Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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Seducing Oro with ninjutsu, using the threads plan, I see.
But I don't think Oro will make a good social spec, you should have gone to Ryu or Hana.
But I don't think Oro will make a good social spec, you should have gone to Ryu or Hana.
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I wonder how a Soulstealer bloodline would interact with a ninja whose main claim to fame is mastery of their bloodline, a la Itachi. Would they get a weaker variation of their power, distilled as a jutsu? Like, for the Byakugan, would they just gain a combat-sense technique that increases passive perception while active? Or for the Nara, would they gain the ability to have their default "night vision" increased by a certain amount?
*looks guiltily at my post*
...Alright, you know, the fact that you enjoy writing Ami makes me no longer want to have her killed. But I'm also conflicted by my change of opinion because, other than Ami's masks and her almost-obsessive dedication to Keiko, we know almost nothing about her motivations! Well. We know that she thinks Hazou is an idealistic fool and that she's fatalistically determined to get some unknown cause done, but that she also refuses to sacrifice her freedom for that same cause. Maybe her jonin-trigger was something to do with a lack of freedom?
But we still know Ami only a little better than we know Orochimaru. I'm going to add "get to understand Ami" to my list... I feel like once we know what her goal is, everything'll be pieced together.
*looks guiltily at my post*
...Alright, you know, the fact that you enjoy writing Ami makes me no longer want to have her killed. But I'm also conflicted by my change of opinion because, other than Ami's masks and her almost-obsessive dedication to Keiko, we know almost nothing about her motivations! Well. We know that she thinks Hazou is an idealistic fool and that she's fatalistically determined to get some unknown cause done, but that she also refuses to sacrifice her freedom for that same cause. Maybe her jonin-trigger was something to do with a lack of freedom?
But we still know Ami only a little better than we know Orochimaru. I'm going to add "get to understand Ami" to my list... I feel like once we know what her goal is, everything'll be pieced together.
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- He/Him
Possibly next Thursday. Depends on if I have the time to make the simulator changes before then.
Well, then. Plot tension is at absolute max. Possibly for a week.
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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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- Europe
Don't worry, Daizen will come to save us. (After we get killed)
Lord Jashin truly is the greatest.
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The nice thing about fighting Flufflec is that you can hear the screams from across half the continent, so you always know where he is.
I suppose the fact that the world still exists is sufficient evidence that Ridvac hasn't been isekai'd in, so they probably don't have to worry about him.
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You'd never hear them, because [DELETED BY FUTURE-FAFLEC].
I want to explore a new continent, plus it's EJ approved.
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- Yes.
[X] Action Plan: The Next Great Adventure
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- The state of Paranoia
I want to create tons of trade deals between villages.
Explore other continents, create trade deals with them. Trade for honey with Bear.
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- Italy
Use the paths as an anchor to create a interdimensional Sealing Golem that we'll use to stabilized the Paths and all of reality, stopping people from getting erased for no reason and letting Kagome live a normal life. Also, this Golem must be capable of partial summoning and bombardament, because i want Hazou to be capable of summoning a giant Mecha that can call interdimensional bombardament at will on his enemies.
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Too much? Because i'm thinking about Long Term Plan Number 2:Conquer the Out.
Half-Jokes asides
- Long Term Plan #1: Understand Ami and have an honest discussion with her
- Long Term Plan #2: Uncover the esoteric lore, like what the Fives are, who the Sages was and so on
- Long Term Plan #3: Learn how Tailed Beast/Jinchuriki(?) work, if safe obtain one to talk with, as they will probably know about 2
- Long Term Plan #4:Explore other Paths
- Long Term Plan #5:Save the Condor
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- Potato land
The Soulstealer Bloodline, as previously discussed, is also both interesting as a game element and has cool social implications.
For example, let's say the character needs 5 minutes in contact with a fresh corpse (as in, killed within the last 15 minutes, storage seals remove freshness), during which time they're effectively incapacitated, to be able to steal the soul. What kind of behaviour does that incentivize? Working alone results in a lot of risk and very limited opportunities, so you'd really want someone to watch your back and help move bodies around. But then, what kind of person wants to participate in this kind of thing? How do we find someone we can trust with this? Not to even mention that another person even knowing about the bloodline is a deadly threat in itself, as any local ninja organisation will either want to force-recruit us or kill us outright.
Sounds pretty good to me, is all I'm saying.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Could always start that side-quest this weekend rather than omake/CFTG if you don't sort the stuff out in time, @eaglejarl
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I'm a bit wary of doing so, since the EN is so huge a place as is... but Isan was pretty fucking cool to read, so I imagine that any worldbuilding would be immaculate. It'd be difficult, though, since there's no high-speed, long-distant mode of travel, other than running... though, if we get the skygliders down, we could combine that with skywalkers for some highspeed travel. If we incorporate controlled/directional explosions, we could probably come up with a rudimentary airplane type of thing. I'd still want to do the exploration during a time when we either have nothing left to lose, or during a time when we have nothing going on for a significant portion of time.
Well, we're planning on sending people back for lemon/limes, right? Whether or not we get seeds/agricultural info, we could probably combine citrus fruits with some of Leaf's own unique goods to leverage trade with Bear. I feel like a broken record since I keep circling back to alcohol (though it's not like we know what else there's a demand for, save for maybe food) but citrus and honey would do interesting things to Leaf's alcohol variety, not to mention the culinary possibilities.
That said, Leaf is basically one giant forest right? Honeybees might be indigenous to Leaf, thus making trading for Bear-specific honey a bit redundant... unless Bear has unique honey?
- I'm okay with that, especially since she'd make for a good friend. I'm honestly curious about what her Ultimate Goal is, but Mari owes Ami a huge favor for a moment's worth of untethered, honest advice. So I'm a little worried about what that honest discussion might cost us. Though, we know that the circumstances surrounding her ascension to jonin probably had something to do with Ami's bloodline, her clan, and restricting her freedom --it's the only thing she values more than her Goal, and Ami's chapters show her thumbing her nose to her clan elders, IIRC. Hazou, himself, might be able to come to a similar conclusion with a bit of dedicated thinking. We also know that the "true" Ami (as she, herself, views herself) is completely flat, expressionless, and finds the masks she wears tedious (from that one date where Ami thinks Hazou finds the masks offensive).
- I think that the best way to go about this is (after discussing with Keiko/Mari) to be honest with Ami. Tell her that, while we don't really understand her, and we don't know her Ultimate Goal, we'd like to. That Ami has earned Keiko's regard time and time again, that Mari has [__blank__] feelings about her, and that, to Hazou, that means something. Tell Ami about Hazou's family experience and that, family means something important to Hazou and that Ami, through Keiko, is, indeed, family. Politics and manipulations aside, we'd honestly like to get to know Ami.
- Expect Ami to tease Hazou, though, since it seems that anytime Hazou brings up their family connection, Ami takes that opportunity to flirt with him. Whether it's coming from a place of genuine interest, amusement at teasing a relatively harmless teenage boy, some unknown manipulation, or a combination of all three, I don't know.
- I think I've just talked myself into considering Ami as a potential romance option for Hazou...
- I think that the best way to go about this is (after discussing with Keiko/Mari) to be honest with Ami. Tell her that, while we don't really understand her, and we don't know her Ultimate Goal, we'd like to. That Ami has earned Keiko's regard time and time again, that Mari has [__blank__] feelings about her, and that, to Hazou, that means something. Tell Ami about Hazou's family experience and that, family means something important to Hazou and that Ami, through Keiko, is, indeed, family. Politics and manipulations aside, we'd honestly like to get to know Ami.
- I'm okay with that. Didn't the QMs strongly imply that getting a telescope would help along those lines? It was "before my time," so I may be wrong. But if I'm right, then I'd be okay with getting one, once the Goketsu clan has more sources of income. The QMs don't want to play an economic sim, but we should probably get some set up for narrative cohesion, if nothing else. As is, getting a telescope might put a big enough dent that we feel it, in-story.
- Well, we're on... alright terms with Naruto. And his childhood seems far more structured than in canon (although it's implied he was similarly abandoned for a bit, then he tried to adjust his personality via shadow clones, something went Very Wrong, and he needed direct intervention from several S-rank ninja to be patched together) so he might know more about his nature as a jinchuriki. Not to mention what he, himself, might have deduced from simply experiencing/being a jinchuriki. The only question is Naruto would trust us with that knowledge, and what esoteric lore he knows.
- side note, Naruto has limitless chakra by nature of being a jinchuriki (or maybe being the Kyuubi's jinchuriki, specifically?). Why hasn't Orochimaru taken a scientific interest in Naruto, as a specimen? You would think that would be something he'd be all over. Do you think that maybe there's data somewhere from when Mito/Kushina was a jinchuriki? Depending on the personalities of all those involved, they might have recorded experiments and observations for future sealmasters and jinchuriki --for safety reasons, if nothing else.
- You mean like the Seventh Path? Though, admittedly, it does imply at least 6 other Paths.
- I agree, but we'll have to be careful. A summoner doesn't have that much political power within their summoning clan, so rocking the boat might end in a severance of the contract. But if the Goketsu clan gains enough scrolls, or becomes allies with enough summoners, then we might be able to leverage those connections to force the Pangolins to stop/reverse their conquest.
Not to mention the interesting character implications. Hazou has a history of being a unintentionally manipulative and accidentally dehumanizing people under his authority. Imagine the struggles that someone with a Soulstealer bloodline would have. Even the most moral of ninja with that bloodline would likely have a warped perspective. Frankly, I think that such a character would work better as a side character or an antagonist... but that's mostly because I've become attached to Hazou's character and plot.
If Hazou dies, I'd still participate and be just as involved in the Quest as before, but I'd likely be a little bit sad... though, with the Afterlife being, theoretically, accessible, it might be possible for him to break out, DOOM Guy Style and then go on to be a side character in the new character's story. Even if not, it'd be interesting to hear about Hazou through other characters, from the point of view of a different person.
My heart breaks a little bit at the thought, though. Because, more than likely, everyone would think of him as just another kid who burned too brightly before being snuffed out by the cruel, immutable world they live in. They'd think about Hazou's Uplift idea as the fevered daydream of a kid with dreams too big for his hands to craft. It'd make Uplift and the idea of international peace seem even more far-fetched than it already it. The world would be darker without Hazou in it, but if anyone thought of Hazou at all, they would just shake their heads in sorrowed resignation and quietly shame themselves for having been inspired to hope, just a little bit, that this foolishly naive, headstrong idiot of a kid might be able to do Something. They'd kill their hearts a little more, they'd smother their hope in the cradle, and remind themselves that the world can't be changed. Not really. And, if you ask, they'd point to Hazou's fate as proof.
If Hazou dies, I'd still participate and be just as involved in the Quest as before, but I'd likely be a little bit sad... though, with the Afterlife being, theoretically, accessible, it might be possible for him to break out, DOOM Guy Style and then go on to be a side character in the new character's story. Even if not, it'd be interesting to hear about Hazou through other characters, from the point of view of a different person.
My heart breaks a little bit at the thought, though. Because, more than likely, everyone would think of him as just another kid who burned too brightly before being snuffed out by the cruel, immutable world they live in. They'd think about Hazou's Uplift idea as the fevered daydream of a kid with dreams too big for his hands to craft. It'd make Uplift and the idea of international peace seem even more far-fetched than it already it. The world would be darker without Hazou in it, but if anyone thought of Hazou at all, they would just shake their heads in sorrowed resignation and quietly shame themselves for having been inspired to hope, just a little bit, that this foolishly naive, headstrong idiot of a kid might be able to do Something. They'd kill their hearts a little more, they'd smother their hope in the cradle, and remind themselves that the world can't be changed. Not really. And, if you ask, they'd point to Hazou's fate as proof.
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Edit: Sorry about the late reply!!! Finals are a bitch and online training is... tedious.
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- Book Fort
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Well... We know that heated sand makes glass. Kagome is an explosive genius from an unknown village with a mental library of forbidden lore, so he might know something? If nothing else, we could do trial and error experiments with heat and sand?
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- He/Him
He finally revealed that he's from Cloud, the ninja village for the Land of Lightning.
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Oh, I thought that Jiraiya just manufactured that as part of Kagome's backstory for the sake of convenience --point the blame at the Social Other that's known for doing horrible things and leaving people scarred. Well, now I want to give Kagome a hug and some chocolate, but he'd just blow me up and test the chocolate for poison.