You bastard (and I say that in admiration) you had me going through every stage of denial through that. You had me scrambling to figure out how we could save the clan without Mari's help... A toast, in your honor (*raises my coffee cup*)

"I just wanted to say thanks." Hazō smiled [...] Keiko seemed taken aback.

Keiko needs to consider the frightening possibility that she's a good person, whose intrinsic value is far beyond whatever she might have once feared.

[...] she interrogated me in great detail on the subject of one Gōketsu Hazō, a peculiar individual by all accounts, but not one presently in her disfavour.

I think this is the Ami version of flirting? Of scoping out a prospective partner? Or may this is just Ami's way and she's convinced her sister to join in the fun? Jesus fuck, what if Keiko becomes more like Ami in personality through this strengthening of their familial bond?

...Hazou will be fiiine. Right?

I may have omitted certain details such as [...] matters confided in deepest trust, and incidents associated with particularly excruciating humiliation, although I reserve the right to deploy those later as necessary.

I swear that some of you actually have siblings in real life because this is the most realistic sibling-moment in the world. I don't have any cookies to offer, but I can toast to your brilliance with my coffee?

I feel it is entirely in the spirit of your relationship with Ami to leave you guessing at what I chose to withhold.

Yup, sibling bonds are awesome.

That's assuming that there is such a thing as civilian+ninja marriages, as opposed to concubines or affairs. I'm honestly not sure if there is or not.

I think that there is. I mean, Leaf is notably more progressive than the other countries in the EN --for whatever that's worth. There are mixed marriages out there (maybe they're even not uncommon) but I suspect that they're looked upon with confusion and mild distaste, rather than outright scorn like Mist would have had. I think that there's a sort of cultural "You're marrying someone who cannot defend themselves [which ninja-marriages inherently have as the romantic version of a security blanket], fundamentally does not understand our ways and cannot wholly understand our ways. But if a civilian makes you happy and can positively contribute toward your clan... who am I to judge?"

I think that Shikaku only got so much flak because he was the heir to a prominent clan and Yoshino hadn't yet established herself as the kickass person that she is. If her intellectual prowess had been as renown then as it is now, then I think that the Nara clan would have all but rolled the red carpet out for her, welcoming her as a valuable addition to the clan. The Nara are too practical to allow such foolish delusions to impede their clan's mission.

Also, I believe that the younger generations of Leaf ninja (from babies up through Genin, maybe even some chuunin) are going to be far more progressive, even by Leaf standards. The Sinkhole Incident killed a lot of valuable ninja, meaning that the older ninja are going to be running missions almost constantly to be able to maintain Leaf's strong appearance on the global scale, thus reducing the amount of bigotry that the younger generations are exposed to. Furthermore, with so many of the ninja population being gone, the civilian population is going to step up to fill those roles, much like women did in the American workforce during the First World War --leading to a massive women's right movement later on.

I believe that Leaf will follow along those same lines, with Leaf Civilians taking up the slack with a nationalistic pride ("Our Village, Our Duty. By the Will of Fire") that leads to the younger generations being raised with civilians and ninja working side by side, not thinking anything of it.

And, respectfully, i'm of the opinion the Haru part will backfire spectacularly unless Akane saves the situation:

Yes. I mean, I'm all for having tea with him (and Akane in the room to play mediator) to see how he feels. For all we know, the Sinkhole Incident might have shaken up his beliefs. Large-scale tragedy has a way of doing that. I suppose, admittedly, that Haru could be spiteful (and stupid) enough for this to have simply solidified his bigotry. Though with someone like Akane as his teammate and friend, I highly doubt that she would allow him the mercy of such unyouthful delusions.

Especially since if there are ninja wars ever 5-15 years that drastically reduce the ninja population [...]

In all fairness, we don't know how chakra changes human biology, or how more of it (ninja vs civilian, or jinchuuriki vs ninja amounts) does the same. For all we know, chakra, the literal confluence of physical and mental energies, makes the body more fertile. Or maybe it doesn't. And if it doesn't, then how would the ninja world reflect that need for warm bodies to throw to war? How would affairs and bastard children be looked upon if there's a dire, societal demand for more ninja? Would affairs be overlooked as long as they were fruitful? Would bastard children only be remarked upon as "I mean, not an heir, but who cares as long as he's definitely a Nara?" Would non-heterosexual relationships be remarked upon as "ultimately useless, but if it keeps you happy enough to keep doing missions for the village, who cares? Maybe sire one or two out of clan duty, if you're particularly loyal."

The Nara are said to be particularly open-minded in that they actively have policies for these unique circumstances, but what about unwritten rules of conduct? Unspoken cultural agreements? Other clans might not advertise it as openly or as publicly as the Nara (except maybe the Hyuuga, because even Hinata admits that the Hyuuga Clan's cultural perception of privacy is skewed a bit due to their bloodline) but I guarantee you that all of the other clans have some sort of similar thing going on --whether they like it or not, whether they'll admit to it or not. It's too practical and too rewarding for them to reject it out of hand. And this iteration of the EN is a practical one, indeed.

Can we just chill with the power grabs and focus on building trust with the rest of Leaf while we all weather this crisis?

Isn't that what we're doing with Hazou's whole "let's save the clanless and work with the other clans to rebuild"? I mean, Hazou is basically leading the village's rebuilding effort single-handedly while the other clans turtle up in their ruined castles and try to rebuild their clan grounds. At least, we've only been told what he (and Ami, sorta) are doing for the village but I don't think that we're told much of what the other clans are doing. I think that it's safe to assume Asuma is doing... something since he's Hokage, but we haven't been told what.

Unless I'm forgetting. Which is possible. I'm functioning on very little sleep this week because of finals. Read the next chapter and typed this out as a break. Gonna go back to it.

Edit: I vote for...
[x] Previous Plan

Edit Two: Grammar and clarity of thought. Going to go take my last final!
 
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And, respectfully, i'm of the opinion the Haru part will backfire spectacularly unless Akane saves the situation: Haru hates clans, hates the difference between clan and clanless with the fury of a billion suns, offering resources is the equivalent of saying "Hey, you know the things i robbed you(and all clanless)of? I'm gonna use those as a blackmail material to make you join us, and work for us, aren't i lovely and kind?". In short, we're the rich guy that goes to the family he forced on the brink of poverty and ask for service in exchange for helping them. Even if it works, he will resent us.

We don't know if Haru is that kind of a person aside from being prideful. Maybe we could be more cautious in offering help and resources.
 
We don't know if Haru is that kind of a person aside from being prideful. Maybe we could be more cautious in offering help and resources.

IIRC He explicitly found insulting our attempts trying to buy his face in chunin exam(And his dignity) and implicitly told us that he didn't have a price like the others. Also, we have the whole discussion with Akane about how much he feels on the Clan/Clanless divide. I mean, it's true that we don't know, but we don't know in the same way we didn't know that Orochimaru would reduce us to incoherent mess when we proposed the rebranding, AKA in hindsight it was very probable.
 
As for the other two... why? Why are we stuffing our clown car of a clan with even more crazy and known sources of drama? We have enough shinies for now and we just got a lesson taught to us about reaching above our station WRT trying to secure more summoning scrolls for ourselves. We nearly got kill boxed again. Can we just chill with the power grabs and focus on building trust with the rest of Leaf while we all weather this crisis? Keeping what we have and not pissing off even more people should be our top priority. In a way we were extremely lucky that Hiashi never found out Hazou was seriously planning on using implied treason as a bargaining chip against his legally elected kage (even if he was (RIP) an asshole). We aren't going to get that lucky twice, especially after the ultimatum that Naruto gave us.
I agree that adopting Aya is a good choice and I also agree about being leery about Haru until we know we can get him on the same wavelenth as us or otherwise not be a constant source of drama, but I think Kaiyo's still fine to adopt.

She's got problems, for sure, but they look like problems that we can actually help with, that she recognizes as problems and just can't fix on her own. If we stutter and flounder on helping her, then she's just the drunkard in the corner being a tiny drain on our finances until we figure out how to help her out of her spiral, and if we succeed on helping her then not only do we get the full benefit of having such an exemplary ninja in our clan but we'd finally score a proper win on 'help this person overcome their mental demons'-type problems.

The challenge, of course, is our lack of adoption slots. I'm open to consulting Mari on whether raising the adoption limit is feasible, but apart from that rather than do anything clever I'd prefer we just do something so acceptable the Hyuuga were planning to do it: buy adoption slots from other clans. There are plenty of clans neutral to us and generally fond of money that we could negotiate a simple payment to clear the way for adopting Aya and Kaiyo even if our second slot is going to Yuno.

I fully share your sentiment about not reaching above our station, which is why I vehemently oppose attempts to pilfer the Dog Scroll for ourselves, but in this case I don't think we need to reach above our station to get what we want, so I'm all for it.
 
I agree that adopting Aya is a good choice and I also agree about being leery about Haru until we know we can get him on the same wavelenth as us or otherwise not be a constant source of drama, but I think Kaiyo's still fine to adopt.

Personally i feel the opposite, we need loyal and trustworthy people, because otherwise we end with, well, what happened with Naruto. Haru, once he sees the possibility to change the world(The possibility that lies in Uplift/Goketsu) could be fiercely loyal to uplift. The other are unknowns.
 
She's got problems, for sure, but they look like problems that we can actually help with, that she recognizes as problems and just can't fix on her own. If we stutter and flounder on helping her, then she's just the drunkard in the corner being a tiny drain on our finances until we figure out how to help her out of her spiral, and if we succeed on helping her then not only do we get the full benefit of having such an exemplary ninja in our clan but we'd finally score a proper win on 'help this person overcome their mental demons'-type problems.

I disagree here: she's not just "the drunkard in the corner"; she will be the drunk ninja now in our corner. She at the very least has chakra enhanced strength and whenever she is drunk, and therefore has lowered inhibitions, she will cause property damage if she does not have a ninja handler to restrain her. This isn't something we can pawn off onto a civilian as their default response for interacting with ninjas is "Please don't kill me, sir/ma'am" and the average ninja views civilians as talking cattle. If we adopt her and have a KEI ninja help her it will only further alienate us from the KEI as it is painfully obvious that we value this one drunk over adopting any of them. So why should any KEI ninja be loyal to us, the Goketsu, if that is the only thing they have to offer? We can't afford to alienate the people already working for us for the chance of redeeming one drunk ninja: it's too much to risk for too little of a potential reward (namely, more shinies (technique hacking) that we do not need).

Getting her clean will take time and all of that will require one of our teammates to handle (maybe more than one since no one on our team has experience helping to rehabilitate addicts). Even if we can get and keep her sober she will still be a ninja going through alcohol withdrawal symptoms and those symptoms are nothing to scoff at. There is nothing that adopting her would accomplish for us that helps us if we accidentally make treasonous sounds again. She will not be a small side project and after she becomes our problem we will have to take responsibility for her no matter how bad it gets. She is far too high of an opportunity cost for us to adopt her in our 'almost got kill-boxed again' social climate when we could be pursuing objectives specifically to restore our neighbors' faith and trust in us.

While it would be nice to have her fully rehabilitated and working for us we do not need her. We need allies and the loyalty of the people working with and for us. We need to be working on our reputation so that we never get kill boxed again. We need to work with Leaf to finish clearing up the damage from the surprise attack. All of these actions prove our loyalty to our new home. Making a power grab while rationalizing it to ourselves and everyone else that it will eventually be a net positive does not.
 
I'm open to consulting Mari on whether raising the adoption limit is feasible, but apart from that rather than do anything clever I'd prefer we just do something so acceptable the Hyuuga were planning to do it: buy adoption slots from other clans.
Why not outright buy a number of these clans? Some of them are poor and have one-three people, meaning the problem of taking over them could be reduced to buying the souls of one-three individuals. We have Mari and tons of liquid assets. Let's assimilate them.
She at the very least has chakra enhanced strength and whenever she is drunk, and therefore has lowered inhibitions, she will cause property damage if she does not have a ninja handler to restrain her.
Do we have reason to believe she becomes violent whenever she's drunk? I do think that's something Noburi would have mentioned.
 
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While it would be nice to have her fully rehabilitated and working for us we do not need her. We need allies and the loyalty of the people working with and for us. We need to be working on our reputation so that we never get kill boxed again. We need to work with Leaf to finish clearing up the damage from the surprise attack. All of these actions prove our loyalty to our new home. Making a power grab while rationalizing it to ourselves and everyone else that it will eventually be a net positive does not.
Now, I'm sympathetic to your viewpoint but I think it's rather uncharitable to cast this idea as merely a power grab. Yes, Technique Hacking is a shiny, but no, this is not a matter of us trying to get one over on other clans. I can personally attest that a sizeable fraction of my desire to adopt Kaiyo is altrustic desire to help her, and another sizeable chunk is the potential for advancing Uplift she might provide in the long run. Making the Goketsu stronger for its own sake honestly hadn't even crossed my mind.

I could quibble with you more on whether or not Kaiyo's apparent ability to not get arrested for drunken barfights (else she would be a drunkard and a criminal) and whatnot suggests that we don't actually need to dedicate a minder to her 24/7, or that we can both advance our altruistic disaster relief and reputation-building and help out Kaiyo, but honestly I don't think continuing this topic would be good for you right now. You're expressing enough invective that I'm worried we might lose the peaceful atmosphere of cooperative debate if this keeps up.

(In the spirit of full honesty, by tracing my own emotions I can tell that one or two posts similar to your most recent one would tip me over the edge into angry arguing, so that's another part of why I think we should back off from this for a while)
 
As far as i can understand, the current plan being voted to continue is this, so i will leave my humble opinion.




And, respectfully, i'm of the opinion the Haru part will backfire spectacularly unless Akane saves the situation: Haru hates clans, hates the difference between clan and clanless with the fury of a billion suns, offering resources is the equivalent of saying "Hey, you know the things i robbed you(and all clanless)of? I'm gonna use those as a blackmail material to make you join us, and work for us, aren't i lovely and kind?". In short, we're the rich guy that goes to the family he forced on the brink of poverty and ask for service in exchange for helping them. Even if it works, he will resent us.

Personally i would propose something along these line(albeit i admit it's too long):

Haru(Akane takes point): Point out the unfairness of the world(Concentrate on the Civilians/Clanless/Clans divide), offer yourself as a peer that wants to change the world(Not superior), a comrade with the power to start changing it.
-You're not inviting him in Goketsu, you're inviting in Uplift, to make Leaf(and the world) better than it is.
-Be yourself, it will probably be the only thing that convinces him
-Important, frame any physical offer you make as a first step to change things, not a way to buy his loyalty
-Don't use monetary offers primarily to convince him, he'll see it as an insult.
-What others alternatives does he have?Be the next Jiraiya and what?
-Check with Mari to say nothing that sounds like treason.


About the "Change the law about adoption numbers"...i would actually wait to have people ready to accept, so that the other clan won't take talented clanless from us. If tomorrow the Nara adopt both Noda and Aya, for example, we remain with nothing. So i would wait to propose the law until we have at least 3/5 possible adoption candidates that accepted.
Also, for the future, we still need to reach out to Minori(?)(The traumatized Jonin that we actually know would be ok with Uplift) in a serious manner, if someone is interested.

@MMKII I kinda agree with the idea of not asking for more slots until we have people in mind who we think are good ideas. Especially since we can still adopt one more, we haven't even met with them, and we can help/integrate them all some without even adopting them yet. Even if Kaiyo doesn't join, leaf getting an exemplary chunin back who feels grateful to us is upside for everyone who isn't Rock right now.

Maybe have that section more as pitching it to Mari/Noburi/the clan first? They might not enjoy a larger influx of people all at once, and we don't want the new additions to feel like second class clan citizens. Plus, Ami did warn about bringing in too many people too fast, and we should totally always listen to Ami ^.^
 
Personally i feel the opposite, we need loyal and trustworthy people, because otherwise we end with, well, what happened with Naruto. Haru, once he sees the possibility to change the world(The possibility that lies in Uplift/Goketsu) could be fiercely loyal to uplift. The other are unknowns.

Trust and loyalty takes time to cultivate. That's not going to happen with anyone we adopted because the clan's preexisting relationships are too damn small, or haven't enough time to mature, or both.
 
Was Yoshino stated to be civilian? *checks* Huh. So she was. Okay, I guess it happens once in a long while. That doesn't answer the main question though -- how would adopting Yoshino mean that Shikaku was now in your clan?

We'd adopt the civvie. Civvie is now fully Gouketsu. Bob is married to Alice, we adopt Bob through marriage to Alice. Bob is now in the same position as Keiko, dual clan-ship.

It lets the clan nin use our techniques while still honoring both the letter and spirit of the deal with the pangolins. From their perspective, we're just using the techniques as leverage to grow the clan. As an authoritarian religious dictatorship, I model them as approving heavily of that.

On the leaf side, we're doing everything we can to strengthen leaf bar disbanding the clan. Unless my model is severely off, everyone should like this.
 
The shinobi world has legends of what happens when mortals attempt to exploit powers beyond their comprehension. They say that after what they saw in the lifeless
Shinobi: We shouldn't meddle with things we don't really understand, it would be foolish and likely to get us all killed.

Also Shinobi: Let's hack reality itself by writing on paper with magic ink! How does it actually work? How the hell would I know
 
We'd adopt the civvie. Civvie is now fully Gouketsu. Bob is married to Alice, we adopt Bob through marriage to Alice. Bob is now in the same position as Keiko, dual clan-ship.

It lets the clan nin use our techniques while still honoring both the letter and spirit of the deal with the pangolins. From their perspective, we're just using the techniques as leverage to grow the clan. As an authoritarian religious dictatorship, I model them as approving heavily of that.

On the leaf side, we're doing everything we can to strengthen leaf bar disbanding the clan. Unless my model is severely off, everyone should like this.
Speaking only for myself, not WOG, and all of this is just my offhand thoughts so it could change:

I'd need to think more on this and talk with @Velorien and @OliWhail, but it seems weird and dubious. Adopting only one half of a married couple...is that a thing? Regardless, it would be pretty clear that you're trying to skirt around the "adoption slots" rules in order to get more ninja.

I suppose it would be a little better if you adopted Alice and then she and Bob got married. There would be some timing issues -- if the adoption is at 12:01pm and the marriage is at 12:02 then people are going to be unamused and I have no idea what an acceptable interval would be, but it would definitely be measured in months, not days or weeks.

Basically, the reason you're proposing this is so that you can get more ninja than you have adoption slots. That's not going to change because of clever rules-lawyering, and the only question is how people would respond.
 
We shouldn't expect rule-lawyering to work. Or at least, we have to be prepared to deal with the political consequences.
 
Basically, the reason you're proposing this is so that you can get more ninja than you have adoption slots. That's not going to change because of clever rules-lawyering, and the only question is how people would respond.
Nah, he's trying to cheat the pabgolin deal without actually breaking the exact rules.

It's a bad idea because the pangolins aren't stupid.
 
Edit Two: Grammar and clarity of thought. Going to go take my last final!

Good luck. Make the hivemind proud as we all know you can.

Now, I'm sympathetic to your viewpoint but I think it's rather uncharitable to cast this idea as merely a power grab. Yes, Technique Hacking is a shiny, but no, this is not a matter of us trying to get one over on other clans. I can personally attest that a sizeable fraction of my desire to adopt Kaiyo is altrustic desire to help her, and another sizeable chunk is the potential for advancing Uplift she might provide in the long run. Making the Goketsu stronger for its own sake honestly hadn't even crossed my mind.
From my point of view I saw the arguments as 'we both agree that we have an altruistic desire to help other people in Leaf' therefore we can move on from that point and discuss the pros and cons of the differences between adopting this one person as you want to do and my desire to focus more on our clan's reputation. I also respectively disagree that we can afford to spend our time on multiple projects since there is so much to do after the attack, there are only so many people in our clan, and there are only 24 hours in a day even for ninja. From there it seems to me that the choice becomes focusing on long term projects or short term survival.

I could quibble with you more on whether or not Kaiyo's apparent ability to not get arrested for drunken barfights (else she would be a drunkard and a criminal) and whatnot suggests that we don't actually need to dedicate a minder to her 24/7, or that we can both advance our altruistic disaster relief and reputation-building and help out Kaiyo, but honestly I don't think continuing this topic would be good for you right now. You're expressing enough invective that I'm worried we might lose the peaceful atmosphere of cooperative debate if this keeps up.
My choice of words and tone was more of a way to express my exasperation with the hivemind at large and not you in particular. My apologies.

(In the spirit of full honesty, by tracing my own emotions I can tell that one or two posts similar to your most recent one would tip me over the edge into angry arguing, so that's another part of why I think we should back off from this for a while)

(I'll try my best to reciprocate your spirit. In (on?) self reflection I am uncertain if I allowed outside emotions (as in emotions caused by events outside of MfD) influence my previous posts. Those issues are similar to the patterns of behavior I believe I keep seeing here, in the hivemind's eventual actions, and there and both slowly build up my frustration over time. While thinking and posting about this has been somewhat cathartic and helpful for me I won't put my own mumblings/venting ahead of your well being. I'll refrain from quoting you for awhile after this if you so wish while I pursue productive lines of thought elsewhere that hopefully won't upset anyone else. Again, I'm sorry for what happened: no malice was intended even if it might have leaked out.)
 
Speaking only for myself, not WOG, and all of this is just my offhand thoughts so it could change:

I'd need to think more on this and talk with @Velorien and @OliWhail, but it seems weird and dubious. Adopting only one half of a married couple...is that a thing? Regardless, it would be pretty clear that you're trying to skirt around the "adoption slots" rules in order to get more ninja.

I suppose it would be a little better if you adopted Alice and then she and Bob got married. There would be some timing issues -- if the adoption is at 12:01pm and the marriage is at 12:02 then people are going to be unamused and I have no idea what an acceptable interval would be, but it would definitely be measured in months, not days or weeks.

Basically, the reason you're proposing this is so that you can get more ninja than you have adoption slots. That's not going to change because of clever rules-lawyering, and the only question is how people would respond.

This is all for adopting other clan ninja, not clanless. Unless things changed there aren't any restrictions on adopting clan ninja
 
Why not outright buy a number of these clans? Some of them are poor and have one-three people, meaning the problem of taking over them could be reduced to buying the souls of one-three individuals. We have Mari and tons of liquid assets. Let's assimilate them.
Previous plan has this:
If unfeasible, seek non-voting clans that would be amicable towards selling their adoption slots.
Which seems to be what you're looking for. Maybe this should be the main line play.
 
Could we replicate the sinkhole attack on Cloud or Rock? Looking at the wikipedia article on sink holes, there doesn't seem to be anything special required. We have tunneling jutsu, digging jutsu, the pangolins, and presumably byakugan surveillance of those villages from when they hosted chunin exams which could be supplemented with present skywalker surveillance. Having instigated the attack, Rock may have defenses prepared against a retaliatory strike, but I doubt they would have bothered to protect every building(especially if they relied on a specific clan's ability to expedite the attack) and any defenses would probably still be vulnerable to byakugan plus Aburame tampering.
  • 3 relevant jutsu
    • Excavation
      • Leaves a permanent tunnel. For making the sinkholes once the team is already in position.
      • Lasts 1 minute, let's you move Aspect/2 zones per round, leaving behind a 2 meter diameter tunnel. Costs 36CP at effect 3.
      • Doesn't seem like a bottleneck for the plan. Not too expensive on chakra and the pangolins may have an even better version(the human version was translated to the new system from the old one but the pangolin version wasn't since we didn't choose it).
      • Can do several practice runs in the summon realm or somewhere in Leaf that has similar geological composition as Rock. Safer to try with clones or summons.
    • Hiding Like a Mole
      • For getting into position to create the sinkholes.
      • As the Excavation Technique, but 6CP cheaper. Must hold breath underground and can't take large objects or others with you. At Aspect 3 and 20 rounds per minute, that lets you travel 60 zones per 30CP, which we can work backward from to determine how close we need to be able to get to Rock undetected before switching to burrowing.
      • Noburi can help extend this distance, as well as electing to spend several days underground, waiting for chakra to replenish before pressing further.
      • Ideally, the whole team would travel together but could use a Hyuga spotter, tunnel to the edge of their range, excavate a hole back to them, repeat. Shouldn't be too hard to find an earth element Hyuga with HLaM 1 or teach it to them, but we'd want a Hyuga with lots of byakugan range.
      • A very large pangolin would be easier to detect, but might be able to carry a person as 'not a large object.'
    • Living Roots
      • Adds 3 times technique effect to Alertness when still and allows you to sense vibrations through the ground. Lasts 1 minute, costing 32CP at effect 3. Not explicit how far this lets you sense, but it's the only example available for what kind of sensory techniques/seals Rock might have that we'd need to fool.
      • At Alertness 60, LR 60, a ninja could have Alertness 240. Hard to gauge what this means, but if there's a pangolin of similar ability, we can practice the operation against their senses.
      • Lots of other small things we could do, I'm sure, like sending out burrowing chakra beasts and seeing at what range they get detected.
      • Would want to account for them periodically burrowing down a ways before activating LR, not just using it from the surface.
If we desired to screw over other nations, there are better ways to do it than targetting specific buildings.

For instance, as we discussed last night on discord, hydroengineering. A fascinating and new realm of warfare, that. What do you think happens when a nation's farmland abruptly starts getting about half as much water? Or a river stops being usable as a trade route?

Such a shame that for unknowable reasons that river that split into two stopped flowing as strongly toward the farmland of Rock and simultaneously -- and for no reason related to the Tama's difficulty with considering multiple things at once -- the other rivers in Rock have a sudden problem with murderfish.
 
Can we adopt Kagome's student? She's a promising, top-of-her-class student and she's bound to become a great ninja. Furthermore, since she's loyal to Kagome, we can bind her to Team Uplift pretty easily. And as a civilian-born ninja, she's likely to already believe in most/all of Hazou's equality ideas.
 
Can we adopt Kagome's student? She's a promising, top-of-her-class student and she's bound to become a great ninja. Furthermore, since she's loyal to Kagome, we can bind her to Team Uplift pretty easily. And as a civilian-born ninja, she's likely to already believe in most/all of Hazou's equality ideas.
You can, but it will use up your only remaining adoption slot for the year.
 
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