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Right, so my take on the deal. In no particular order.
1. It's absolutely a breeding program. Not as abhorrent as what Jiraiya theorized for Mist, but the purpose is fairly clear. The Uchiha need to grow a new generation of ninja, and are heavily bottlenecked by the adoption/marriage restrictions. This is one way for them to get around these restrictions. It's pretty amazing how desperate they are, to agree to such a deal. One thought that comes to mind, is that this probably isn't going to be a harmonious relationship between clans, given what it's built on. At minimum, they have to feel humiliated by the arrangement, while the Goketsu will be very uncomfortable or creeped out. That is not a good foundation for an alliance.
2. Sad as it may be to admit, consent is probably not an issue. We can guard against coercion from the Uchiha side by being very clear that there will be no negative consequences for girls who refuse - and they're out clan members, so we get to decide this. However, I expect that enough of them will truly, genuinely want this. Putting aside the status increase from bearing the child of a ninja, and the fact that they do their duty in restoring the Uchiha this way, Hazou is handsome, charismatic, and soon to be incredibly rich. He's the head of a council clan, a sealing prodigy, and a very strong combatant in his own right. Insofar as ninja deathworld standards go, he's as desirable as they come. I doubt we'll be short on volunteers when the time comes.
3. The kids' fate is a major issue, and probably the main negative when it comes to the deal's utility. Even assuming they'll be treated well by the Uchiha side, which is strongly doubt given the circumstances, I imagine they'll be carrying the shame of being the result of Uchiha women whoring themselves out to the Goketsu, which is how anyone negatively inclined is going to interpret the situation. And it's likely that they'll put most of the blame on Hazou, because that's just how people work.
4. All in all though, I don't think we'd really be doing any worse than the setting's average in accepting the deal. Similar things surely happen on a regular basis, if on a smaller scale, and if the Uchiha are willing to do this, then they eventually will with a different partner. I don't think we'll make the world any worse by accepting, which is a bar we've failed to clear in the past.
5. However, my view is that we need to do better than "not worse" and "what everyone else is doing". This deal is going to have heavy hidden costs. It goes against our ideals in the manner in which it reduces people to objects - and against Hazou's ideals, if you consider how angry he was this update at the Nara's remark about ninja dying without impacting their mission. It will weigh heavily on Hazou, with his strong beliefs about the sacredness of family, and his idealism will suffer for having accepted. It will definitely impact our reputation - not necessarily within the population at large, who already believe the Goketsu to be sexual deviants, but amongst our peers, the other clan heads and heirs, who will easily see this deal for what it is, and probably view it as disgusting. And finally, I think it will poison both clans for decades to come. Nobody is going to walk out of this feeling happy, and I strongly doubt we'll be able to integrate the Uchiha adoptees smoothly.
In the end, that's a no from me. The primary reason being that this goes strongly against our ideals, and I consider ideals to be very important. And I don't see a way to modify the arrangement in such a way as to remove this problem. And unfortunately, I don't think there's a way for the Uchiha to solve their problem without going through with something similar. A really unfortunate situation, all in all.
1. It's absolutely a breeding program. Not as abhorrent as what Jiraiya theorized for Mist, but the purpose is fairly clear. The Uchiha need to grow a new generation of ninja, and are heavily bottlenecked by the adoption/marriage restrictions. This is one way for them to get around these restrictions. It's pretty amazing how desperate they are, to agree to such a deal. One thought that comes to mind, is that this probably isn't going to be a harmonious relationship between clans, given what it's built on. At minimum, they have to feel humiliated by the arrangement, while the Goketsu will be very uncomfortable or creeped out. That is not a good foundation for an alliance.
2. Sad as it may be to admit, consent is probably not an issue. We can guard against coercion from the Uchiha side by being very clear that there will be no negative consequences for girls who refuse - and they're out clan members, so we get to decide this. However, I expect that enough of them will truly, genuinely want this. Putting aside the status increase from bearing the child of a ninja, and the fact that they do their duty in restoring the Uchiha this way, Hazou is handsome, charismatic, and soon to be incredibly rich. He's the head of a council clan, a sealing prodigy, and a very strong combatant in his own right. Insofar as ninja deathworld standards go, he's as desirable as they come. I doubt we'll be short on volunteers when the time comes.
3. The kids' fate is a major issue, and probably the main negative when it comes to the deal's utility. Even assuming they'll be treated well by the Uchiha side, which is strongly doubt given the circumstances, I imagine they'll be carrying the shame of being the result of Uchiha women whoring themselves out to the Goketsu, which is how anyone negatively inclined is going to interpret the situation. And it's likely that they'll put most of the blame on Hazou, because that's just how people work.
4. All in all though, I don't think we'd really be doing any worse than the setting's average in accepting the deal. Similar things surely happen on a regular basis, if on a smaller scale, and if the Uchiha are willing to do this, then they eventually will with a different partner. I don't think we'll make the world any worse by accepting, which is a bar we've failed to clear in the past.
5. However, my view is that we need to do better than "not worse" and "what everyone else is doing". This deal is going to have heavy hidden costs. It goes against our ideals in the manner in which it reduces people to objects - and against Hazou's ideals, if you consider how angry he was this update at the Nara's remark about ninja dying without impacting their mission. It will weigh heavily on Hazou, with his strong beliefs about the sacredness of family, and his idealism will suffer for having accepted. It will definitely impact our reputation - not necessarily within the population at large, who already believe the Goketsu to be sexual deviants, but amongst our peers, the other clan heads and heirs, who will easily see this deal for what it is, and probably view it as disgusting. And finally, I think it will poison both clans for decades to come. Nobody is going to walk out of this feeling happy, and I strongly doubt we'll be able to integrate the Uchiha adoptees smoothly.
In the end, that's a no from me. The primary reason being that this goes strongly against our ideals, and I consider ideals to be very important. And I don't see a way to modify the arrangement in such a way as to remove this problem. And unfortunately, I don't think there's a way for the Uchiha to solve their problem without going through with something similar. A really unfortunate situation, all in all.
