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"Hey guys check out this thing by the way, you know the thing I said is slowly breaking out of the Seventh Path and will probably kill us all? Please take a number for your requisite 'I told you so's."
And then have Hanzo show his dragon

kei, KEI and kei. also AMI.

Don't forget:

Teasing Kei about Hazo
 
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Apropos of nothing, has the possibility of using the rockmolding jutsu to make quartz optics been discussed already? I recall telescopes being a sought-after thing? Also solar furnaces would be nice
 
I precommit to voting for forming the HAZOU if it comes up. Some acronym like Holy Action Zestful Operative Unit to replace the failed(?) Crusade. With results already visible: the HAZOU already destroyed one Dragon.
 
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Over the past couple of weeks, Asuma has started ordering a lot of scorch squad missions. Shikamaru thinks that some of them have been of marginal military utility but Asuma has been firm about it without offering any explanation.

Lord Hokage also approved the proposal, though not without some hard bargaining over details which will probably stay in my nightmares."

I'll assume that was why Asuma was going full tilt on being as destructive as possible in the short run, it wasn't for the (marginal) military utility, it was to get some good last licks in before having a peace conference.

Also, would defense against Dragons be a covered term in the treaty (even if not obvious to anyone who isn't aware Dragons are a thing and a threat)?

Also also, poor Akane, she didn't need to kill all those civilians when a peace treaty was being negotiated through back channels.

Ren's position in Mist had been rather shaky since her pardon, having been dismissed as clan head

So, who is the Clan Head now?

an extraordinary Chūnin Exam generously hosted by Hidden Grass

Hazou is still a Chunin, he should immediately volunteer at the meeting.

Separately, in a world of peace, economic control becomes more important than military strength. (A) that means Orochimaru will no longer be necessary to prop up Asuma's authority or necessary as the ninja version of a nuclear deterrent, (B) I guess we're back on for an economics/politics quest once the punching exam is over.
 
Hazou is still a Chunin, he should immediately volunteer at the meeting.
Hazō's chūnin status is a disadvantage when it comes to being selected to attend. Genin are expected at the Exams so they can compete. Jōnin are expected to protect and support the Kage in latently hostile territory. Why would you want chūnin with you, as opposed to settling for them because you can only bring so many jōnin?
 
Just the ridiculous and unrealistic levels of success that Ami has. She just goes from victory to victory with minutes of time and no evidence existing. She's back to complete sue territory. We are some of her closest allies and we never get a whiff of this. Hazou effectively can't do anything without tons of barriers being thrown up where Ami never struggles. With such a narratively and unrealistic character existing in the world killing her is the only way to be safe
I mean, it has not been a secret just how much the QM favoured Ami as a character at this point.
One of them even openly talk about that often, hence why it shouldnt be a suprise that Ami will continue to be an OP character. Even plans like marrying Ami or to that have effect has been regarded as a favourite by the QM

Korporati Speaks.
 
@Velorien @eaglejarl

If Hazou ever started managing the training of someone who had a different base XP per day then him, would they get a different amount of xp after any given plan? Or would the extra spoons this would require mean you would either just give them the same amount of XP as the rest of team uplift is getting or simply prevent Hazou from ever managing the training of such a person?

So for example they have 3 base XP per day to hazou's I believe it was about 2.1 base XP per day. So if a plan gives Hazou 4 XP before factoring in OOC XP bonuses, would that mean that the example person would get around 6 XP?
 
I mean, it has not been a secret just how much the QM favoured Ami as a character at this point.
One of them even openly talk about that often, hence why it shouldnt be a suprise that Ami will continue to be an OP character. Even plans like marrying Ami or to that have effect has been regarded as a favourite by the QM

Korporati Speaks.
This is unfair to the QMs. Ami is a social spec jonin, and her socials are far better than ours. Ami is standing on the shoulders of Giants here, building off of Hashirama's work and working with Kages that are positively inclined to hear her out and be convinced.

Ami's social stats are built for social combat. Hazou's are not. Don't disparage the QM's writing abilities just because Hazou isn't the one doing all the winning, every time.
 
Separately, in a world of peace, economic control becomes more important than military strength. (A) that means Orochimaru will no longer be necessary to prop up Asuma's authority or necessary as the ninja version of a nuclear deterrent, (B) I guess we're back on for an economics/politics quest once the punching exam is over.

Our economy is pretty much in the toilet. Fire had a famine that had to be solved by Monkey and Dog resources and we are down to 9-12 Jonin and lost 80 or so chunnin.

Also whatever villages, farms and mines have been destroyed by Rock and Cloud aren't going to be rebuild overnight.

And chakra is expensive:
  • Summoning land clearing needs Noburi
  • MEW building takes forever*
  • Fertility jutsu is probably not cheap either*
(*Earth type ninja are rare in Leaf and three we know are Clan heads (Hazou, Shikamaru and Shino)

Of course, if we can get some Wakahisa and Minawa then it would become a lot easier, might be a good deal to throw in for Mist and Hot springs.

And punching chakra beasts takes a lot of time, for example our mission to kill them around Tanzuki Gai took ten days with Naruto, Hazou, Akane and Kagome:

After ten days of being itchy and filthy, the team had left a trail of destruction in their wake and were pretty confident that the vast majority of dangerous fauna had been eliminated from their assigned area of operation. Also a lot of the non-dangerous fauna, but no one was too bothered by that. Furthermore, they all agreed that one itty-bitty little twenty-acre crown fire was hardly worth mentioning in the report they would eventually have to file.

The whole project can really easily backfire on Leaf because all the minor villages have more or less full military power and Cloud isn't all that damaged.

This is basically pre-Mist chunnin exam acting, Jiraiya and Shikaku believed they are going to walk into Mist and take over.

This time it's Asuma and Ami.


That only means she is a jonin with additional high social stats. A civilian could have rapport level 70+, in theory at least, being a social spec jonin just means you can enter dangerous places and talk with other nations on more equal footing.

The only problem with "Ami" is that there should be a lot of those around, especially from countries who weren't involved in any big fights recently. You don't send them into random combat missions after all.

Leaf for example had at minimum, Hiruzen, Jiraiya, Inoichi, Shikaku and Hiashi before the Nagi battle.

It would be nice to see a smart River ninja to show up for some deals, or them being at least mentioned, but that might happen during this whole AMITY thing.
 
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[X] Let eaglejarl write what he wants.

Wild guessing as to what this will actually constitute:

EJ doesn't like writing Ami so I don't really see him continuing this meeting. (I also think that trying to one-up Ami in front of the clans is a bad idea and that Hazo knows it. We should do that on our own time and let her know we didn't want to upstage her. She'll love that.) I think that we can look forward to Hazo showing Asuma the Dragonbits and maybe Cannai. I don't know who Hazo would punch right now, but...someone?

Question: does Goketsu have any genin (not formally, but estate ninja) who will qualify for the upcoming exams? That would be fun to read. Do we know any genin (Haru? Sakura?) who are likely to go?
I mean, it has not been a secret just how much the QM favoured Ami as a character at this point.
One of them even openly talk about that often, hence why it shouldnt be a suprise that Ami will continue to be an OP character. Even plans like marrying Ami or to that have effect has been regarded as a favourite by the QM
If you want to go through everything Ami's done in the story, you can probably find a few 'rule of cool' moments, but this isn't even vaguely one of them.

Ami controls Mist - fact. She came about this relatively honestly, having manipulated an unhappy populace to turn against a compromise Mizukage while taking advantage of a massive power vacuum after having swayed an extremely powerful, socially-isolated, figure to her side.

(If anyone thinks that Ami taking control of Mist is weird then our perceptions of in-universe reality differ so greatly as to be irreconcilable.)

She then convinced a figure who is already favourably-inclined towards her to support a cause that solves a great deal of their problems and advances their stated and actual long-term goals significantly.

The only thing here that's even mildly a pull is that Ren was able to find and convince Kisame, but even that doesn't really strain my suspension of disbelief. Ren was able to approach Kisame with an offer of one of the few things that Kisame actually wants and can't get for himself: peace. And that was Ren doing it, not Ami. Ren is a social-spec jonin in her own right. If she was properly-equipped, I'm not surprised that she could run down Kisame, and I'm further unsurprised that she managed to convince him that this was a good idea. Would I have been tremendously surprised if she couldn't find him? Not really. Would I have been shocked had she been unable to convince Kisame that the Akatsuki should join AMITY? Perhaps a little surprised, given that it's a good idea and that it addresses the key issue the Akatsuki had with being used as enforcers: they're being asked to do this job, not imposing themselves.

Also keep in mind that Ami didn't do this on her own. The rest of Clan Mori - at least, the real movers and shakers - were definitely behind her, which is something I think the Hive really neglects when they assess how powerful she is. Ami does not, for all her posturing, act alone. She has an incredible amount of support (read: the Angel without Mercy and anyone who he can influence) and her entire deal is that she specializes in taking advantage of chaotic situations. She's done just that, and it was fairly predictable that she would do so. Kisame is in the wind, he's very powerful, and - assuming some carryover from canon, which doesn't seem totally unreasonable given that the QMs have generally not diverged when the story was a) cool and b) not stupid - his major issue with Mist was Yagura and probably the whole 1984 vibe, neither of which are really a thing anymore. Ami wants to make Mist more powerful. The only real surprise here is that she recruited him for everyone and not just Mist, but given the strong Mist-Leaf ties it makes sense.

(Also, hats off, @Velorien, I have audibly chuckled every time I've read this chapter - fourth go 'round as of a few minutes ago.)
 
@Velorien @eaglejarl

If Hazou ever started managing the training of someone who had a different base XP per day then him, would they get a different amount of xp after any given plan? Or would the extra spoons this would require mean you would either just give them the same amount of XP as the rest of team uplift is getting or simply prevent Hazou from ever managing the training of such a person?

So for example they have 3 base XP per day to hazou's I believe it was about 2.1 base XP per day. So if a plan gives Hazou 4 XP before factoring in OOC XP bonuses, would that mean that the example person would get around 6 XP?
We'd give them the same amount of XP. Don't forget that everyone in Team Uplift gets the same XP rate, and you can safely assume they don't all have the same level of natural talent as pre-hivemind Hazō.
 
To follow up FS's inquiry and compile what we know, can we actually just get an update on what ninja are left on the estate?

From after the collapse, so about a year and a couple months ago:
39 ninja:
  • 2 Academy students, ages seven and nine
  • 31 genin, ages twelve to sixteen
  • 1 medically-retired chūnin with palsy and the beginnings of dementia
  • 3 semi-crippled chūnin (missing leg; missing arm; horrific burns down her entire right side)
  • 2 young, healthy chūnin who were probably skinwastes These two moved back into the city after finding that some family they had thought were dead were in fact still alive.
  • 2 mature and competent chūnin: Atomu and Reo. They are both in their early thirties, charismatic and organized enough that you can delegate some leadership tasks to them. Reo is missing his right leg above the knee and is therefore not fully combat capable, although as a ninjutsu-spec he has more ability than he would if he were taijutsu-spec.
Atomu, Reo, and Mai have been adopted. We have also been told some genin left to join KEI at their estate and we were supportive. Then there was the runaway missingnin who thought Hazou was going to torture him, and he had a sister. I think the sister is still here.

Presumably, some or many of the genin simply died over the course of the year and a few months, especially with the war going on. Some of the older genin are likely close to promotion or have been promoted in that year. So, who remains? (I don't think we need names or anything yet)

Additionally, we had Gaku make a list of everyone who made Chuunin (or has a research specialty such as Sealing, THing, or Medicine) and also shows alignment to Uplift. We know Kagome's student Jinno lives on our estate, but were there any others who have any of these traits?

Reason I'm asking: New chuunin are most at risk (besides new genin, but by definition no one that's still alive on our estate is a new genin until one of the academy kids graduates.) Therefore, I'd prioritize adopting any new chuunin to keep them safer. However, if we have adoptions to spare we could pick some genin that are ALMOST Chuunin and send them to the exams. I think it would be fun training some kids up to represent us.

And if we really need more adoption slots, we did just come upon a collection of Rare Material...
 
Therefore, I'd prioritize adopting any new chuunin to keep them safer. However, if we have adoptions to spare we could pick some genin that are ALMOST Chuunin and send them to the exams. I think it would be fun training some kids up to represent us.
Reminder that if any of the SSSSSS survived Orochimaru, we owe them adoption.

We should probably chase that up because otherwise they're going to show up on the estate and it will not be a good time. (I shudder when I remember Hidan's unannounced return. We never call, we never write...) Best case, we find that they're all dead/disillusioned but that they left us their biosealing scrolls in their wills. Given that Isan is participating in the exams, I think we should do this NOW (i.e. next voting cycle) lest we have an awkward meeting.
And if we really need more adoption slots, we did just come upon a collection of Rare Material...
I'm not sure that Dragonstuff is going to be very valuable to other clans. It's a cognitohazard with ??? properties. I think it's at least as much liability as it is valuable. Which clan would be most likely to be interested? Is there a specific tooluser/toolmaker clan that might be inherently curious about rare materials?
 
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