Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Emstar
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Cheer up! Maybe the Hyuuga or one of their lackeys will be the ones who Accidentally themselves!
KAGOME: There used to be a technique called substitution that was one of the basic two techniques taught in every academy--
NOBURI: You mean the basic one?
MARI: A reactive-teleport technique would be an S-rank defence that every combat spec would be after. It would be hoarded by the clan that invented it.
KAGOME: There used to be a technique called clone that was taught in every academy.
NOBURI: You mean the basic zero?
MARI: Sounds like fake news but okay.
KAGOME: ffs
NOBURI: You mean the basic one?
MARI: A reactive-teleport technique would be an S-rank defence that every combat spec would be after. It would be hoarded by the clan that invented it.
KAGOME: There used to be a technique called clone that was taught in every academy.
NOBURI: You mean the basic zero?
MARI: Sounds like fake news but okay.
KAGOME: ffs
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No, no. That's like a 3. We're fiiine. (ohgodswe'reallgonnadie)
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At the risk of being snarky...HDK.
*rolls*
Yeaaaah...about that.
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Out of curiosity, how are you deciding who triggers the failure? Rolling against a table somewhere?
Edit: Oh also @eaglejarl shame on you. 51-100 are positive outcomes!? But so much more of the state space is bad. The table to should probably be more like:
- 1 ~= Major Threat to a city / Minor threats to reality on a local scale
- 2 ~= Major Threat to a large fraction of a city
- 4 ~= Major Threat to a few blocks of a city
- 20 ~= Major threat to the Sealmaster or nearby buildings
- 50 ~= Minor threat to Sealmaster or nearby area
- 70 ~= Harmful but not threatening effect
- 80 ~= Neutral effect / Confusing scrambling
- 90 ~= Minor positive effect for single individual
- 95 ~= Minor Positive effect to a larger population / Major positive effect for an individual
- 99 ~= Major positive effect to a larger population
Not really, it makes sense that a failure happens when a pile of sealmasters are exerting themselves to learn how to make skywalkers.
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Usually I am clearly the asshole in these type of interactions, but this time I don't think I deserved that. Not only was this pretty much the first time I commented about this subject (at least in 2019 as far as I recall), the "I still don't understand" was also meant to be read as written.
That may be true. But this is the first time I see it explained so clearly. Which may be due to nothing that has to do with you though, seeing how there are whole swathes of comment pages I overflew due to lack of time. I try to read all QM posts of any kind, bit that too is true only since I returned somewhere after the hiatus is over.
In any case, I genuinely didn't understand how A doesn't equal B, and now I do. So thank you for that.
This on the other hand sounds perfectly fair and simulationist. Though maybe you then also should keep track of the chances of sealing failure big enough to be relevant to us happening in another ninja nation. Especially right now where Sand and Mist are trying to reverse engineer skywalkers while Cloud and Rock may well be engaged in novel sealing research based simply on intel their Kages sent home before croaking.
Who is the current highest authority with actual access to this kind of stuff. Is it HDK? If yes, how hard would it be to find out?
Hiashi, in a Hospital bed: "Oh man I am so bored just lying around in this hospital bed. Oh I know! I'll use this downtime to get back into my old hobby! With all this clan head buisiness I haven't had the chance to practice in years!"
*pulls out a brush and sealing paper*
TaliesinSkye
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That sounded small to me too. Went to the source, this was the citation:
Mikiso Hane, Peasants, Rebels, & Outcastes: The Underside of Modern Japan (New York: Pantheon Books, 1982) 6.
Turns out one Cho (2.45 acres) was the average amount of land a peasant family owned for themselves over and above the land they were assigned to farm for the Shogun or Daimyo. So that solves the mystery. While the Shogun and Daimyo's land wasn't for sale, they could get land of their own by reclaiming wasteland or getting land from other farmers who fell into debt.
Here's the page:
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I ran a reverse raffle. All the sealmasters in Leaf got put in the hat and each was given a number of "Not it!" tickets equal to their skill level. Keep picking names and throwing out tickets until you get someone with no tickets left.
It's not a perfect system and there are arguments to be made against it, but it's good enough that I'm using it for this one instance. In future we might do something different.
That's fair. Sorry for snapping at you on this one.
Good point, thank you.
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Not a question! (Also, HDK.)
Yes.
HDK.
Check that the book is using the correct historical definitions. The definition of a chō changed over time, by quite a lot. I made the same mistake when I first started playing with these numbers.That sounded small to me too. Went to the source, this was the citation:
Mikiso Hane, Peasants, Rebels, & Outcastes: The Underside of Modern Japan (New York: Pantheon Books, 1982) 6.
Turns out one Cho (2.45 acres) was the average amount of land a peasant family owned for themselves over and above the land they were assigned to farm for the Shogun or Daimyo. So that solves the mystery. While the Shogun and Daimyo's land wasn't for sale, they could get land of their own by reclaiming wasteland or getting land from other farmers who fell into debt.
Here's the page:
GENIN McSEALINGLEVELONE: Oh boy! I just got my first sealing assignment! All I need to do is infuse this explosive tag!
THE CHAOS GODS: Hi there. ^_^
TaliesinSkye
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2.45 acres was the definition the front of the book gave. I'm presuming it's accurate for the Tokugawa period the book is discussing.
Emstar
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I'm happy the Name McName notation has caught on!!
Cariyaga
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Urist McDwarf would be proud.
Wrong era.
TaliesinSkye
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Wrong era for what? The figure? Relating to Elemental Nations economics? I need a little more to go on here to understand your comment.
'...and then in an effort to create a Caged Bird Seal he could remotely apply to troublesome Clanless, Animals and Gouketsu Hiashi turned his entire clan into monstrosities except for himself, his daughters and...' *rolls dice* 'two infants and a toddler'.
*rolls more dice*
'Even Kagome doesn't know what they are.'
*rolls more dice*
'Even Kagome doesn't know what they are.'
You want Heian era or whereabout
TaliesinSkye
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Okay, but why do I want that era? What's the difference between farming yields between the two?
I'm not going to keep dragging complete thoughts out of you to have a conversation, it's frankly not a productive use of my time.
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Heian period - Wikipedia
Presumably because the Heian period was in the hole economically, but I'm not an expert.
TaliesinSkye
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Without him explaining his reasoning all we can do is guess, and I'm not of a mind to take vague statements and try to construct someone else's argument for them. I already did that dance last night with someone else in the thread.
Evenstar
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That sounded small to me too. Went to the source, this was the citation:
Mikiso Hane, Peasants, Rebels, & Outcastes: The Underside of Modern Japan (New York: Pantheon Books, 1982) 6.
Turns out one Cho (2.45 acres) was the average amount of land a peasant family owned for themselves over and above the land they were assigned to farm for the Shogun or Daimyo. So that solves the mystery. While the Shogun and Daimyo's land wasn't for sale, they could get land of their own by reclaiming wasteland or getting land from other farmers who fell into debt.
Here's the page:
Okay, possible. However, I also have a notably larger value for the size of a Cho. When in the Tokugawa period is this circa?