Remove ads

Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Reader mode
Important questions for the Conclave plan:

Who ties the Bonds of Civilization?

How many points are necessary for the pole to be the appropriate punishment?

(presumably Hazou doesn't know these but they can be answered by Kei; a lack of answers to these questions will likely lead to a poor/overly/underly-specified plan.)
 
[x] Noburi Training Plan: Surging Seas to 10
Surging Seas 9 -> 10 (-5 general XP)

2 General XP Remaining
 
Last edited:
Sir Stompy said:
Does Noburi need an extra 10 for the 50?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Not for the 50-slot, no. But after Medknow 50, our plan was to work towards getting Mednin 40, which is what Noburi needs the additional 10-stat for.

Surging Seas is a solid jutsu (honestly, it could be raised as high as 30, imo) and a good choice, and not only because it's a halfcost pyramid filler.
 
RandomOTP said:
our plan was to work towards getting Mednin 40,
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

This really shouldn't be the plan moving forward. It made sense when he potentially had a potential apprenticeship with Tsunade. Add in Akane's death and we can't really afford to keep on the bench. We should raise physique to potentially get sage mode after that should get back to pushing up his core combat stats
 
eaglejarl said:
"Okay, last thing on the subject: Canvass said that the foods and spices from a given nation can influence how a person smells. Find me samples of foods and spices representative of as many other nations as possible. It's a thin hope but it's worth checking."

Gaku blinked. "...Yes sir," he said. The normally unflappable and self-confident chancellor seemed remarkably flapped and unconfident.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

squints suspiciously at Gaku
 
Might as well post this in case.
[X] Action Plan: Money Doesn't Grow On Trees (It Grows On Granite)
Word Count: 232
  • Sanity-check with Mari/Kei.
  • Ino
    • Plan a private date.
      • Be there for her. Let her lead.
    • Would she be a sounding board for a clan head issue?
      • Explain Asuma's Hagoromo suggestions.
      • Will Hagoromo ever leave Goketsu alone?
        • They'll always have plausible deniability.
        • Would it matter if Goketsu de-escalated?
      • How can Hazo break the cycle?
      • Discuss Ruka, reconciliation.
      • OOC: the intention of this segment is to shift Hazo's characterisation away from hatred of the Hagoromo and towards the realization that the cycle of hate is unproductive and stupid.
    • Mirror - shell around reflective metal, jeweled handle made of corundum-mica (name it Inoite), all materials condensed/toughened.
  • Shino:
    • Prepare prop lenses using high-quality quartz.
    • Previously, we talked about a telescope deal to improve Leaf; are you still interested?
      • Show him our prop lenses.
      • Discuss how they may be used to produce better telescopes.
      • Could we make bigger, stationary telescopes for very long-distance viewing?
    • We're also interested in meeting with Hinata. Could you help facilitate it?
  • Hinata:
    • We've come across several uncut gemstones, and hope to have them cut before selling.
    • We understand that the Hyuga has connections to luxury craftsmen, and would know where to cut them.
    • CCnJ (if appropriate): We respect you and think you're a good person. We want to see you prosper. We genuinely want to collaborate on this deal for mutual advantage.
  • Other:
    • Prep for Sealing exam.
 
Last edited:
faflec said:
Might as well post this in case.
[X] Action Plan: Money Doesn't Grow On Trees (It Grows On Granite)
Word Count: 281
  • Sanity-check with Mari/Kei.
  • Ino
    • Plan a private date.
      • Be there for her. Let her lead.
    • Would she be a sounding board for a clan head issue?
      • Explain Asuma's Hagoromo suggestions.
      • Will Hagoromo ever leave Goketsu alone?
        • They'll always have plausible deniability.
        • Would it matter if Goketsu de-escalated?
      • How can Hazo break the cycle?
      • Discuss Ruka, reconciliation.
      • OOC: the intention of this segment is to shift Hazo's characterisation away from hatred of the Hagoromo and towards the realization that the cycle of hate is unproductive and stupid.
    • Corundum mirror - shell around reflective metal, jeweled handle, all materials condensed/toughened.
  • Shino:
    • Prepare prop lenses using high-quality quartz.
    • Previously, we talked about a telescope deal to improve Leaf; are you still interested?
      • Show him our prop lenses.
      • Discuss how they may be used to produce better telescopes.
      • Could we make bigger, stationary telescopes for very long-distance viewing?
    • We're also interested in meeting with Hinata. Could you help facilitate it?
  • Hinata:
    • We've come across several uncut gemstones, and hope to have them cut before selling.
    • We understand that the Hyuga has connections to luxury craftsmen, and would know where to cut them.
    • CCnJ (if appropriate): We admire you and think you're a good person. We want to see your prosper. We genuinely want to collaborate on this deal.
  • Other:
    • Sealing:
      • Continue Minato's Seals (no prep, reroll -9, 12 calligraphy if chunin seal or lower).
      • A SC researches Directional Explosives (no prep, reroll -9, -12 calligraphy)
        • Once complete, do 1 day prep on Rocket Boots, if chunin seal or lower use same standards as DE, if jonin proceed with full prep.
    • Gaku: Get Canvass herbs/spices, compare with Akane's attackers' smell.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We already tasked Gaku with getting Canvass spices
The proposal for naming a stone(the pearly Corundum+mica) after Ino is super cute, and we should do this, and use it for the mirror.

EDIT: what, specificaly does Hazo admire about Hinata, besides being open-minded relative to her upbringing? (which is pretty backhanded/insulting to her family, who she likes)
This feels like something that she might ask, and Hazo might foot-in-mouth, unless we specify something else we admire about her.
 
Last edited:
faflec said:
Other:
  • Sealing:
    • Continue Minato's Seals (no prep, reroll -9, 12 calligraphy if chunin seal or lower).
    • A SC researches Directional Explosives (no prep, reroll -9, -12 calligraphy)
      • Once complete, do 1 day prep on Rocket Boots, if chunin seal or lower use same standards as DE, if jonin proceed with full prep
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We probably shouldn't be working on this if the test for spec jounin is in 2 days. I would suggest you cut it out and have Hazou focus on that
 
Cariyaga said:
Important questions for the Conclave plan:

Who ties the Bonds of Civilization?

How many points are necessary for the pole to be the appropriate punishment?

(presumably Hazou doesn't know these but they can be answered by Kei; a lack of answers to these questions will likely lead to a poor/overly/underly-specified plan.)
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Also, forgot to ping the QMs with this. @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped
 
faflec said:
Might as well post this in case.
[X] Action Plan: Money Doesn't Grow On Trees (It Grows On Granite)
Word Count: 281
  • Sanity-check with Mari/Kei.
  • Ino
    • Plan a private date.
      • Be there for her. Let her lead.
    • Would she be a sounding board for a clan head issue?
      • Explain Asuma's Hagoromo suggestions.
      • Will Hagoromo ever leave Goketsu alone?
        • They'll always have plausible deniability.
        • Would it matter if Goketsu de-escalated?
      • How can Hazo break the cycle?
      • Discuss Ruka, reconciliation.
      • OOC: the intention of this segment is to shift Hazo's characterisation away from hatred of the Hagoromo and towards the realization that the cycle of hate is unproductive and stupid.
    • Corundum mirror - shell around reflective metal, jeweled handle, all materials condensed/toughened.
  • Shino:
    • Prepare prop lenses using high-quality quartz.
    • Previously, we talked about a telescope deal to improve Leaf; are you still interested?
      • Show him our prop lenses.
      • Discuss how they may be used to produce better telescopes.
      • Could we make bigger, stationary telescopes for very long-distance viewing?
    • We're also interested in meeting with Hinata. Could you help facilitate it?
  • Hinata:
    • We've come across several uncut gemstones, and hope to have them cut before selling.
    • We understand that the Hyuga has connections to luxury craftsmen, and would know where to cut them.
    • CCnJ (if appropriate): We admire you and think you're a good person. We want to see your prosper. We genuinely want to collaborate on this deal.
  • Other:
    • Sealing:
      • Continue Minato's Seals (no prep, reroll -9, 12 calligraphy if chunin seal or lower).
      • A SC researches Directional Explosives (no prep, reroll -9, -12 calligraphy)
        • Once complete, do 1 day prep on Rocket Boots, if chunin seal or lower use same standards as DE, if jonin proceed with full prep.
    • Gaku: Get Canvass herbs/spices, compare with Akane's attackers' smell.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Why would Hazou admire Hinata? Is it because she's relatively forward thinking compared to the baseline Hyuga? Has she moved the Hyuga forward?
That's fine if so, just wanted to make sure we have a reason to say that and it's not empty flattery or anything.

For Ino, has Hazou already grieved with her over Akane? I think there was a scene like that, just wanted to double-check (ex. so that it doesn't come across as ignoring an elephant in the room).
 
[Χ][Conclave] Just say some shit
"I've had sandals harder to slip than that, is this what a Pangolin calls bondage? I'd guess you merely blood thirsty maniacs, justifying yourselves with faux crime, but perhaps the Pangolin who bound Confute is an idiot. Either way, this is a farce, however you are so keen to show your civilized nature through your brutality, aren't you? Go ahead, spill innocent slave blood while your 'warriors' fail to do their duties, show us your civility."

(this won't work, don't vote for this)
(predictable extra backfiring, Condors placed in extra heavy bondage to satiate our crazed perceived need to further oppress the Condors)
 
ok not suuuuuuper satisfied with this but just putting this out here for now, suggestions welcome rah rah. Important (and [un]fortunate) thing to note: we don't ACTUALLY need to save the Condor's life, we only need to show the other clans that we really tried so we can win them over again.

[x] [Conclave] One Day We Shall Have Our Honor Duel
Word Count: 287
  • General approach
    • Communicate ideas with Kei/Noburi in handsign
    • Lean on Kei's authority as Pangolin Summoner to justify our narrative
    • Speak with little room for Pangolins to interject, trio maintains control of narrative
    • Leave provocative comments to Hazou, Noburi would just piss off Toads. Kei can remain impartial, up to her.
    • Where appropriate, if trio signs consensus agreement, have trio try to rope the crowd into supporting them.
    • Should 'Oathbreaker' arguments occur, rebuttal by reminding them they told Hazou they were defending themselves from Condors, but their behavior isn't self defense.
  • Confrontation
    • Audibly ask Kei about Bonds of Civilization.
      • They aren't cut or damaged. Pangolins assert that Condors are weak, so "obviously" the Condor couldn't have escaped on their own.
        • The question is, did that Pangolin fail to tie them up because of malice or incompetence? (Speculate between each other.)
          • This execution is clearly attempting to cover up poor Pangolin discipline.
    • Pangolins declared responsibility for Condors. Hazou was the attacked party. Therefore, Hazou was endangered by Pangolins due to poor discipline/malice, and they owe him.
      • Executing Condors doesn't repay him. As the wronged party he demands compensation by claiming ownership of the Condor's life. Pangolins see vermin, Hazou sees brave soldiers ready to fight for their world. Hornets understood the value of every life when we slayed the Dragon.
    • If Pangolins won't budge, insult them and challenge the one who tied up the Condor to a duel for the Condor's life.
  • Duel
    • Flaunt seals, win quickly and efficiently.
      • Don't use MARS
      • Activate Banshee Slayers before dueling
      • Manually activate earbuster
      • Attack with goo bombs.
      • Manually activate additional debuffs as needed.
  • Condor
    • As new "lord", send them to Arachnid in preparation for Conclave facing the Dragons. Rest in Dog on the way.
 
Last edited:
Shrooms said:
ok not suuuuuuper satisfied with this but just putting this out here for now, suggestions welcome rah rah. Important (and [un]fortunate) thing to note: we don't ACTUALLY need to save the Condor's life, we only need to show the other clans that we really tried so we can win them over again.

[x] [Conclave] One Day We Shall Have Our Honor Duel
Word Count: 279

  • General approach
    • Communicate ideas with Kei/Noburi in handsign
    • Lean on Kei's authority as Pangolin Summoner to justify our narrative
    • Speak with little room for interjection, have trio maintain control of the narrative
    • Leave politically charged comments to Hazou, as Noburi would just piss off Toads. He can still ask questions. Kei can remain impartial, up to her.
  • Audibly ask Kei what the Bonds of Civilization signify
    • Note that the Pangolins don't wear the Bonds. Are the Condors more civilized than them?
    • The Pangolins have repeatedly asserted that the Condors are weak and love the guidance that the Pangolins have brought them, so obviously the Condor could not have broken free, nor would they choose to. This is why Hazou had no reason to think he was even being attacked, so punishing them for 'fighting' seems absurd. Hazou was never in danger and the Condor didn't fight anyone, unless you count someone else tackling them.
    • Assert that the Bonds were tied poorly and came loose.
      • What does that signify about the civilization? It seems like whoever did the tying would be far more embarrassing to that civilization than a Condor whose tie slipped off their leg.
      • Perhaps they should instead punish the one who tied the knot with the same penalty, if they don't care about upholding their civilization.
    • Determine who tied up the Condor and imply they weaken their civilization more than any Condor who lost their bonds.
      • Goad them into dueling Hazou to prove their strength, winning the Condor's life if Hazou wins.
  • Duel
    • Flaunt seals, win quickly and efficiently.
      • Don't use MARS, but manually activate flash seals and pangolin pepper macerators, then throw a goo bomb.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I note that our combat stats are lagging, and demonstrating that to the assembled clans won't be great for our rep. Are you sure that we can win this? If not, can you make goading them into an honor duel a last resort?

The plan calls for using pangolin peppers. on pangolins. I rather suspect the pangolis may have higher tolerance to pangolin peppers than humans. I have no idea how much more, but might not want to risk it.

While I would like you to speak to both these points, they are ultimately quibbles, and I like this plan a lot. Thank you for putting it together.

[x] [Conclave] One Day We Shall Have Our Honor Duel


-----
EDIT: Defer to Kei as the senior Pangoli representative present? This gives us easy reason to ignore the shit out of the actual pangolin if he tries to object, or control the narrative, or interrupt in any way.
This lets us list our objections at a Pangolin rep(Kei), with her as a co-operative audience, then let her back off on the Pangolin's behalf. If/when the pangolin objects, he's arguably doing so against his superior, and Kei can intimidate/duel him. I have the impression that her combat stats are better than ours right now, and it seems like the whole affair has less political risk.

(IIRC Kei is answerable only to the Pangolin Boss.)
 
Last edited:
eaglejarl said:
"In that case, sir, it's a delight to see you. Especially to see you without manacles or an ANBU escort.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
How do we know ANBU aren't here? They're sneaky
eaglejarl said:
"Thank you, Gaku. I have no idea what I would do without you."

"I believe you would fetch your own tea, sir."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Well, lucky he's here. Can you imagine?
eaglejarl said:
He leaned back in his chair and put his feet up on the desk, a sacrilege that he was allowed now that he was the Clan Head and no one could tell him not to.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
This always reminds me of when Jiradad did it in the Third's presence and was told not to. He taught Hazō the most important things (where feet comfy)
eaglejarl said:
Except he'll actually walk me through the meanings and implications because I'm a grown man getting a fast course in politics instead of a little kid getting bed time stories that will inform the future.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Wait shouldn't that- isn't the reverse- is he- yeah fine okay yeah.
eaglejarl said:
Jutsu use comparatively enormous amount of chakra. Seals use basically none.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Wouldn't it be fun if the Great Seal were a Great Jutsu?
eaglejarl said:
Asuma frowned, his eyes thunderous. "Hazō, are you implying that Orochimaru is somehow—" He failed to hold the straight face and cracked up.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Oh he's bad :D
eaglejarl said:
The Kotsuzui can make blood clones and no one else can
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
OROCHIMARU: What, the Kotzui? You say that like that's hard.
eaglejarl said:
Canvass said that the foods and spices from a given nation can influence how a person smells. Find me samples of foods and spices representative of as many other nations as possible. It's a thin hope but it's worth checking.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Yes yes yes yes yes
eaglejarl said:
Gaku blinked. "...Yes sir," he said. The normally unflappable and self-confident chancellor seemed remarkably flapped and unconfident.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I KNEW IT HE'S A ROCK SPY AAAIIIIIIIEEEEE
eaglejarl said:
Vote time! What to do now?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
[JK] succumb to sudden heart failure, reroll as a genin from Bear (wait, no, don't go to Bear) a genin from Demon.
 
eaglejarl said:
"Hmph. Anyway, I told you before that he offered me tutoring in politics and Clan Head stuff. I asked what exactly he had in mind and I'm honestly not sure how I feel about the answer."

"More or less than you had hoped, sir?"

"I have no earthly idea, if I'm being completely open about it. Anyway, he's thinking that we have tea two or three times a week, a couple hours each session. I ask whatever questions about politics I have that don't violate security, he answers them, and then he tells me the stories that his father used to teach him the political and leadership game. Except he'll actually walk me through the meanings and implications because I'm a grown man getting a fast course in politics instead of a little kid getting bed time stories that will inform the future."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Apprenticeship bonus XP? o_O
 
Might it be worth upping Calligraphy before our sealing exam? He has 40eff43 right now, and 80xp (so presumably we'll get enough xp tomorrow-IC to buy two more levels instead of one).
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top