Scattershot thoughts as feedback...
- "Use wastefully"
- doesn't really exist, imo. They're genin. They're squishy. If using it helps them survive, or gives them better odds, then they should use it.
- "No kill like overkill" is basically a Goketsu creed.
- "20 genin" or "a mission a week"
- That count is an overreach, I think. There are only 100 academy graduates every year, and genin die at a horrifying rate.
- "week" is a bit much, don't you think? This isn't Yagura's Mist. Besides, they're genin. There's going to be less demand for their services than chuunin or jonin.
- Besides, even if this is the case (which I remain highly skeptical of, and would need to see what citations you're basing these estimates off of), this means we can get even better stuff in return.
- Ino is going to be playing fair and in good faith, after all. And so are we.
- "Why restrict to genin"
- because that's what Ino wants. That's what she's asking for. That's why she wants to buy them from us.
- If she wants to make a separate deal for chuunin access, then we can make a separate deal for that.
- "Why not just sell them a certain amount each month,"
- 3 seals are a lot easier to keep track of.
- Because, up until the genin restocks, these seals would be at the Goketsu Compound, where they're more secure and less likely to be misplaced or stolen by a non-Yamanaka ninja.
- "The genin might lie and build up a stockpile"
- Alright, and then the Hammer of Ino will come down on them for turning her into a liar.
- Ino will be trading in good faith, and if one of her ninja makes a liar or a sneak out of her, then she'll have to punish them harshly.
- Doing this tarnishes the Good Faith Deal that the Goketsu Clan and the Yamanaka Clan are making, and reduces the likelihood that a similar deal will happen in the future.
- Hazou is publicly known to be a jonin-tier sealmaster. He has the rank. In this society, that means something. A genin going behind a jonin's back to steal a few seals? That's terrifying. Not everyone is as insane as Hazou is.
- The Yamanaka Clan and Goketsu Clan are allies. This damages the political, economic, and military connections that the Yamanaka Clan has with the Goketsu Clan. A Clan that has a world-famous sealmaster as their clan head. It's a longterm dumbass move for a questionable short term benefit.
- Eventually those stockpiled seals will run out. And if that genin ruins the chances of that deal being renewed? Then no one will have access to Goo Bombs.
- And imagine that you're a Yamanaka genin.
- Imagine that one of those Goo Bombs saved your life once, or your cousin's life, or your best friend's life, or even your neighbor's life.
- And now, some no-name dumbass is going to diminish the chances that the clan gets more of those seals?
- I imagine that the dumbass in question would be in for a mountain of trouble.
This strikes me as wishful reasoning.
Scattershot thoughts as feedback...
- "Use wastefully"
- doesn't really exist, imo. They're genin. They're squishy. If using it helps them survive, or gives them better odds, then they should use it.
- "No kill like overkill" is basically a Goketsu creed.
"Sell the Yamanaka a staggering amount of goo bombs" starts taking more of Hazou's time for xp/seal research. Either way, I'd like to know how many goo bombs we're selling, so we can price accordingly.
- "20 genin" or "a mission a week"
- That count is an overreach, I think. There are only 100 academy graduates every year, and genin die at a horrifying rate.
- "week" is a bit much, don't you think? This isn't Yagura's Mist. Besides, they're genin. There's going to be less demand for their services than chuunin or jonin.
- Besides, even if this is the case (which I remain highly skeptical of, and would need to see what citations you're basing these estimates off of), this means we can get even better stuff in return.
- "Why restrict to genin"
- because that's what Ino wants. That's what she's asking for. That's why she wants to buy them from us.
- If she wants to make a separate deal for chuunin access, then we can make a separate deal for that.
This makes sense, and your numbers check out. good reasoning.
- Ino is going to be playing fair and in good faith, after all. And so are we.
It's kinda rude to make a deal bassed on the(good) assumption of Ino's good faith, while giving every one of her subordinates a reason to act in bad faith on her end of the deal, thus betraying her good faith on her behalf. When one of them bends the deal, it puts Ino in an awkward position.
- "Why not just sell them a certain amount each month,"
- 3 seals are a lot easier to keep track of.
Who do you think will be losing track of the seals? I can keep £10 in my wallet as easily as I can keep £3, and I don't lose either.
- "Why not just sell them a certain amount each month,"
- Because, up until the genin restocks, these seals would be at the Goketsu Compound, where they're more secure and less likely to be misplaced or stolen by a non-Yamanaka ninja.
I really don't think "they have a hundred goo bombs" is going to be a decisive consideration in an operation a big as
raiding the Yamanaka clan vault. If I wanted goo bombs that badly, I'd steal them from a Genin.
- "The genin might lie and build up a stockpile"
- Alright, and then the Hammer of Ino will come down on them for turning her into a liar.
The Genin probably don't plan on getting caught. the people most likley to notice(their squadmates) are going to be the least likely to snitch on them, especially as they all benefit from extra goo bombs.
- "The genin might lie and build up a stockpile"
- Alright, and then the Hammer of Ino will come down on them for turning her into a liar.
- Doing this tarnishes the Good Faith Deal that the Goketsu Clan and the Yamanaka Clan are making, and reduces the likelihood that a similar deal will happen in the future.
The Genin might not know/care about there political dealings. If caught, they likley wouldn't expect Ino to volunteer that breach to the Goketsu.
- "The genin might lie and build up a stockpile"
- Hazou is publicly known to be a jonin-tier sealmaster. He has the rank. In this society, that means something. A genin going behind a jonin's back to steal a few seals? That's terrifying. Not everyone is as insane as Hazou is.
Eh, how's Hazou ever gonna find out? Besides, he made a deal practicaly
asking to be grifted, he probably doesn't care that much.
- "The genin might lie and build up a stockpile"
- Eventually those stockpiled seals will run out. And if that genin ruins the chances of that deal being renewed? Then no one will have access to Goo Bombs.
The deal might not be renewed? Sounds like an excellent reason to stockpile! Those extra seals could save your teammate's lives one day!
- "The genin might lie and build up a stockpile"
- And imagine that you're a Yamanaka genin.
- Imagine that one of those Goo Bombs saved your life once, or your cousin's life, or your best friend's life, or even your neighbor's life.
I have. I would want to make sure I have some extra, just in case of a long mission, or if the deal doesn't get renewed. After all, I've seen them save my best friend's life!
- "The genin might lie and build up a stockpile"
- And now, some no-name dumbass is going to diminish the chances that the clan gets more of those seals?
Again, how the hell would the Goketsu learn about this? even IFF Ino catches you, would she tell the Goketsu?
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Sorry if I'm spending so much effort on this, I guess it dosn't matter that much. Such an unforced error just bugs me.
Make it easy on everyone, negotiate for the number of actual seals we'll sell, then sell them. It's that simple. If they run out, sell more.
