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True, but that's only if it's cast with a source (i.e., the ground). When !Mari used the technique, there wasn't a source to be seen.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
In this arc, the Goketsu put every salt merchant and their infrastructure out of business with their pure, technique-hacked sodium chloride.
Coincidentally, an entire generation of Land of Fire residents are crippled by iodine deficiency.
Look, I'll make this easy. If you want salt, you don't need EM or new seals. There are two ways to boil water. Raise the temperature, or lower the pressure. Put some salt water in a barrel, throw in a tunneler's friend, pull out freeze dried salt, empty and reuse the seal. This would also be a good way to compact and extreme-store food for civilians. You could probably use TFs and LBS to design a barrel which automatically desicated, salted, and froze anything inside when the lid was put on. It even makes ice too if you use a surplus of water. Heck, you're most of the way to a decent freezer and air conditioning unit.
Mari was just covering for her releasing a misterator full of toxin.
Coincidentally, an entire generation of Land of Fire residents are crippled by iodine deficiency.
Look, I'll make this easy. If you want salt, you don't need EM or new seals. There are two ways to boil water. Raise the temperature, or lower the pressure. Put some salt water in a barrel, throw in a tunneler's friend, pull out freeze dried salt, empty and reuse the seal. This would also be a good way to compact and extreme-store food for civilians. You could probably use TFs and LBS to design a barrel which automatically desicated, salted, and froze anything inside when the lid was put on. It even makes ice too if you use a surplus of water. Heck, you're most of the way to a decent freezer and air conditioning unit.
Mari was just covering for her releasing a misterator full of toxin.
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Jello_Raptor
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Maybe it does attempt to store the chakra construct poison, but vanishes it on input instead
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Oh, I thought of an advertising slogan: "Goketsu brand air conditioners- finally, sealtech which won't melt your face off!"
-or genjutsu prodigy Mari was screwing with everybody's heads.
-or genjutsu prodigy Mari was screwing with everybody's heads.
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Isn't doping salt with iodine a modern thing that was done to fight deficiencies, not something it naturally does? Looks like people normally get iodine through fish, dairy and grains. We probably just needed the doping in the modern day because our diets are awful.
This is clever. Really clever. It's a pity you need a ninja to operate the seals still, but if we get around that this has the potential to make the clan rich beyond all reason.
Unless we could teach a fair portion of civilians in how to use seals with their meagre but not non-existent reserves?
Hey, we could propose that Kagome try training a random civilian or three (maybe Akane's parents?) to activate seals to see if it's doable. What do you guys think?
Edit: Oh hey, we could also probably come up with alternatives to a barrel for bigger batches all at once. Like an air dome over an Earth Wall-lined hole. A five seal barrier would be even more durable. Is it possible to turn those on, off, and on again?
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail I feel that this information is outdated and/or contradicts more recent information regarding our seal licenses. Would it be possible to just delete it?
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You also don't need to boil seawater at all. Lower the temperature until the water freezes and dig the floting ice chunks out of the cistern. The salt content will mostly be left behind in a puddle of brine at the bottom. Dry that out.
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You, uh, have the wrong emphasis there.
"Goketsu brand air conditioners- finally, sealtech which won't melt your face off!"
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Use an implosion seal on the outside of the properly-protected container of seawater. Implosion seals take in air even if it'd be impossible for the air to get into the seal normally (e.g., inside an airtight barrel), so it'd be a much faster way of removing air from inside the barrel.
Unless the sudden removal would cause issues...?
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Now thats a cheat code.
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It'd be easier to set up if we use our own home, so I think using the Seventh Path to transport salt would be the best way to get salt en masse. Have either Noburi or Keiko get barrels, send them to the Seventh Path, and let the other one bring them back to the compound.
IIRC ninja have the right to request training missions, so we can use that as an excuse for Noburi leaving, if we don't want to go on a full mission or whatever. If we want to do it now, we can just prep a bunch of barrels in storage seals.
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Hey, y'know what the Akimichi would pay All The Money for? Ice cream. A clan supply and the ability to make their restaurants stand out by providing a unique treat which the richest of nobles might allow themselves to indulge in a few spoonfuls of every week. Let them build it into a neigh-mythical legend of refined ambrosia.
-then hand it out by the bucketfull during "kids eat free" day at a Goketsu charity festival and potluck for needy Leaf citizens.
@TarzanNn: what's my count-to-sage looking like?
Fortification is recent, but most salt sources, especially sea salt, contain iodine and were a historically important supply for people away from the ocean. Fish, dairy, and gains don't help you if your area just plain doesn't have much iodine.
-then hand it out by the bucketfull during "kids eat free" day at a Goketsu charity festival and potluck for needy Leaf citizens.
@TarzanNn: what's my count-to-sage looking like?
Fortification is recent, but most salt sources, especially sea salt, contain iodine and were a historically important supply for people away from the ocean. Fish, dairy, and gains don't help you if your area just plain doesn't have much iodine.
An issue might be Hazou et al. not knowing that low pressure can boil water.
At least I can't think of a reason why they would.
The knowledge itself might exist in the Nara library if nowhere else.
Meh. Vacuum is interesting. It's something which would be natural for him to poke at even if his sensai's signature seals didn't exploit it. The details of water vapor and condensation can be demonstrated with a glass bottle and a lit match. Guess who's had a lot of reason to ponder the dynamics and formation of fog and mist?
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I wouldn't dare attempting to slight so enlightened a prophet as your sagelyness.
Maybe we can trick Hazou into thinking it's a good idea to test what happens when you seal water and air, and expose the thing to a implosion seal somehow.
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I'd voice my agreement to the latter but not the former; I'm hesitant to put down a bunch of cash if we're already burning a giant hole in our pocket with the Hagoromo and don't know for certain how effective our money-making plans would be. It's not as if we can't do this later, anyway.
Regarding chatting up the mission desk...yes. We'd probably just slot it into the "we need manpower" section, since it's pretty much the same thing. The plan's tight, though; maybe we could delete one of the smaller discussion topics (e.g., funding Tsunade, weaponizing EM, Akatsuki...)?
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I mean the amount we would be dropping is pocket change compared to our actual expenses. This has huge long term benefits for minor cost.
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Is it? Honestly asking, I have no idea what our expenses are relative to how much we're planning on putting down. Economics is still grue'd
Edit: Oh yeah, if we do end up doing this we should alert Nakano and co., since we promised them we'd tell them about it IIRC.
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I wouldn't dare attempting to slight so enlightened a prophet as your sagelyness.
Maybe we can trick Hazou into thinking it's a good idea to test what happens when you deal water and air, and expose the thing to a implosion seal somehow.
It does sound like the sort of observation which would turn up during the development of stacked implosion nukes...
Is it? Honestly asking, I have no idea what our expenses are relative to how much we're planning on putting down. Economics is still grue'd
Fukkit, have Mari pay them in random chakrabeast bits.
"What am I supposed to do with three kilos of porcupine pancreas?"
"You mean you don't know? Nevermind, the accounting department clearly made a mistake and we'll happily just buy them back off you. 10,000 ryo, cash-in-hand, right this moment."
"Wait wait wait, I just meant that it's going to be hard to decide who to sell to first. Can't afford to offend partners and all that."
"100,000 ryo, offer expires immediately."
"I'm going to go now..."
"You mean you don't know? Nevermind, the accounting department clearly made a mistake and we'll happily just buy them back off you. 10,000 ryo, cash-in-hand, right this moment."
"Wait wait wait, I just meant that it's going to be hard to decide who to sell to first. Can't afford to offend partners and all that."
"100,000 ryo, offer expires immediately."
"I'm going to go now..."
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Which is one of the reasons I want to get this out together before we meet with them
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But wasn't the agreement to tell them that we're doing it first, so that they can grab them first?
Edit: Wait, do you mean that we're to talk about this with the clan? If so, I withdraw my concern.
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No I want to go to the mission desk and drop 100k on til'n'fils. Then the next day we tell Nakano and Co. about the mission. We never actually told them we'd let them know in advance.
Also we should try to find Ito at the mission desk. She seemed to like us