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There is an extraordinarily simple way to make it so Hazou no longer needs to sleep, without Orochimaru's assistance.I'm not above begging! Pleeeease vote for my plan? I want Hazou to have what I cannot: No need for sleep.![]()
There is an extraordinarily simple way to make it so Hazou no longer needs to sleep, without Orochimaru's assistance.I'm not above begging! Pleeeease vote for my plan? I want Hazou to have what I cannot: No need for sleep.![]()
I've very slightly updated my plan to include offscreen seal research.[X] Yet Another Set of Negotiating Parameters
Word count: 200-ish.
- Counteroffer:
- Orochimaru gets exclusive access to the Dragon parts for two weeks each. He only holds one at a time.
- The others may be non-destructively investigated by other parties until the deal concludes.
- Orochimaru will provide five packets of notes/information of equivalent value to those currently offered (per part) if any parts are damaged during his investigations. Equivalency to be determined by Tower-appointed arbiter. The remnants will be returned and the deal will be terminated.
- If any parts are destroyed during Orochimaru's investigations, as above, but ten packets.
- Happy to negotiate destructive/damaging research as it comes up; however, we feel strongly that all of Leaf's researchers should have an opportunity to investigate the parts before they're damaged or destroyed.
- The Goketsu will swap parts upon request with a 24 hour grace period.
- Flexible on how many parts are in his possession at once in exchange for useful jutsu (e.g. reduction of need for sleep), consultation on the Great Seal, Snake inclusion in the Summoning Network (if not already included), help setting up a 7th path chakra farm for Noburi to drain, and any information about Pain's ritual which may be pertinent to the Great Seal/3D sealing.
- Offscreen:
- Research ARS, following SOP (prep days, etc.)
Ask Kumokugo if the Dragons have changed their behavior since their sibling diedI'm online for the next two hours (voting closes!) if folks have suggestions.
Kinda rude, don't you think? I chose the votes I chose because I think they're most likely to lead to outcomes I consider favourable, not because I hate the abstract concept of doing things.I can't believe a one line plan that does essentially nothing is tied. Y'all really hate having agency lol
I don't want to give him all the parts at once which AFAIK is what the current deal is
Questionable how many more such packets Oro has given the XP ratios of Jiraiya's entire sealing legacy, and Oro's packets. I guess it's possible that Oro notes just gives much more XP than Jiraiya's even if they have equivalent knowledge on the topic.I'd just like to note that this is functionally equivalent to 'You can do these actions freely if you pay us this much more', and that the currency we cite is something of nigh-trivial value to him. This may be intentional in a 'I don't mind losing the dragon parts if we get that much Sealing XP in exchange' sense, but if it's meant to serve as deterrent I don't think it would really serve its job very well.
I don't want to give him all the parts at once which AFAIK is what the current deal is
An additional 2000 Sealing XP takes us from 69 effective Sealing to 85. That's a huge fucking deal. Yeah I'd sell a scale for 2000 XPQuestionable how many more such packets Oro has given the XP ratios of Jiraiya's entire sealing legacy, and Oro's packets. I guess it's possible that Oro notes just gives much more XP than Jiraiya's even if they have equivalent knowledge on the topic.
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I'm also worried that setting the price at 10 packets will give an upper bound in future negotiations with Oro on how much we can sell the parts for. "Oh, I know that you only valued the part at 10 packets. So why would I bother offering more?"
Y'all, the current deal is for Oro to get all of the parts at once. We will have no leverage to make him give them back if he has all of them at the same time. Please switch to a plan that does not accept the current terms of the deal, if you would like for us to keep the Dragon parts, it is my humble expectation that we will simply lose them otherwise
Sorry if my plan sucks. Did not intend to steal the oxygen of other take the deal plans.I can't believe a one line plan that does essentially nothing is tied. Y'all really hate having agency lol
Don't feel bad for voting for what you want (assuming it isn't something ACTUALLY evil/fucked up). Other players shouldn't shame you for it eitherSorry if my plan sucks. Did not intend to steal the oxygen of other take the deal plans.
Do not feel bad! You are driving participation in the quest and everyone is a big fan of that. We all can and will disagree, but we're fundamentally here to enjoy ourselves and increased participation is more fun.Sorry if my plan sucks. Did not intend to steal the oxygen of other take the deal plans.
Engagement is engagement, even if its hectic. Hakuna matata.Sorry if my plan sucks. Did not intend to steal the oxygen of other take the deal plans.
Can edit the plan to specify doling the parts out one by one. My impression from the chapter was that it was up to us when to return the parts from the 7th path.Don't feel bad for voting for what you want (assuming it isn't something ACTUALLY evil/fucked up). Other players shouldn't shame you for it either
That said, I would prefer if you didn't vote to accept the current terms....
Y'all, the current deal is for Oro to get all of the parts at once. We will have no leverage to make him give them back if he has all of them at the same time. Please switch to a plan that does not accept the current terms of the deal, if you would like for us to keep the Dragon parts, it is my humble expectation that we will simply lose them otherwise
There's nothing in the current deal saying we have to bring those items back in the next two weeks or at the same time. We could trickle them out to make sure the Dragonbits are returned safely."Fine. Two weeks. I'll want the same for the rest of the items when you bring them back." He turned back to the box.
Its generally a bad idea to edit plans substantially when its close to deadline.Can edit the plan to specify doling the parts out one by one. My impression from the chapter was that it was up to us when to return the parts from the 7th path.
Nahh man you're good. I just like advancing goals and stuff and a one line plan is so out of the norm ya know.Sorry if my plan sucks. Did not intend to steal the oxygen of other take the deal plans.
Also do not want to let my self doubt come across as insulting to people who voted for my plan.Do not feel bad! You are driving participation in the quest and everyone is a big fan of that. We all can and will disagree, but we're fundamentally here to enjoy ourselves and increased participation is more fun.
Bit concerning that Oro's first thought was to negotiate a rental, not a sale. And that he didn't press on negotiating a sale after the rental is over. Is buying the parts not that much more valuable to Oro than a rental?"Call it a rental," he said. "They'll be at my lab for the next month. After that, you can call them back whenever and...give them to the hospital, or hang them on your wall, or whatever else you like."
How long does it take when FOOMing to get 2000XP?An additional 2000 Sealing XP takes us from 69 effective Sealing to 85. That's a huge fucking deal. Yeah I'd sell a scale for 2000 XP
EDIT: Adjusted numbers to correct for 200 XP per packet
Nah, too close to the deadline. And some players might not want to make any modifications to Oro's proposal at all, for fear of frustrating him.Can edit the plan to specify doling the parts out one by one. My impression from the chapter was that it was up to us when to return the parts from the 7th path.