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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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Not sure where the unclarity is, but a SIN-1 is still just an implosion seal, nothing more. If there's some wonkiness with the math then eh. Apparently implosion seals release into a larger area or more slowly or who cares. The exact details of the implementation have never been described onscreen so it's not that important.
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SIN-1 is an implosion seal whose release has been delayed. While one can fudge the first atmosphere not being relevant for a normal implosion seal like Radvic did, you can't do that for a delayed release. You really do have a complete initial atmosphere there that you are adding to.
I should note that my explicitly stated policy for implosion seals has long been "the QMs wrote themselves into a bit of a corner with the worldbuilding here so I don't prod too hard." If you want SIN-1 to be identical to a normal implosion seal, that's fine. I said 'should be' with reference to the stated physical model, not with reference to expected canon. Ignoring the problem is Actually Totally OK and has worked for almost the entire quest.
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This isn't really a criticism of @Insert , but I do hope Gaku reaches out to other clans and ninja who should have some connected skills.
I would be suprised if none of them have some interest in mathematics. The Aburame after all create their glasses with ninjutsu, so they aren't exactly anti-science, they just don't want to use civilians. Could be some level of elitism, could be something else.
But I don't want to have a software engineer perfrom surgery on me, thank you. So maybe their unwillingness to share is somewhat understandable.
And if math is important to sealing than every clan should be wanting some advances in the field, considering that even Hagoromo was pretty happy to get a free sealmaster tutor, having sealmaster is just always valuable. Even Minami Nikko accepted Kagome as a future tutor for her clan in exchange for "sorry I tried to murder you for stupid reasons".
Which we should never ever bring up until Hazou and Kagome havre 60+ deceit.
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18.7m radius does not sound like a "small area". Have things been retcon'd since then?
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Oh, I see. Your distinction is simply "a SIN1 is the special name that we give to the subclass of implosion seals that have had their release phase delayed.". They are in fact implosion seal, so I guess we're both right.
Regarding writing ourselves into a corner...no? It works the way it works. The behind the scenes isn't relevant so if Radvic's numbers don't produce what was shown onscreen then Radvic's numbers are wrong.
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I am totally OK with this as the word of God on the matter, but to be clear, Radvic's analysis came about because the original physical function was significantly more wrong. You wrote yourselves into a corner in the sense that you described both a method and and a result, the two didn't match, and I expect there neither was nor is a totally clean way to rectify the mismatch without retconning in-story details.
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Who's to say that the EN's atmosphere is 1:1 with our own, or for that matter, that its laws of physics are?
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This, tbh. With chakra (an inherently soft magic system that defies even quantification) permeating everything, I would hesitate to hold our real-world mathematics as fundamentally "always true" wrt the world of MfD.
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The hivemind relied on application of real world physics to craft some of the most devastating weapons in the EN?
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I never said they were dissimilar, I only mean that there's no reason the numbers all have to be exactly the same for the world to still be cohesive.
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What setting has a hard magic system in your opinion?
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Kei is not a cianite pill she have her own life luckly we have something that can give a end almos as violent.
"Not enough" amounts of explosives.
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I don't have anything specific in mind but I'd probably start with magic that isn't both Sentient and intentionally inconsistent to fuck with you
That said I'd probably say MfD magic does err closer to hard magic than soft magic? OTOH, some stuff is intentionally obfuscated for simplicity (IE Sealing where the terminology and math can be understood in-universe but don't carry real meaning to the reader). I'm not sure now...
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What a thing to start a post with.
So is there any retcons with regard to Akane almost killing herself from chakra exhaustion?
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No, there are still a number of ways that could work.
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...I remember EJ once saying that captive ninja had to be treated well, because they could just Boost until they died of chakra exhaustion. The fact that this is no longer the case is.... cause for concern.
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Could still work, just replace "Chakra Exhaustion" with "Do your level best to destroy your internal organs by over boosting them."...I remember EJ once saying that captive ninja had to be treated well, because they could just Boost until they died of chakra exhaustion. The fact that this is no longer the case is.... cause for concern.
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So it's kind of like holding your breath? If you're particularly obstinate, you can do it until you go unconscious, but after that you'll stop and won't die unless something else gets you.
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Could we vote in an absolute compel into Hazō's character? I'd like to have one where if Hazō has an opportunity to catch a gulp of dragon blood he does so
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I've precommitted my votes that that effect... You should do the same >:3
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Wonderful, another entry.
For the record I'm not explicitly condemning nor praising any of these actions. This is meant as a reminder that we, as a group, ponder some frankly bizarre courses of action regardless of those actions' efficacy.
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List of Weird Actions the Thread has Seriously Considered for Unfathomable Reasons:
- Getting pregnant with Sasuke's child
- Buying a
REDACTED - Sending a letter to and meeting with Itachi without authorization
- Volunteering to be vivisected by Snuncle
- Drinking actual Dragon blood
For the record I'm not explicitly condemning nor praising any of these actions. This is meant as a reminder that we, as a group, ponder some frankly bizarre courses of action regardless of those actions' efficacy.
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[X] Don't Drink Dragon's Blood
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