique of your plan, Oneiros, with suggested alternative phrasings:
But a "showdown with Akatsuki" sounds like we intend to BotG 2 them, which we absolutely do not have the firepower to accomplish, and people IC will be quick to point this out to us even if that's not what Hazou is trying to talk about. I would suggest the following revision, for clarity of intent:
This isn't wordcount-optimized, sorry. I just want to focus on hitting the right notes first before we worry about conveying the intent efficiently.
(Also I don't really like starting the conversation with "we are going to do this" when the whole point of meetings like this is that we're soliciting advice from our trusted advisors. Better to start with our motives and build out from there.)
I would suggest replacing that section with the following:
Overall right now I still very much want to do the crystal science, but if you incorporate my suggestions I would certainly find your plan a lot more tempting.
I think "potential showdown with Akatsuki" conveys the wrong impression about the nature of our possible expected conflicts. We might need to assassinate an Akatsuki member like Sasori, and we might need to hold a siege position against Akatsuki while we explore the rift. Neither of those are a certainty, but I agree with you that turning our eye towards what power we need to gather in case of such an eventuality is a good idea.
But a "showdown with Akatsuki" sounds like we intend to BotG 2 them, which we absolutely do not have the firepower to accomplish, and people IC will be quick to point this out to us even if that's not what Hazou is trying to talk about. I would suggest the following revision, for clarity of intent:
- When necromancy comes to a head we may need to fight one or more of the Akatsuki, which means we need as much power as possible.
- Mari, you're by far our strongest. What matchups do you think you could win?
- What seals would help your combat style?
- Mari, you're by far our strongest. What matchups do you think you could win?
I see your angle here: you want Noburi to quickly reach S-Rank power through Summoning, even if it's for a single battle. It's a good idea, since Noburi has so much chakra that summoning Gamabunta isn't out of the question if he can secure the contract. I think this can be more focused and precise, though. His ordinary summon contracts won't be relevant to the Akatsuki fight, only the S-Rank ones, and I don't think we should just leave this as an imperative for him to "do everything you can". Here is my suggested revision:
- Noburi, you have the chakra to summon S-Rank Toads; all that stands in your way is the lack of a contract.
- If you needed a one-time contract with Gamabunta within the next few months, what would you need from us?
- If we explain our plans, the Toads may be sympathetic to the idea of resurrecting Jiraiya.
- Alternatively, Toad jutsu could give Mari an extra edge.
- If all else fails, we want to help you secure more summons in general.
- If you needed a one-time contract with Gamabunta within the next few months, what would you need from us?
This isn't wordcount-optimized, sorry. I just want to focus on hitting the right notes first before we worry about conveying the intent efficiently.
We've talked about this before, and I see that your main motive here is to get Kei and Noburi unstagnated in combat, but I still feel like this isn't the best way to achieve our goals here:
- We backed out of the Squirrel Scroll hunt IIRC because we started feeling like our current strategy wasn't up to the task. To my understanding, we don't have a new strategy. If anything, we'll probably need to keep Hazou at home and that means we won't have Canvass helping us track down ninja encampments. I don't disagree in principle with resuming the Squirrel Scroll hunt, but I think we're facing an impenetrable contradiction in our current situation.
- The Honey cave crystal is, well, I do think that we could source more crystal relatively handily. With adequate caution and a good plan we shouldn't have to fight the vine golems again and can extract as much as the entire crystal from the cave if results favour us. But that isn't what we need. More crystal is good, until it too runs out, and I highly doubt that what we gain there would last us until ES 60. The main value in my mind for revisiting the Honey cave is in the hopes that it gives us clues for how to secure a renewable supply of the crystal, which needs a more hands-on touch from Hazou, which runs into the same contradiction as the Squirrel Scroll hunt.
(Also I don't really like starting the conversation with "we are going to do this" when the whole point of meetings like this is that we're soliciting advice from our trusted advisors. Better to start with our motives and build out from there.)
I would suggest replacing that section with the following:
- We're going to need everyone in top form, and with our busy jobs in Leaf it can be easy for our battle instincts to dull.
- We should go rid the world of some deadly horror sometime soon. Any suggestions?
At a glance, no complaints here. There's a typo of "inn" but I like that the deal is concise and flexible, and Ino's support may be just what we need to make the Squirrel Scroll hunt viable.
This, also, looks good to me.
Overall right now I still very much want to do the crystal science, but if you incorporate my suggestions I would certainly find your plan a lot more tempting.
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They don't have them in their IN, unfortunately, and there are literally no other copies of these seals in existence to my knowledge.
Emstar
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Ditch this and I'll vote for it.
Thats not quite true. We made a copy of both (to the best of Hazous ability at the time at least) when we [x] Write down a copy of every seal you've ever seen and give that to Jiraiya. /pedantic
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Those are uninfused blanks drawn by someone who doesn't even know the seal.
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This doesn't stop us from making the blank, giving it over, and asking them to figure out what it does. We've done that before with the casino seals.
Emstar
The Shining One
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Yes, and? I don't see how that's a barrier to what Faflec is (more or less) proposing.
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Oh I'm just being pedantic to your pedantic. Those are not technically seals, you see. I don't feel particularly strongly one way or the other about them.