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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Jello_Raptor said:
[X] Action Plan : Invent White-out
  • Get white paint
  • Use white paint on enemy scroll after reading it
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Oooh! We could do our sealing work with white ink on white paper! It doesn't really matter for Iron Nerve whether Hazou can see the results or not. It would also drive anyone trying to analyze our seals insane. (EDIT: Possibly literally now that I think about it.)

...or maybe we could figure out how to make black paper? We should ask Kagome about this.
 
As an aside, I recently had an opportunity to see a collection of pangolin images that I thought would put us in the right mood for discussing Marked for Death:
 
Twofold said:
Oooh! We could do our sealing work with white ink on white paper! It doesn't really matter for Iron Nerve whether Hazou can see the results or not. It would also drive anyone trying to analyze our seals insane. (EDIT: Possibly literally now that I think about it.)

...or maybe we could figure out how to make black paper? We should ask Kagome about this.
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The one thing worth considering is that even if we don't need to see the writing to do it properly, environmental factors are still of import, so we'd need a controlled environment to do them in.

e: Or another seal that reveals white writing
 
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The easy way to do this is to have an ink that takes longer to dry than it takes to write the seal out. With light at the right angle, the wet ink will be easily visible but once it dries it'll blend in with the rest of the paper.
 
I feel like after this mission we need to take a 1-2 week break for Keiko to spend 100% of her time working on getting contracts.
 
Alternately, just soak the seal in normal black ink after making the seal.

Or, glue a blank sheet of paper over the completed seal.

None of these make our seals impossible to reverse engineer, but they'll make it harder. Especially on short notice.

I'm not willing to be bet that a bakugyan couldn't just see the seal even with all of this.
 
Twofold said:
Hard to prepare for that though. You could basically use anything from patterned cloth to elaborate jewelry as the medium, we would have to take a look at the message first, prepare a duplicate and then go back and plant it.

It might be more doable to mess up the message somehow after copying it down. Depending on how it works it might be plausible to make it pass a cursory inspection yet still be unreadable.
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Our client would rather have the physical message than a copy, perhaps lacking faith that we'd get everything out of it. (And you can see why; aren't we talking invisible inks right now?)

I'm willing to go for the bonus of "steal without the messenger knowing what happened", but I see no reason to try to get uber-clever with replacing a corrupted message. It's extra work/risk that nobody is paying for.
 
Briefvoice said:
Our client would rather have the physical message than a copy, perhaps lacking faith that we'd get everything out of it. (And you can see why; aren't we talking invisible inks right now?)

I'm willing to go for the bonus of "steal without the messenger knowing what happened", but I see no reason to try to get uber-clever with replacing a corrupted message. It's extra work/risk that nobody is paying for.
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If you steal it but leave nothing in its place, the messenger will know what happened. That's okay with the client but not preferred.
 
Briefvoice said:
Our client would rather have the physical message than a copy, perhaps lacking faith that we'd get everything out of it. (And you can see why; aren't we talking invisible inks right now?)

I'm willing to go for the bonus of "steal without the messenger knowing what happened", but I see no reason to try to get uber-clever with replacing a corrupted message. It's extra work/risk that nobody is paying for.
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I'm not sure what scale of money we're talking, but unless it's an excessive amount, I'm not sure we care. I mean, we're ninja. Money is no real object to us. Unless our goal is to get some chakra-conductive wire custom made for seal work, because I'm 90% sure that'd require interfacing with a ninja of some sort.

...On the other hand, I still would rather do things perfectly this mission as a point of pride, and if Hazou or Kagome can't manage to replicate a scroll's appearance I'll eat my nonexistent hat.

While we're still waiting for the update, I'd like to discuss how to approach other missing nin. If we're to make our own spy network, starting with a demilitarized zone would seem like the best way to go about it. Folks would be slightly more relaxed about being approached here. I hope, anyway.

Relatedly, I think Noburi really needs to get to work on his sensory technique and vampiric dew through mist. We've really put that off for quite a while. Also, @eaglejarl @Velorien is it possible for him to drain fractional chakra? For instance, half of the one civilians have, so he doesn't risk killing them but could make them pass out or otherwise grow lethargic? Another question: On the scale of Medical Ninjutsu to Sealing, how dangerous is technique hacking to perform at low-ish levels? I'd assume somewhere in between; do either of the jounin of our party have any idea?
 
Jello_Raptor said:
Alternately, just soak the seal in normal black ink after making the seal.

Or, glue a blank sheet of paper over the completed seal.
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I suspect soaking a seal in ink would ruin it, and I worry getting glue over the seal would be bad, too. More testing is called for. I wonder if Kagome has any anecdotes about seal concealment.

eaglejarl said:
So, do you guys (or Akane) have the "betrays allies" attribute?
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Well, she did betray Liberator's cause, sorta. And we were never allies with him, but we kinda betrayed our client that one time. To someone who knows our history, we probably don't look particularly trustworthy.
 
eaglejarl said:
So, do you guys (or Akane) have the "betrays allies" attribute?
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Certainly not. Hazou has betrayed measly three different ninja villages and Akane has only betrayed one two. (EDIT: Sorry, I forgot Konoha for a moment)

After we make our report to J, both get +1 to their betrayal count...one way or the other.

EDIT: I mean really, this is a Tuesday afternoon for someone like Kabuto.
 
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Doubling down; I like your style(s).

Really, though, we do need to build up trust. If we can make a name for ourselves in a relatively anonymous fashion... Maybe we can develop a seal-based calling card so that people know it's us? A holographic projection or something?
 
As far as developing merchant contacts goes, following an unguarded caravan and "passing through" in time to save them from bandits, etc. might be a good way to make allies. Don't expect monetary rewards, just trying to get semi-loyal contacts in that case.

For missing nin allies, we could offer them a storage seal or two as a sign of goodwill, maybe. Not as destructive as explosive seals, but still useful to them. Though that would be giving away that we have sealworkers, so maybe that's not such a good idea after all.

In my experience with shadowrun, the best way to make loyal contacts is to take missions, save people, and build a working relationship with them elsewise. Furthermore, you need to be willing to share to a certain extent; offer training, make yourself useful to them beyond the nature of your initial relationship. The more useful you are to them, and the more you've done without expecting a reward, the more loyalty they tend to feel toward you.
 
Cariyaga said:
In my experience with shadowrun, the best way to make loyal contacts is to take missions, save people, and build a working relationship with them elsewise. Furthermore, you need to be willing to share to a certain extent; offer training, make yourself useful to them beyond the nature of your initial relationship. The more useful you are to them, and the more you've done without expecting a reward, the more loyalty they tend to feel toward you.
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That bakery idea is looking more and more attractive. Who would ever say no to pies? Set up in DMZ, [help] enforce neutrality, give others a place to hang out and relax. We can make a chain in future, with our informants in charge, and out good friends getting services cheaper/free. Maybe make it an inn of sorts, offer room as well as food?

"Poor Man's Pies"

/we serve everyone
 
Muer'ci said:
That bakery idea is looking more and more attractive. Who would ever say no to pies? Set up in DMZ, [help] enforce neutrality, give others a place to hang out and relax. We can make a chain in future, with our informants in charge, and out good friends getting services cheaper/free. Maybe make it an inn of sorts, offer room as well as food?

"Poor Man's Pies"

/we serve everyone
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Make a seal to produce perfect pies.

Jokes aside, I do like that idea. The existence of Hot Springs as a DMZ makes our plans both easier and harder, in a way. It at least lets us know that a DMZ is possible for the elemental nations, though. Maybe we should look into the history of it and see if we can replicate for Village Hidden in the Heavens?

e: Ooh, here's an idea. Offer discounts for groups of multiple nations! Nobody can resist discounts.

e2: Working on an omake for this.
 
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