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Anyone want to try this? Seems quick and easy with substantial potential benefits, assuming Akane has survived her missions.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Anyone want to try this? Seems quick and easy with substantial potential benefits, assuming Akane has survived her missions.
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I think if it could be done, it would have been done already. Same goes for Technique Hacking, Sealsmithing, and Genjutsu-ing. Always seems like you need an instructor, where books just fill in the gaps
It sounds like Asuma himself was interested in trying it when he went to mess with the engineering team
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You are now imagining what would happen if Akane tried flying a flammable Skyslider while using Flame Aura.
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I fully expect her to have taken advantage of her situation. She was out of her depth but she is clever and opportunistic enough that I don't imagine there's a single way she didn't. This is a "just in case, it may make Mist ruler of the world" type of situation
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Just gonna throw this out there and sorry if it's been brought up already, but is it possible we could get Rock Lee to teach Akane how to open Gates? I know they're not close, but wouldn't he respect Akane's respect of Youth? Might be a good way of increasing her survivability until she becomes a physical goddess.
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Oh, I misunderstood. I thought you meant that Ren absorbed the seal during the battle, itself. Given the immediate mind-whammy the Pangolin Scroll and the Great Seal gave, I thought that would be shortsighted of Ren. But yeah, it makes sense that Ren would download the seals after the battle.
(Or course, Pain's ritual seals aren't likely to be as powerful as the Sage's, so it might not have caused Severes)
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Isn't Flame Aura contact only? Wrap the handle bars and contact points with something non-flammable then no problem! Maybe.
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All of Hazō's mind-whammies came after a first contact with the Out, and, of course, plenty of knowledge. My assumption is that it's a memetic hazard that at least partly relies on sealing knowledge rather than a generic cognitohazard.
I'm basing this on Hazō's first brush with the Pangolin Summoning Scroll - he starts waxing lyrical about how it sings softly to the universe and only nudges things slightly aside instead of shouting like an explosive tag... when he starts getting, essentially, how it pokes, and he gets poked as well.
If that assumption is correct then Ren should be completely fine
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Problem 1: Discover the gates exist, that Gai knew them, and that Lee was even taught them
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*mumbles mumbles what if Nagato was the second coming of the sage and wouldn't that teach you not to assume things you stinkers*
Didn't the Nara make a public Leaf library of techniques, training lore, etc. as part of Asuma's rebuild-Leaf-and-prove-the-Will-of-Fire contest? That'd probably be at least in the somewhat-restricted section, but yenno... the fact that this library is supposed to exist should mean it's not a bad idea to check it out. Also I wouldn't recommend the Gates thing to be honest - let's at least make special jōnin before we learn any more sacrificial techniques ay?
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Well Akane is already essentially a special jounin so no reason she shouldn't get more sacrificial techniques
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AKANE IS FORBIDDEN FROM SACRIFICING
WE DO NOT SACRIFICE PUPPY
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Lol a few weeks ago it was let's just have Akane take missions since we care about her less. Now it turns out she's to precious to learn forbidden techniques
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I think this is overrating Akane tbh
Akane Taijutsu + Flame Aura is good, BUT: That's assuming she gets to go first, assuming she can close in on the enemy for melee attacks, and assuming they don't have any other kind of tricks that can deal with it, or a better buff than her. And her alertness and athletics aren't any more impressive than your typical chuunin. Hell, they're not even much more impressive than Hazou's. So if her Spec-Jonin specialty is to be Taijutsu, she needs to be sure she gets to use her taijutsu and win as a jonin-tier combatant, and I'm not sure she can do that yet, not reliably at least.
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Assuming that Gates exist in this universe, she's not gonna be popping off #8 at the drop of a hat. She'd start slow, like with the First and Second Gates. Maybe 3 if she's feeling feisty.
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I actually think this mostly aligns with what we know in story. When ninjas are promoted to Jounin there's a major spike in fatalities. Akane's right at the point where she's not favored against a jounin but even in a white room she has a decent chance. Therefore she needs forbidden techniques to not get bodied in her fights
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She has comparable stats to Daizen who was considered a recently frocked average Chuunin
2 50s and 2 40s in combat for a standard normie... For reference, Akane has Tai/Ath/Alt of 54/44/42
If our expectation of a Jonin minimum is a 60/60/60 in Combat/Ath/Alt, then in a white room I do not expect Akane to have a decent chance against a jonin or a combat spec jonin. It's highly unlikely she goes first, and she needs a turn to set up Flame Aura. In that time, she either gets hit or the enemy buffs up first. From what I recall, in her recent fight with a jonin, she didn't land a single hit after buffing.
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They're not life sacrificial, but they're dangerous to your body, and Miss Pushes Herself Too Hard The Third really doesn't need a power-in-exchange-for-crippling-oneself technique. Regular techniques are often good boosts that don't also risk killing you
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I put together a potential character sheet for Daizen: Daizen
He has 7287 XP spent in this sheet, which is 1361 less than Akane.
Using this character sheet, I wrote-up some ultra-whiteroom fights between him and Akane, along with an ultra-whiteroom fight between a RW jounin (Akane's worst matchup [along with ranged ninjutsu] with her bad Athletics) and Akane. You can find those fights here: Ultra-whiteroom fights
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...shit
(Thank you for your efforts though!)
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Eh, most of that was pretty close:
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But for the consequences from the previous round, Akane would have won this exchange:
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Akane, with no fudge dice, no help, and no additional tricks or skills is nearly equal to them. The ranged weapon Jonin is also explicitly her worst matchup, and in the whiteroom she does deal damage to the Jonin and is only a hairsbreadth away from winning most of their exchanges (not including the long distance throws).
Also, the odds of her running into an enemy Jonin isn't particularly high, they have very few and Akane isn't a high priority target.
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She lost to a chuunin at melee range, which is supposed to be where she's at her best. He wasn't even an exceptionally talented chuunin! Not looking forward to seeing these mission rolls....
Besides, the original question is whether she's spec jounin material or not, and the writeup does not speak confidence to me
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She lost to his particularly effective jutsu, and not by that much 57 to 54, and then because of those consequences (a 19 swing, -9 on her and +10 for him) she lost 70 to 67.
She did well (but unsuccessful, barely) against a Jonin and did well (but unsuccessful, barely, again) against a Chunin with a particularly effective jutsu against her.
Any single random beneficial environmental factor, or just a net of a single fudge die in her favor, has her winning both fights.