Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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A clarifying statement: My earlier statement was poorly phrased and will be corrected to the following:
This update establishes the fact that the players no longer need to worry about setting up revenue streams, because your experts are doing that in the background. This is not a guarantee that there will be no economic problems. The clan has a solid financial footing, a good amount of liquid reserves and plenty of non-liquid reserves, and as of now it has more income than expenses. It's possible that Mari's scheme, or one of the other things going on in the background, will explode and cause problems for you. That's a special event. The basic economic stuff is dealt with and you don't need to worry about it further.
This update establishes the fact that the players no longer need to worry about setting up revenue streams, because your experts are doing that in the background. This is not a guarantee that there will be no economic problems. The clan has a solid financial footing, a good amount of liquid reserves and plenty of non-liquid reserves, and as of now it has more income than expenses. It's possible that Mari's scheme, or one of the other things going on in the background, will explode and cause problems for you. That's a special event. The basic economic stuff is dealt with and you don't need to worry about it further.
Respectively: Yes, no, no.
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Some worries:
Mari and Gaku ok'd sabotaging coffee fields. Not very Uplift. If discovered won't be terrible since standard ninja stuff in nina views. But might make it harder for us to pull other ninja into better Uplift morals.
Abolition of merchant council. We are clos eto getting a majority vote anyway. Nnija can usually get whatever businesses they want, just need ing to wait a bit for approval. The merchant council was made to help protect civilians against ninja, a very rare instance in ninja society.
Both this and the below
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oh, also mari didn't tell us this beforhand, which is worrying.
Mari and Gaku ok'd sabotaging coffee fields. Not very Uplift. If discovered won't be terrible since standard ninja stuff in nina views. But might make it harder for us to pull other ninja into better Uplift morals.
Abolition of merchant council. We are clos eto getting a majority vote anyway. Nnija can usually get whatever businesses they want, just need ing to wait a bit for approval. The merchant council was made to help protect civilians against ninja, a very rare instance in ninja society.
Both this and the below
is messing with the checks and balances of the economic system. Even if we are benevolent, our successor might not be. Our minions might not be (look at Gaku and Mari with teh chocolate). We can't watch al our minions. An unchecked corruption could cause bring the economic system down to a lower Nash equilibrum.
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oh, also mari didn't tell us this beforhand, which is worrying.
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...so what I'm hearing from this and the update is that we've at long last established our Merchant Empire/Spy Network combo, a long-held dream of the thread from our days as missing-nin. Huzzah!
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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So I'm viewing the clan seat option as just something we shouldn't touch with a ten foot pole since its almost assuredly going to be the KEI faction's choice, and everyone there will be super mad with us if we pick it, and I don't want to chance burning those bridges lol
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
[X] Prize Preferences: Who's A Good Doggo?
Currently not sure if I want tax to be second or third choice, because we don't know how exactly it's supposed to work, but my most likely estimations place this configuration as most optimal.
Currently not sure if I want tax to be second or third choice, because we don't know how exactly it's supposed to work, but my most likely estimations place this configuration as most optimal.
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- Yes.
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- The state of Paranoia
Translation: We'll be so freaking rich we'll maybe even be able to get a telescope.
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- Yes.
Money was never the limiting factor in getting a telescope. We're ninja, not law-abiding civilians.
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- He/Him
I mostly want the adoption slots, but that is a good point. Giving them the clan seat after claiming it ourselves could get us in their good books if they don't do well in the contest though.
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- America
We don't have to worry about our successor because we don't plan on dying. Our long term goal is immortality after all. If we do die, them the quest has ended and it's no longer our concern what our successors do.
I see the latest few scenes as Mari chafing at the bit. She wants to do her thing, and personally I think the restrictions and complaints about her behavior are driving her to do more and worse to prove us wrong.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
This implies our second character won't immediately beeline the Goketsu Estate and try to join up
More seriously, Hazou may be the inventor of Uplift but Team Uplift will continue without us if it has to, and while without Hazou they lose some of the most innovative pushes forwards they are still a formidable force on the side of Uplift. Since our future characters will inevitably converge on Uplift-esque ideologies if we play them long enough, whether Team Uplift remains a powerful force advancing Uplift inthe world is still our concern.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Also, if Hazou is later resurrected we probably continue playing from that point.This implies our second character won't immediately beeline the Goketsu Estate and try to join up
More seriously, Hazou may be the inventor of Uplift but Team Uplift will continue without us if it has to, and while without Hazou they lose some of the most innovative pushes forwards they are still a formidable force on the side of Uplift. Since our future characters will inevitably converge on Uplift-esque ideologies if we play them long enough, whether Team Uplift remains a powerful force advancing Uplift inthe world is still our concern.
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- The state of Paranoia
Would our massive merchant spy network help?
Emstar
The Shining One
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- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
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- She/They
Dog summons would help track down telescope merchant, I think.
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
[X] Prize Preferences: Barks and Blood
1) Dog Scroll
2) Ebisu time + jutsu
3) Land plot
4) Money pile
5) Clan seat + adoption slots
I want to see more of Ebisu's character in the quest, I think he'd be a potential Uplift recruit, and I think we might be able to get Ebisu as an occasional guest-sensei (once we have enough personal clout with him) for GED and for us. As for land? Well, we've had a mine plot hook for a while, but it's just... there, gathering chakra dust and power.
1) Dog Scroll
2) Ebisu time + jutsu
3) Land plot
4) Money pile
5) Clan seat + adoption slots
I want to see more of Ebisu's character in the quest, I think he'd be a potential Uplift recruit, and I think we might be able to get Ebisu as an occasional guest-sensei (once we have enough personal clout with him) for GED and for us. As for land? Well, we've had a mine plot hook for a while, but it's just... there, gathering chakra dust and power.
I second that. I feel as if it exempts us from all taxes we would be rolling in so much money we could basically buy small countries. Do something like Ireland with the tax law, and see the money roll in. And then add in the fact that all businesses under the Goketu Estate are exempt from taxes would give us a huge leg up on any competitors for any business opportunity, basically guaranteeing we would become the Amazon of the world, where the places that we decide to set up, the local areas would change their laws and try to appease us to come and set up factories.
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- The state of Paranoia
[X] Prize Preferences: Barks and Blood
I don't think that it would apply to the businesses underneath us, at least not to the ones that aren't official. Wouldn't that cause a massive loss for the Tower?
Obviously don't know, still have shrugged shoulders from QM's.
Was simply saying that if it becomes the case that businesses and such become tax free, it would be much more valuable than a plot of land (and maaaybeee if you stretched it) more valuable than the dog scroll in the long term, as it would scale with our operations. The more money we make, the more money we save from having no taxes, means more money we make, etc. Happy Death Spiral.
It also would allow us to have a tax haven to begin operations with large scale business ventures. Like kick starting the industrial revolution....
But ya never know
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
@eaglejarl, @Velorien, @OliWhail, what's the status of our 'submit Jiraiya's sealwork' contest submission? As I recall, we talked about it a fair bit and I think said we were doing it to Asuma, but I wouldn't want there to be a disconnect where on our end we assumed it had gone through and on your end you were waiting for us to pull the trigger and we never did.
Also, does the fact that we only have a fraction of the sealwork decoded render the un-decoded parts unviable for submission, or would we get to submit the whole thing with the actual 'giving to the Tower' a continual process as we decode it?
Also, does the fact that we only have a fraction of the sealwork decoded render the un-decoded parts unviable for submission, or would we get to submit the whole thing with the actual 'giving to the Tower' a continual process as we decode it?