Apparently, there is a tribunal for settling the debates. Which means that in 3 years, when we would want to cancel/alter the deal, Uchiha would say 'we don't wanna' and go to tribunal with the case. And, the sad thing, they would be absolutely right to do so, since we would have been already agreed on the deal's terms and then one-sidedly decide to flip the table.

[x] Action Plan: Second Opinion, Please?

Yes, so we have a second avenue of attack (bribe or stack said tribunal) if offering them something else of incredible value doesn't pan out.
 
Yeah...I ended up cutting almost everything from the old plan to make room for the Mari discussion. It would be a mite unfair for such major changes to happen...so I just made another plan.

Word Count: 296

[X] Action Plan: Mari's Deal
Timeline: Immediately after Chapter 271.
  • Mari:
    • Thank her for her help.
    • Discuss the Hagoromo & Uchiha deals.
      • Uchiha deal:
        • What's the fallout from our Leaf allies/Mist?
        • We have possible changes: How willing are the Uchiha to budge? What will it cost?
          1. An out for the girls that stop giving consent.
          2. An active role in raising the kids.
          3. More spaced-out pregnancies, for the girls' safety.
          4. Some way to keep IN in the Gouketsu.
      • We tentatively agree, but want to hear the clan's thoughts.
  • The Mari situation:
    • Thoughts:
      • TLitF's exact mechanics and her eye color changing appear to be related. Whenever she's used TLitF in the past, her eyes changed (grey to blue to green).
      • Since her 'recovery', her eyes've changed color rapidly: green to brown to purple to green.
      • TLitF's 'price' has been implied to negatively affect her mind. Could it be related to her recovery?
    • Tomorrow morning, discuss with Noburi & Akane (high-security room).
      • Akane: What happened in Leaf while we were gone? Anything related to Mari?
      • Fill them in fully, including our thoughts and private conversations with Mari.
        • Note: TLitF might get us killbox'd. Don't spread the information around.
      • Ask their thoughts. Surely she isn't acting against our interests, but you're worried she's running some self-sacrificial ploy...unless TLitF makes her temporarily sociopathic? You're unsure; did she act a bit off after Tea?
  • Fill Akane in on land-clearing, as per our note.
    • Include discussion on finding buyers; ways to improve the land, such as irrigation; as well as possible profits, like from chakra monster parts and lumber.
    • Ask her to offer Tsunade ~25% profit if she'll help with legal/political problems.
  • Send invitations for later this week:
    • Shikamaru: Discuss Nara rebuilding/construction assistance.
    • Team Nakano & Jinno: Offer them retainership.
  • Continue scribing Skywalkers in our spare time.
@faflec did you remove /not include the bit where we explicitly do not sign this deal? I don't think "tentatively agree" is enough.
 
There's probably no place/time in any of current plans, but in one of future update we really need to declare some things a clan secret, so that our clanmates +Keiko knew what we consider important and secret information.

Also, we need Ishihara's drilled in OPSEC protocols - they are not used to it, even Akane had a few months of leisury time in terms of keeping things secret.

Also also, we should start all conversations with Keiko with "consider following a Gouketsu Clan Secret". Just to annoy Shikamaru if anything:p
 
Also also, we should start all conversations with Keiko with "consider following a Gouketsu Clan Secret". Just to annoy Shikamaru if anything:p

HAZOU: Keiko, consider the following a Goketsu Clan Secret: Nice weather we have today, don't we?

KEIKO: Consider the following a Promise of Disproportionate Violence Should You Continue: Hello.

HAZOU:
 
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@faflec did you remove /not include the bit where we explicitly do not sign this deal? I don't think "tentatively agree" is enough.
Ugh. Changing.
Yeah...I ended up cutting almost everything from the old plan to make room for the Mari discussion. It would be a mite unfair for such major changes to happen...so I just made another plan.

Word Count: 299

[X] Action Plan: Mari's Deal
Timeline: Immediately after Chapter 271.
  • Mari:
    • Thank her for her help.
    • Discuss the Hagoromo & Uchiha deals.
      • Uchiha deal:
        • What's the fallout from our Leaf allies/Mist?
        • We have possible changes: How willing are the Uchiha to budge? What'll it cost?
          1. An out for the girls that stop giving consent.
          2. An active role in raising the kids.
          3. More spaced-out pregnancies, for the girls' safety.
          4. Some way to keep IN in the Gouketsu.
      • We tentatively agree, but want to hear the clan's thoughts before we accept. Don't sign yet!
  • The Mari situation:
    • Thoughts:
      • TLitF seems to be related to her eye color changing. Whenever she's used TLitF in the past, her eyes changed (grey to blue to green).
      • Since her 'recovery', her eyes've changed color rapidly: green to brown to purple to green.
      • TLitF's 'price' has been implied to negatively affect her mind. Could it be related to her recovery?
    • Tomorrow morning, discuss with Noburi & Akane (high-security room).
      • Akane: What happened in Leaf while we were gone? Anything related to Mari?
      • Fill them in fully, including our thoughts and private conversations with Mari.
        • Note: TLitF might get us killbox'd. Don't spread the information around.
      • Ask their thoughts. Surely she isn't acting against our interests, but you're worried she's running some self-sacrificial ploy...unless TLitF makes her temporarily sociopathic? You're unsure; did she act a bit off after Tea?
  • Fill Akane in on land-clearing, as per our note.
    • Include discussion on finding buyers; ways to improve the land, such as irrigation; as well as possible profits, like from chakra monster parts and lumber.
    • Ask her to offer Tsunade ~25% profit if she'll help with legal/political problems.
  • Send invitations for later this week:
    • Shikamaru: Discuss Nara rebuilding/construction assistance.
    • Team Nakano & Jinno: Offer them retainership.
  • Continue scribing Skywalkers in our spare time.
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Voting is closed.

Due to ongoing spoon-related reasons, this week's update is going to be an interlude. Last-minute suggestions welcome.
 
Voting is closed.

Due to ongoing spoon-related reasons, this week's update is going to be an interlude. Last-minute suggestions welcome.

  • Akamaru gets out of the Inuzuka compound for an early morning walk, Fifi and/or the albino chakra fox save him from a squirrel.
  • Whatever Hana is up to
  • Naruto is Totally Okay and Absolutely Not in A Bunker Having his Third Breakdown
  • Neji remains Super-de-Duper Grounded.
  • Kenta mulls over Hazou's recent actions.
 
While I'm thinking about it...

PSA: July 14 will almost certainly be an Interlude.

I'm at a tech conference from July 9-15, so won't have a full day for writing. We'll still have voting but it's very unlikely that I'll end up doing the plan.
 
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Jiraiya reacts to Hazou's harem from the afterlife.

Why? He can tell us in person later.

While I'm thinking about it...

PSA: July 12 will almost certainly be an Interlude.

I'm at a tech conference from July 9-15, so won't have a full day for writing. We'll still have voting but it's very unlikely that I'll end up doing the plan.

July 12 is Friday. Did you mean July 14?

Also, can we get a Lore Update if we manage to propose topic beforehand?
 
Semi-hypothetical question for the QMs: If we were under Infinite Tsukiyomi, or had a complete mental break, or were otherwise in an inescapable-from-the-inside illusion where our decisions would have no impact on the real world, would we still vote on things?
Yes, you would still vote. No, we would not tell you that you were in those conditions.

July 12 is Friday. Did you mean July 14?
Yes.

Also, can we get a Lore Update if we manage to propose topic beforehand?
You may certainly vote for one. Lore updates are always suggestions, so I might or might not use it, but if it's fun to write and there's significant interest then I'm more likely to do it.
 
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The problem with verifying consent the old-fashioned way is that these girls are completely in Hazo's power. They are civilians, he is a ninja. They are clan members, he is Clan Head. To all practical purposes, they are slaves. They might indeed consent--or they might just fake consent really well out of fear.
Well, one of our primary goals for the next three years should be establishing an atmosphere in Clan Gōketsu such that every member knows that yes, the clan head is in charge, but no, clan members are not slaves. It should be clear to all our new clan members that we will never force anyone who doesn't consent to sleep with someone, or to get pregnant. This may be a new concept for them, but we have three years to get the word out, and also to make it clear that we will protect Gouketsu clan members from any potential threats from outside the clan (ie repercussions from annoyed Uchihas).
 
PSA: Newsflash! International scene heats up! Hokage election imminent! A messenger has just arrived setting the date and time for the Hokage election: 9 a.m., eight mornings from the end of chapter 271. Things are dragging, and we want to move them along. You have 7 days, each consisting of 3 slots (morning, afternoon, evening). You get one action per slot, with the QMs filling in any unused time in whatever way we think best. If your chosen action is "have a 5 minute conversation", we'll fill in the remaining 4-ish hours.

Tomorrow's update will be an interlude, with the slot-based approach going into effect thereafter. 300-word plan rules still apply.
 
the date and time for the Hokage election: 9 a.m., eight mornings from the end of chapter 271

Oh, Jashin's blessings, that's very good! I've been worried that Hokage election may come and pass while we do something absolutely not related, like salt project or scribing seals. And that's a lot of time actually!

@Velorien, should each Action Plan use all 3 slots (describe the whole day) XOR if we put only 2 slots in plan the chapter will end there and we will be able to use last slot of the day for the next update?
 
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