Unironically yes! "Okay Yuno I'm sorry I got upset at you, this Jashin stuff is new to me. As I am the prophet of Births, as my acolyte you will be expected to support that aspect. You and I will only hunt those who threaten more births, like bandits, murderers, predators, and the like."

And we know she feels very strongly about having children when Noburi is of traditional Isanese age so I'm sure she'll be elated about that...
Maybe a line for "Joyful births" when we're founding the religion, to make sure we don't paperclip optimizer ourselves
 
[X] Action Plan: Embrace Your Inner Snuncle Warcrimes
Words: tbd

  • People are idiots, we need space.
  • Write a letter, telling Asuma you're going to be working on the Bijuu Seal Chain, that one Barrier seal of his, and some other seals for the Dragonwar for a few weeks. Politely ask that nothing happens that we would need to be interrupted for.
  • Write a letter to Ami, tell her we're going to be working on some seals. She knows which. Ask her to run interference with Mari so that we're not disturbed. She doesn't have to work with Mari, just coordinate well enough that they don't interfere with each other.
  • Make Noburi temporary clan head. We need a break from bullshit politics. Maybe he can persuade Jin and Mio that bomb-ass jutsu (such as the S-rank armor jutsu that would let them scale towards jonin builds, and the FREE PYRAMID SUPPORT lootboxes) are worth sharing their secrets amongst their literal chosen family. They're trying to hoard secrets, just like they bitch about Clans doing. They Clans do this, they knew it would be asked of them. Bah.
  • Tell Kei she can toss us in a caldera later, but right now, we have Sealing to do. Don't disturb us.
  • Lock ourselves in a Kagome Approved Research Facility and churn out seals for a few weeks.
    • Minato seal chain
    • Asuma's Barrier Seal
    • Other seals
 
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Wow this is like an Any% Speedrun to disaster.

Maybe this is simply an elaborate ploy to get everyone going Missing Nin again as it becomes impossible to juggle the innumerable flaming bowling pins spread across several hundred updates, so that a vote finally, for once, ends up being a plan that involves Face-Punching?
 
Noooo we didn't get to see that meeting in-person. :( :( :(

Maybe she'll recount it to us if we ask!
The event is probably within lore update territory, since it wouldn't give away any actionable information you don't already have, but on the other hand it wouldn't be easy to write something impactful enough to match Yuno's recollection.
 
  • Tell Kei she can toss us in a caldera later, but right now, we have Sealing to do. Don't disturb us.
  • Lock ourselves in a Kagome Approved Research Facility and churn out seals for a few weeks.

"Don't worry guys, I'm neither a sincere worshipper or a puppet of the slaughtergod. We can talk about that later, though, now I have to isolate myself with my sealing notes from three Kage and two Sannin and work on sealing projects!"

Imo this is a good next move, don't get me wrong, but if we don't do some reassuring first this kinda looks like Jashinite!Hazo or Crazy!Hazo running off to build a horrifying sealing creation.
 
I wonder if Ami is gonna tell us to weaponize this somehow and hijack Jashinism from Hidan the way she took over as Shadow kage for Mist.
 
I wonder if Ami is gonna tell us to weaponize this somehow and hijack Jashinism from Hidan the way she took over as Shadow kage for Mist.
Unlikely, imo. Ami works with full-fledged power systems, and works best when she can introduce her favour economy to the rank and file ninja of the power system. By building up a good impression with dozens of ninja and having most of them indebted to her for one reason or another, she can line up the dominoes to make the various ninja coordinate where they weren't coordinating.

Ami would need to go to Demon or wherever Hidan keeps his Jashin cult and ingratiate herself into their circles one by one before she could bind their collective power to her will and unseat the titan at the head of the cult. Here in Leaf, she would find Hidan quite untouchable, at least when it comes to her bread and butter strategy that made her famous.

(Plus, I don't think Hidan really cares all that much about having his cult behind him. If they all spontaneously renounced Jashinism one day he'd just slaughter them all and go on his merry way praising Jashin as a wandering murderhobo.)
 
If the intention is to determine the difficulty, Hazō already has the research notes. He rates it as "chūnin-level".
Given that we already have Jiraiya's research notes on the AB seal, what level of difficulty is it?
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped
Just following up, thanks.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped
Just following up, thanks.
 
  • Instant Darkness Dome: Blanks out all light in a certain radius
  • Electrocution Seal: sends a surge of raiton energy (which works exactly like electricity except in cases where that would make the QMs lives difficult, at which point it works differently) into whatever they are attached to for some period of time. Touching the object is harmful but not lethal.
  • Substitution Seals: Two-element seal. Swap the positions and velocities of the objects the seal elements are attached to, so long as those objects are close enough, have LOS to one another, are below mass and volume limits, and are similar enough in mass.
  • Earth Pillar Seal: when activated, extrudes a 50cm thick pillar of chakra construct stone at a respectable speed.
  • City of Pillars. Causes 1d6 dozen stone pillars of various randomly-chosen heights (5m to 30m) and diameters (10cm to 500 cm) to erupt out of the ground in a large area. For some reason, they all have either the kanji for 'Dream' or 'Sunshine' on them.
  • Twin Repulsion Seals: When both are active, they repel each other when they get too close.
@Velorien @Paperclipped How hard are these (without notes)?

For the record we already know Instant Darkness Dome is Chuunin, Earth Pillar is Genin, and City of Pillars is Chuunin.

We do not yet know what Electrocution, Substitution, or Twin Repulsion difficulty from what I can tell.
 
@Velorien @Paperclipped How hard are these (without notes)?

For the record we already know Instant Darkness Dome is Chuunin, Earth Pillar is Genin, and City of Pillars is Chuunin.

We do not yet know what Electrocution, Substitution, or Twin Repulsion difficulty from what I can tell.
@Paperclipped @Velorien @eaglejarl since we've already made an infusion roll on Air Tunnel seals, can Hazou estimate its difficultly compared to DEs and MS7? Roughly the same?
 
may want to link to what Air Tunnels are

PSA: Progress on the Air Tunneler Seal.

Hazō made made a tiny bit of progress after 5 prep days. The seal is extremely difficult, both in terms of chakra infusion and the precision that's necessary for drawing it. At this rate he estimates that it's months of work still to do.

EDIT: This is referring to the research that Hazō did a couple of updates ago that we never got around to rolling. It is not for the research related to the current (Clones) poll and it can be factored into your decision for this poll.

I can't find the write up of the actual seal. But IIRC it's a modified implosion seal that stores air continuously instead of all at once.

EDIT: To avoid double posting,

Dampener Seal - Similar to 5SB in that when activated, this seal somewhat specially locks the object to which it is applied, albeit weakly. This has the effect of smoothing out vibrations (like from human hands) in a similar fashion to IRL surgery robots. When applied to the proper tool - chisel for Carving, inkbrush for Calligraphy, scalpel for Mednin, etc. It applies a bonus of +Creator's Sealing AB to the relevant skill. Each seal lasts for "a few hours" on the time ladder. Users need to buy a Stunt (20 XP) to get the bonus, each Craftsmanship skill needs a copy of the stunt. I.e. if you have the Stunt for Calligraphy you'd still need to buy it for Carving.
 
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I can't find the write up of the actual seal. But IIRC it's a modified implosion seal that stores air continuously instead of all at once
My original idea was a Tunneler's Friend variant, the comparison to the Implosion Seal was purely in a "can this much air be stored" kind of way.
The Air Tunnel seal has been discussed a lot the past few days in the Discord (mostly by me). Long story short, the math works out that it's reasonable to make a seal that will continuously seal the air below a dropped projectile. Without air, there's no air resistance, and suddenly we have Rods of God that can harm Hidden Rock

My understanding is that it's an original seal that is based off of the implosion seal. It absorbs air from in front of it on a continuous basis as opposed to the implosion seal which instantaneously absorbs air in a sphere around itself

Second twelve hour clone, continue investigating Air Tunneling Seals.
  • Similar in function to implosion seals or tunneler's friend. With enough of these active at once, air resistance should be reduced or negated as air is absorbed before it can cause friction
 
Unironically yes! "Okay Yuno I'm sorry I got upset at you, this Jashin stuff is new to me. As I am the prophet of Births, as my acolyte you will be expected to support that aspect. You and I will only hunt those who threaten more births, like bandits, murderers, predators, and the like."

And we know she feels very strongly about having children when Noburi is of traditional Isanese age so I'm sure she'll be elated about that...
Hell yeah! Yuno needs more hugs. We need more nephews.
I'd vote enthusiastically for Yuno-Hazou (YuZou?HaNo?) missions (perhaps as an interlude?). Also, is Yuno strong enough to become a hunter-nin? She'd love that, and if we can help make that happen she might forgive some of our lack of "devotion".

[X] Action Plan: Embrace Your Inner Snuncle Warcrimes
Words: tbd

  • People are idiots, we need space.
  • Write a letter, telling Asuma you're going to be working on the Bijuu Seal Chain, that one Barrier seal of his, and some other seals for the Dragonwar for a few weeks. Politely ask that nothing happens that we would need to be interrupted for.
  • Write a letter to Ami, tell her we're going to be working on some seals. She knows which. Ask her to run interference with Mari so that we're not disturbed. She doesn't have to work with Mari, just coordinate well enough that they don't interfere with each other.
  • Make Noburi temporary clan head. We need a break from bullshit politics. Maybe he can persuade Jin and Mio that bomb-ass jutsu (such as the S-rank armor jutsu that would let them scale towards jonin builds, and the FREE PYRAMID SUPPORT lootboxes) are worth sharing their secrets amongst their literal chosen family. They're trying to hoard secrets, just like they bitch about Clans doing. They Clans do this, they knew it would be asked of them. Bah.
  • Tell Kei she can toss us in a caldera later, but right now, we have Sealing to do. Don't disturb us.
  • Lock ourselves in a Kagome Approved Research Facility and churn out seals for a few weeks.
    • Minato seal chain
    • Asuma's Barrier Seal
    • Other seals
Is this plan implying we should stop FOOMing for a few weeks?
 
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Ayyyy, Yuno focused chapters!
"The Great Prophet took one look at me and he understood, Hazō. He understood everything, even the bits Noburi will never get. Especially those bits. I didn't have to explain what it meant that blood was colour, or how you could want somebody dead with all your heart but not care what happened to them at the same time.
Noburi might not understand this, but I wonder if he at least acknowledges this or knows intellectually that this is how Yuno feels?

Nobby, please be a good husband in this regard...

Nothing wrong with those murderous impulses, Yuno, especially in your setting. Ganbare!
And then he told me that everything I was feeling had a name, and that name was Jashin, and that Lord Jashin's teachings would make me complete and fill all the holes in my heart that my happiness as a Gōketsu never will."
I'm immediately quite skeptical, but alright, I guess we'll see. Depends on what Jashin's teachings are, I suppose.

"Exactly!" Yuno exclaimed. "He didn't just say, 'Follow my precepts and you will live a proper life' and then stand there and do nothing while people bullied you for being unclean even when you were doing everything right, like Ui does. He didn't just say, 'Believe in me and it'll make you a good person', and then turn his back on you when you couldn't believe enough, like the Will of Fire does.
Ah, my poor girl. Outcasted in Isan, so she tried to invest herself in a Will of Fire mentality? And then felt like it didn't work because she felt like a fraud doing it? That's rough.

He set you a practical test you were capable of passing, and when you passed, he rewarded you with his favour. As Jashinists, we know exactly what Lord Jashin wants from us, and we know that doing it will earn us more of his favour, and it isn't even hard because Lord Jashin is already in our hearts and all we have to do is be true to ourselves.
I see...

"The Great Prophet said you could teach me about theology and interpreting Lord Jashin's will, and I could teach you about true devotion and not being a pussy, and together we could set up a temple and start gathering converts and make sure you met your sacrifice quota.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is already a perfect line to read standalone, and it's honestly even better with the whole context of Yuno's usual speech patterns, and based on who's talking to who. Especially because I can imagine her saying this while being perfectly earnest.

"Just… I'll deal with you later," he hissed at Yuno. "For now, do not talk to anyone about Hidan or Jashin. That's a clan head order. And for the love of the ancestors, put that amulet away."

Yuno gave him a blank look, but as he turned away from her and headed out to meet his guests, she mercifully headed in the direction of her room rather than in the direction of making his life even more complicated.
Yeesh Hazoupilot, don't be an asshole to Yuno of all people. You know how sensitive she is to thinking "I fucked up understanding people again". I guess he's understandably stressed as some people pointed out, and his brain was primed for anti-Jashin mode, though.

I was a bit worried when I read Hazoupilot's instinctive reaction to Yuno because I was worried the players might take their cue from Hazoupilot, but I'm glad to see I'm wrong there.

Welp. Just alienated Yuno.

The blank face reaction to him saying GTFO is certainly not good, but until we see more reaction from her I wouldn't necessarily assume alienation.

I feel like Hazou should have been more supportive of Yuno here.

I'm neutral on Hazoupilot's reaction since he can react however he wants and I love him too even though I don't agree with his reactions. However, I greatly appreciate you and your support and kind words for Yuno that you posted after. High five!

Cults are very interesting to me for personal reasons, therefore I'm highly interested to see where this goes. Very nice chapter!
 
Hidan would make for a better Uncle than Snek Uncle.

Also I have a feeling Ami might convert to Jashinism just to mess with Hazō. She'd go all out by making cultist garb and being cult-sisters with Yuno.

Ami is pragmatic, I could see her thinking that since she's fine with murdering people anyways, she might as well get divine favor out of it.
 
IIRC, when Ami heard Hazou was a Jashinist, she scorned him for taking an easy path to power that made him a subordinate to a God's will.

I'm no @faflec though, so I may be wrong.
 
Unironically, I would be okay with not FOOMing for a while if it meant we could knock out a very large amount of seals in a very short amount of time.
Note: I am not rejecting this out of hand, especially as 1) we can't afford to dawdle any longer on Necromancy 2) with the new Stagnancy mechanics, this is a good moment to pause FOOM and reevaluate our options
Still, a few weeks is a long time. Total isolation is not a good idea, I believe. We may want to have daily check-ins during our breaks or something, just to make sure nothing catastrophic is unfolding.

Hidan would make for a better Uncle than Snek Uncle.

Also I have a feeling Ami might convert to Jashinism just to mess with Hazō. She'd go all out by making cultist garb and being cult-sisters with Yuno.

Ami is pragmatic, I could see her thinking that since she's fine with murdering people anyways, she might as well get divine favor out of it.
...she would presumably try to convert all of KEI with her. Damn. I like this. The Hagoromo would foam at the mouth so much they'd drown on it, too. Perfect assassination plan!
 
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