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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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TalonofAnathrax said:
Turns out there were more than 3 jonin in the original "suicide mission", and more than 3 jonin defectors. There was a fourth one who immediately got killed by a chakra alligator, and was then forgotten for the rest of the quest.
Amusingly, just a few lines later it says that "A small water burst under the surface would alarm the creatures enough to make them give away their position. Chakra-enhanced alligators were the apex predators of the swamp, but against experienced ninja? They were meat." :D
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The chakra alligator must have been Zabuza in a disguise kit.
 
MMKII said:
To the best of my knowledge nobody outside of Kurosawa clan, their confidants,and Team Uplift + Jiraiya know of this ability. Unless the Uchiha can do similar stuff to seals its not likely widespread info.
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And anyone intelligent to figure out that a Kurosawa sealmaster per generation is a statistical improbability, and the ability to realize its implications.
 
faflec said:
And anyone intelligent to figure out that a Kurosawa sealmaster per generation is a statistical improbability, and the ability to realize its implications.
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Is it? They're a large clan IIRC. Its no different than a Hyuuga/Nara/Yamanaka/Aburame sealmaster every generation. Old guard teaches the new generation.

Also: I think they have like... 4 data points on that so far? Could just be the same Old Sealmaster guy and his OP teaching techniques.
 
MMKII said:
Is it? They're a large clan IIRC. Its no different than a Hyuuga/Nara/Yamanaka/Aburame sealmaster every generation. Old guard teaches the new generation.

Also: I think they have like... 4 data points on that so far? Could just be the same Old Sealmaster guy and his OP teaching techniques.
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Yeah, it's not like someone needs some sort of rare talent to learn sealing. It could just be that the clan heads have leaned on someone every generation if need be.

I am curious how much is known about what the iron nerve does. If the public information is 'lets you mimic movements perfectly', then reproducing seals is something intelligence analysts in other villages might have thought of.
 
MMKII said:
It lets you survive explosions, apparently. So there's that.
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Pfft.

You know, in the long run we could double down on that, extrapolating all sort of absurd bullshit that it lets us do that it definitely doesn't do. We could also fake having weaknesses that we don't actually have just to catch people up at critical moments.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
Pfft.

You know, in the long run we could double down on that, extrapolating all sort of absurd bullshit that it lets us do that it definitely doesn't do. We could also fake having weaknesses that we don't actually have just to catch people up at critical moments.
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Yeah, I'm game for that.

We need to up our Chaos Quotient too.
 
faflec said:
And anyone intelligent to figure out that a Kurosawa sealmaster per generation is a statistical improbability, and the ability to realize its implications.
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Combined with what is publicly known about the Iron Nerve the benefits to sealcrafting and the potential for the entire clan to be able to print blanks without seal training is guessable, but I suspect that even Shikaku himself might struggle to take just that information all the way to "can perfectly and effortlessly memorize hundreds of seals per minute just by glancing at them."



TaliesinSkye said:
Pfft.

You know, in the long run we could double down on that, extrapolating all sort of absurd bullshit that it lets us do that it definitely doesn't do. We could also fake having weaknesses that we don't actually have just to catch people up at critical moments.
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"Kurosawa can trap you in hell or hack reality through interpretive dance."
 
Lailoken said:
Combined with what is publicly known about the Iron Nerve the benefits to sealcrafting and the potential for the entire clan to be able to print blanks without seal training is guessable, but I suspect that even Shikaku himself might struggle to take just that information all the way to "can perfectly and effortlessly memorize hundreds of seals per minute just by glancing at them."





"Kurosawa can trap you in hell or hack reality through interpretive dance."
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I thought we had a trace a finger over them, that just looking isn't enough?

We could probably spawn all sorts of crazy rumors about what the Iron Nerve can do by using exotic seal effects at the same time as pointless interpretive dance. Sounds hilarious. In fact, I bet Jiraiya would have great fun helping us brain storm ideas over dinner.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
I thought we had a trace a finger over them, that just looking isn't enough?

We could probably spawn all sorts of crazy rumors about what the Iron Nerve can do by using exotic seal effects at the same time as pointless interpretive dance. Sounds hilarious. In fact, I bet Jiraiya would have great fun helping us brain storm ideas over dinner.
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For memorizing seal blanks (nothing to do with drawing them!) Hazou can just stare at it for a few seconds. Iron Nerve OP.
 
MMKII said:
For memorizing seal blanks (nothing to do with drawing them!) Hazou can just stare at it for a few seconds. Iron Nerve OP.
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Really? How's that work?

As for drawing them does it work to trace over it with a dry writing brush, so we can redo the same movements with an inked brush later?
 
TaliesinSkye said:
Really? How's that work?

As for drawing them does it work to trace over it with a dry writing brush, so we can redo the same movements with an inked brush later?
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Memorizing infused seals on sight is a special bonus to the Iron Nerve on top of its core functionality of perfect movement replication. Not sure if tracing with a dry brush would be different from an inked brush, but I don't see why we would want to use a dry brush in the first place.
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
Memorizing infused seals on sight is a special bonus to the Iron Nerve on top of its core functionality of perfect movement replication. Not sure if tracing with a dry brush would be different from an inked brush, but I don't see why we would want to use a dry brush in the first place.
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Dont want to mess up the seal blank?
 
MMKII said:
Dont want to mess up the seal blank?
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But we already would have the seal memorized from the Iron Nerve, so I don't see how this is a meaningful use case. You also wouldn't be able to check if your brushstrokes were correct without them laying down ink, which means you're probably going to have to redo the whole thing from scratch anyways.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
I thought we had a trace a finger over them, that just looking isn't enough?

We could probably spawn all sorts of crazy rumors about what the Iron Nerve can do by using exotic seal effects at the same time as pointless interpretive dance. Sounds hilarious. In fact, I bet Jiraiya would have great fun helping us brain storm ideas over dinner.
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Work with Gai to develop Roki into a deception combat style purportedly based entirely around the power of posing.
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
But we already would have the seal memorized from the Iron Nerve, so I don't see how this is a meaningful use case. You also wouldn't be able to check if your brushstrokes were correct without them laying down ink, which means you're probably going to have to redo the whole thing from scratch anyways.
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It wouldn't matter, because even if you perfectly copied it it would still be a blank from another sealmaster and sealmasters can't infuse each other's blanks. Having the blank memorized gives you a solid place to start researching it from, but you still need to research and translate it into your own style.
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
But we already would have the seal memorized from the Iron Nerve, so I don't see how this is a meaningful use case. You also wouldn't be able to check if your brushstrokes were correct without them laying down ink, which means you're probably going to have to redo the whole thing from scratch anyways.
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Right, thats only really useful in trying to copy someone else's blanks though.
 
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