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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Velorien said:
Could you find this when you can, please? It may or may not end up getting retconned, based on other things we've established about Bloodline Limits.
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Can't find the direct quote but I know that we've been assuming that VD is a Water Release technique because we've been doing 1/2 cost for VD and none of the GMs commented on it. I think.
 
faflec said:
Can't find the direct quote
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Pretty sure there isn't one. I didn't find anything, and I've gotten fairly good with digging out old info out of the thread. Nor do I recall that ever being spelled out.

The only thing that confirms VD as water jutsu is lack of opposition to training plans that had it at half cost.
 
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[X] Training Plan Hazou: Nope
[X] Training Plan Noburi: Nope
[X] Training Plan Akane: Nope
[X] Training Plan Keiko: Nope
 
Muer'ci said:
Pretty sure there isn't one. I didn't find anything, and I've gotten fairly good with digging out old info out of the thread. Nor do I recall that ever being spelled out.

The only thing that confirms VD as water jutsu is lack of opposition to training plans that had it at half cost.
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This was a peculiar fluke of Noburi's anatomy, which has vanished as mysteriously as it arrived. Hereafter VD, like other Bloodline Limits, will not benefit from cost reductions that affect conventional ninjutsu.

Also, voting is closed. Lore update ahoy.

I haven't started writing yet, so feel free to throw requests at me (though I don't guarantee anything).
 
Lore Update winning means that we got extra planning time on what to do but we won't really get new information about the world state unless we ask specific questions that Hazou already knows the answer to.

Meaning, we should keep working on a solution how to get access to that scroll. There's no reason to postpone it after the lore update.

Here are the proposed plans so far:

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[] Proto-Plan: Genin's Very First Break-in
Sneak into Joutaro's room and search it for suspicious things!

Goals:
  1. Don't get caught
  2. Find and identify the target "scroll"
  3. Search Joutaro's room for anything suspicious
Method:
  1. Make sure Joutaro is preoccupied
    • Observe when Joutaro goes to enjoy the resort facilities for an extended period of time
    • Keep an eye on him indirectly
      1. Tell Honami to instruct one of the employees to come and inform her when Joutaro starts making moves return to his room
      2. Have Noburi watch the route the employee has to take to inform Honami, and inform the search team when their time is up
  2. Make sure Joutaro's room only has one person in it for Mari to genjutsu
    • Mari and Hazou enter the room under a plausible pretense (changing the air fresheners, stock up on the complimentary fruits...)
    • Hazou diverts the targets attention while Mari slaps them with a genjutsu that will keep them from noticing that the room is being searched(without tipping of that they have been genjutsued afterwards)
  3. Get Akane and Keiko into the room
    • Cooperate with Honami to have them enter the premises
      • Possible ideas: Deliverers under henge, or slipping through by Stealth
  4. Search the room carefully
    • Have Hazou stand in guard and re-direct anyone coming close to the rooms, swap him with Keiko when Sealcraft or Hazou bloodline is needed
    • Observe the placement of everything carefully before touching it (Use Hazou's bloodline?)
    • Search for Traps, Sealwork and everything suspicious
    • Have Akane disarm and rearm the traps if it seems possible
    • Have Keiko open and move things with Zephyr's Reach from a safe distance (Or should we add summoning Pandaa to also poke things?)
  5. Exit WITHOUT taking the target scroll with you
    • Observe the scroll carefully so we can create a believable replicate
    • Don't open the scroll in case of a booby trap, leave that for when actually come back and steal it

Contingencies:
  1. Everyone entering the premises must have a decent henge and use head scarfs in Wind style under the henge's for extra identity protection
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Briefvoice said:
[X] Action Plan: Search the Room

Goals:
  1. Don't get caught
  2. Find the information we're looking for
  3. Search Joutaro's room for anything else useful
Method:
  1. Make sure Joutaro is preoccupied
    • Observe when Joutaro goes to enjoy the resort facilities for an extended period of time
    • Have Noburi keep an eye on him directly
      1. If he looks like he's about ready to start getting out, Noburi to get out faster like he needs to take a shit
      2. Noburi to signal us with a loud coughing fit
  2. Make sure Joutaro's room only has one person (preferably none) in it for Mari to genjutsu
    • Mari and Hazou enter the room under a plausible pretense (changing the air fresheners, stock up on the complimentary fruits...)
    • Hazou diverts the targets attention while Mari slaps them with a genjutsu that will keep them from noticing that the room is being searched(without tipping of that they have been genjutsued afterwards)
  3. Get Akane and Keiko into the room
    • Cooperate with Honami to have them enter the premises (leave this up to the QMs)
  4. Search the room carefully
    • Have Hazou stand in guard and re-direct (or deal with if unavoidable) anyone coming close to the rooms, swap him with Keiko when Sealcraft or Hazou bloodline is needed
    • Observe the placement of everything carefully before touching it
    • Search for Traps, Sealwork and everything suspicious
    • Have Akane disarm and rearm the traps if it seems possible
  5. Make a decision about what to do based on what we find (either stop scene here and ask for decisions, or QMs make a call based on our contingency discussions)
    • If we're pretty sure we have the information and we're leaving no trace, chance coming back to slip in a duplicate
    • If we set off some of the traps, grab the scroll and send an evac signal to everyone

Contingencies:
  1. Play it by ear.
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Twofold said:
[] Proto-Plan: Dodge the Dragon, Fight the Kobolds Instead!

Gather information on Joutaro's companions. Start from the indirect options and escalate as necessary.

Goals:
  1. Don't let Joutaro or his companions find out that we are stalking them
  2. Find out if Joutaro's companions are ninjas
  3. Check if they are carrying the target "scroll"
  4. Find general information about Joutaro's companions
Method:
  1. Ask Honami for all the information he has about Joutaro's companions (Did I miss anything?)
    • Who do they claim to be?
    • Where do they spend their time?
    • Do they share a room with Joutaro or what?
    • What do they do all day?
    • How do they act around each other?
    • Do they interact with anyone outside their group?
  2. Try to replicate the same trick used to check Joutaro's chakra
    • I would be very surprised if this actually worked
  3. Try and get close enough to interact with the companions (Who should do what?)
    • If they participate in any activities, join them
    • If they just stay in their room, henge into staff and visit them under a good excuse (Air fresheners AND complementary fruit! Who could say no?)
    • Observe how they interact with us and each other, is there anything suspicious about them?
  4. If we can isolate one of the companions, use genjutsu to disable and then search them (Any ideas how to do the isolation? I feel stupid just relying on chance)
    • Check their pockets for suspicious things
    • Check their skin for weird tattoos
    • If VD doesn't mess with genjutsu, use it to check their chakra levels
Contingencies:
  1. When attempting to interact with Joutaro's companions, make sure Joutaro himself is preoccupied
    • Observe when Joutaro goes to enjoy the resort facilities for an extended period of time
      • If Mari is free (not doing genjutsu) use her for Joutaro-watch
      • If Mari not free, keep an eye on Joutaro indirectly
        1. Tell Honami to instruct one of the employees to come and inform her when Joutaro starts making moves return to his room
        2. Have a party member (not Kagome) watch the route the employee has to take to inform Honami, and notify the companion interaction task force that their time is up
  2. Wear Wind-style head scarfs to cover our faces under the henge
  3. If things turn fighty, run away and use lethal force (ie. Kagome's Trap Field Squishing Boom) only if absolutely necessary
  4. Limit Honami's aid to bare necessities, we want her to have plausible deniability
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So that's where we are currently in our planning.

The new info we have is that both of Joutaro's companions stay in the same suite as Joutaro and rarely leave. Meaning we need to deal with them whether we want to burglarize the room or just gather information about them.

They rarely leave the room, meaning they must leave at some point. Identifying when and why that happens and seeing if we can abuse it should be on our agenda.
 
faflec said:
So. What happens if we pull the proverbial fire alarm?
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Any sort of general alarm will probably make Joutaro try join up with his companions. I can think of three scenarios where that doesn't happen.
  1. There's a enough chaos that Joutaro can't find his companions easily
  2. Joutaro gets held up by an additional diversion created by us
  3. Joutaro trusts his companions to protect the scroll flawlessly, and focuses on hunting down the cause of the alarm
1. is kinda hard to pull off without property damage, 2. is doable if we get creative and 3. would kinda imply that the companions are also jounin-dangerous.
 
Twofold said:
The new info we have is that both of Joutaro's companions stay in the same suite as Joutaro and rarely leave. Meaning we need to deal with them whether we want to burglarize the room or just gather information about them.

They rarely leave the room, meaning they must leave at some point. Identifying when and why that happens and seeing if we can abuse it should be on our agenda.
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Okay, I'm going to throw out an off-the-wall ideas.

1. This inn has a team of Hot Springs genin protecting it, right? Is there some way we can get them into a confrontation with Joutaro and his companions? This is supposed to be sort of a "neutral zone" for ninja, but they're still the local authority. If they come up and demand that Joutaro and his companions submit to questioning then even if he's able to smooth things over, they probably all get dragged out of their rooms for a while.

2. Get access to the room next to Joutaro's bedroom. Drill a hole in the wall in the middle of the night. Use Noburi's water-whip to chakra drain him in his sleep. Do the same with his companions on the other side. (Lace their dinners with a mild sedative that night to penalize Awareness rolls? I know there was a discussion about the difficulty in obtaining it, but still.)

I think we may have to give up on making a smooth switch. It's going to be hard enough to get access once, let alone twice. The best we could do is carry a collection of scrolls and hope that one of them looks close enough to the info to fool casual inspection for a little while, which would be entirely a matter of luck.
 
Briefvoice said:
Okay, I'm going to throw out an off-the-wall ideas.

1. This inn has a team of Hot Springs genin protecting it, right? Is there some way we can get them into a confrontation with Joutaro and his companions? This is supposed to be sort of a "neutral zone" for ninja, but they're still the local authority. If they come up and demand that Joutaro and his companions submit to questioning then even if he's able to smooth things over, they probably all get dragged out of their rooms for a while.

2. Get access to the room next to Joutaro's bedroom. Drill a hole in the wall in the middle of the night. Use Noburi's water-whip to chakra drain him in his sleep. Do the same with his companions on the other side. (Lace their dinners with a mild sedative that night to penalize Awareness rolls? I know there was a discussion about the difficulty in obtaining it, but still.)

I think we may have to give up on making a smooth switch. It's going to be hard enough to get access once, let alone twice. The best we could do is carry a collection of scrolls and hope that one of them looks close enough to the info to fool casual inspection for a little while, which would be entirely a matter of luck.
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Thank you for the ideas. However we don't want to do anything that would cause trouble for the establishment. This new ice deal seems far more valuable that the scroll mission.
 
fictionfan said:
Thank you for the ideas. However we don't want to do anything that would cause trouble for the establishment. This new ice deal seems far more valuable that the scroll mission.
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No one seems to have much love for completing the scroll mission. There's a part of me that wants to do it because we said we'd do it, as a matter of pride. (And don't tell me that missing-nin can't have pride; pride can keep you going when you have nothing else.)

I would like to ask Velorian/eaglejarl, how much are we getting paid for this? I know we're not tracking money, but is it A-rank mission money? S-rank mission money? Enough money that investing in a business is a serious possibility? There have been posters saying that we could earn more money playing dice... is that really true, or is the client sufficiently desperate to have been willing to shell out S-rank mission level funds?
 
Briefvoice said:
1. This inn has a team of Hot Springs genin protecting it, right? Is there some way we can get them into a confrontation with Joutaro and his companions? This is supposed to be sort of a "neutral zone" for ninja, but they're still the local authority. If they come up and demand that Joutaro and his companions submit to questioning then even if he's able to smooth things over, they probably all get dragged out of their rooms for a while.
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This is doable, not quite sure how firm the "no ninjacraft in Hot Springs" rule is but we could orchestrate a debacle that leads to Joutaro or a confrontation between him and one of the other ninja guests.

The Hot Springs ninja might also use that time to search their room which would limit our access to it Then again an official room search would work as a beautiful cover for us to do the same. Any inconsistencies in object placement etc. could be attributed to the Hot Springs ninja.

If Joutaro is revealed as a jounin-in-hiding, the Hot Springs ninja might have protocol to call in heavy hitters which would complicate things. Then again Joutaro is a jounin, he should be able to coerce a bunch of genin that the best course of action would be to look away and ignore him.

Naturally none of that works if Joutaro or one of his companions is a Hot Springs ninja, or at least he will be able to resolve the situation way faster.

Briefvoice said:
2. Get access to the room next to Joutaro's bedroom. Drill a hole in the wall in the middle of the night. Use Noburi's water-whip to chakra drain him in his sleep. Do the same with his companions on the other side. (Lace their dinners with a mild sedative that night to penalize Awareness rolls? I know there was a discussion about the difficulty in obtaining it, but still.)
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Very risky. Nobby would have to operate the whip blind and the draining takes a really long time. I'm not really sure what kind of security measures sleeping jounin take when they are expecting trouble but I have a feeling it wont be something quite that easy to overcome. Then again ninjas do seem rather vulnerable when they are not properly keyed up.
 
Twofold said:
This is doable, not quite sure how firm the "no ninjacraft in Hot Springs" rule is but we could orchestrate a debacle that leads to Joutaro or a confrontation between him and one of the other ninja guests.

The Hot Springs ninja might also use that time to search their room which would limit our access to it Then again an official room search would work as a beautiful cover for us to do the same. Any inconsistencies in object placement etc. could be attributed to the Hot Springs ninja.

If Joutaro is revealed as a jounin-in-hiding, the Hot Springs ninja might have protocol to call in heavy hitters which would complicate things. Then again Joutaro is a jounin, he should be able to coerce a bunch of genin that the best course of action would be to look away and ignore him.

Naturally none of that works if Joutaro or one of his companions is a Hot Springs ninja, or at least he will be able to resolve the situation way faster.



Very risky. Nobby would have to operate the whip blind and the draining takes a really long time. I'm not really sure what kind of security measures sleeping jounin take when they are expecting trouble but I have a feeling it wont be something quite that easy to overcome. Then again ninjas do seem rather vulnerable when they are not properly keyed up.
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We could ask Mari if she is above-average in perceptiveness for a jounin and use her as a test bed. We'd obviously warn her ahead of time that we'd be using her for an experiment, but we could try draining her as she's asleep to see if Noburi could handle stealthily draining another jounin.
 
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We could ask Mari if she is above-average in perceptiveness for a jounin and use her as a test bed. We'd obviously warn her ahead of time that we'd be using her for an experiment, but we could try draining her as she's asleep to see if Noburi could handle stealthily draining another jounin.
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I really like this idea.

Honestly, I see Nobby as a wonderful asset that can be played here. He's capable of silent, very natural looking kills, or simply crippling the combat effectiveness of another jounin in certain situations.
 
Briefvoice said:
No one seems to have much love for completing the scroll mission. There's a part of me that wants to do it because we said we'd do it, as a matter of pride. (And don't tell me that missing-nin can't have pride; pride can keep you going when you have nothing else.)

I would like to ask Velorian/eaglejarl, how much are we getting paid for this? I know we're not tracking money, but is it A-rank mission money? S-rank mission money? Enough money that investing in a business is a serious possibility? There have been posters saying that we could earn more money playing dice... is that really true, or is the client sufficiently desperate to have been willing to shell out S-rank mission level funds?
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The reason I am against the scroll mission is not just the risk, but because it is a standard lose-win ninja mission. Someone is stealing from someone else and we help them do that.

The ice mission is a win-win we help someone and that helps us. We have a net positive impact on the world. I think far too many ninja even missing nin are stuck in the traditional ninja mindset.
 
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Kiba said:
If we don't do this mission, does that mean we can't get more jobs?
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Nah. We got the mission anonymously from some sketchy dude.

Regarding Honami... does her dad smoke? I mean, there is a drug that we know has few bad side effects that we could suggest she spike his tobacco with... :p
 
Kiba said:
If we don't do this mission, does that mean we can't get more jobs?
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No I mean we got the Job from an anonymous sketchy dude what is he going to say "I hired those missing nin to steal scroll for me and they quit the mission half way". I think we are anonymous to him as well. Also it is not as if we have a reputation we have built up to risk at the moment.
 
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If that's the case, I don't see why we should give a damn. Honami seems far more valuable to us than some random anonymous dude doing jackassery ninja things.
 
Kiba said:
If that's the case, I don't see why we should give a damn. Honami seems far more valuable to us than some random anonymous dude doing jackassery ninja things.
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We are mostly doing this to get more experience in being sneaky little ninjas. I mean both experience points (which we have accrued nicely already) and practical knowledge on how ninja sleuthing works (wear bloody masks under your bloody henge all the bloody time).

Personally I'm okay if we just toss the scroll after we have managed to acquire it, the road is more important here than the destination. (Or if we don't like the suspicious looking guy we could just hand the scroll over to Jiraya as a "sorry we didn't call you!" -gift.)

EDIT: Also, the party could use a bit of a motivation boost in the form of a successful mission.
 
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