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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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firestorm440 said:
I remember one particularly bull-headed individual who insisted D&D wizards weren't aware of spell or caster levels because they were a metagame construct.

Never mind the fact that wizards have a very quantifiable number of spells per day, or that spells have very quantifiable effects granular to caster level, or that wizards are one of the most intelligent classes in general...:rolleyes:
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I find that when people complain about things like that, or I notice an inconsistency in some fictional universe, it's usually possible to put a little creative thought into a clever solution that resolves the issue so it isn't a bother any more.

For example with wizard spell progression, the wizard's ability to hold the magical energy of spells (or however the system works) actually does increase gradually, but being able to hold part of a spell isn't terribly useful, so we only take mechanical note of it when they get enough for a whole new one. Boom, done.

As for in game/out of game terminology, I prefer making up in-game equivalents that sound less mechanical. My favorite example of this was for an epic D&D game writeup that referred to a wizard's spell levels as valencies, analogous to the valencies of an electron shell. Epic spells above 9th level were supervalent.
 
Immortal Lurker said:
I'm obviously 100% in favor of this. You need two summoners to really make it work. Keiko on the leaf side and an S ranker in the field. But there are possible limits to the inter-dimensional chakra bucket line:
  • while chakra travels in ninja perfectly fine between dimensions, we don't know if it travels in Wakahisa water.
  • We don't know Wakahisa water retains potency 100s of miles away from the Wakahisa.
These do need to be tested. But its an idea of such insane potency that we should not mention it in Mist, or without Jiraiya's full OPSEC preparations.

Seriously. Imagine Jiraiya being fueled by a village's worth of chakra, pumping out dozens of shadow clones a minute. It is a second superweapon.

But there are outside view reasons to think it won't work. See, this isn't a "turn it upside down" sort of thing, where it was an unexpected use of a minor seal that only one or two very busy people knew how to make. There have been generations of Wakahisa trying to optimize things.

There are objections to those reasons. Summon scrolls are rare enough that Mist might never have had two at the same time. Summoners might be secretive enough that they don't tell people the exact mechanics, so the Wakahisa never knew. Also, Mist seems uninterested in optimizing the daylights out of the Wakahisa's bloodline. I seem to remember a QM saying that their distribution system in case of an attack on the village was something like "have a Wakahisa follow you around," rather than a system of Wakahisa farming genin with carrier chuunin carrying the water to the front.
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I think a reason for "have a Wakahisa follow you around" would be that This way they will drain chakra from enemy ninjas shifting chakra balance on the battlefield, whereas your proposition just redeploys it in the same group. Its useful, but it doesn't give an edge in a battle.

Say, Mist has total CR of 5K among their ranks at the start of battle, their enemies having the same 5K amount. Using Wakahisa to drain enemies results in, say 5.5K for Mist against 4.5K for enemies. That's 1K of difference, while draining your own genin leaves the scales in the same position.

However, if Summon Realm Chakra Transfer Plan works at all, it will drain chakra from fellow ninja in hundreds of miles away from battlefield. There are hundreds of crippled and/or retired ninjas that can donate chakra, so input should be pretty great.

Still need to test it, but for more credible results I propose check it after chakra-capacity research, because we will need to test how much chakra is leaked out.
 
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Kiba said:
Wouldn't be opposed to a (supervised) visit to Zabuza for his signature.
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Careful, for all we know Zabuza is going to carve his signature into Hazou's skin with Kubikiribōchō like he does for all the missing-nin he killed.

PS: Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō Kubikiribōchō
 
Achievement Unlocked: Win a Game of Hide and Seek with Momochi Zabuza.
 
I really want us to befriend Zabuza and get an autograph. Sadly, it seems that way lies incredibly fraught danger. Plus historically in Naruto the Chunin exams are where the Akatsuki attack.
 
Once again I'm too late to vote.

@MMKII if i weren't, I would have asked you to split your plan in two. I know it only covers around a day, but narratively speaking it covers up to 7 scenes, multiple of them important enough to require lots of words plan wise.

In cases where we want to go into a lot of detail tackling one specific problem it makes sense to sacrifice the experience in order to get what we want and avoid mistakes. But in cases like this one simply splitting a lengthy plan into two updates may be both in our interest and in that of the QMs. Not to mention that our time with Hana may well be worth half a chapter on its own.
 
Rafin said:
Once again I'm too late to vote.

@MMKII if i weren't, I would have asked you to split your plan in two. I know it only covers around a day, but narratively speaking it covers up to 7 scenes, multiple of them important enough to require lots of words plan wise.

In cases where we want to go into a lot of detail tackling one specific problem it makes sense to sacrifice the experience in order to get what we want and avoid mistakes. But in cases like this one simply splitting a lengthy plan into two updates may be both in our interest and in that of the QMs. Not to mention that our time with Hana may well be worth half a chapter on its own.
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We've had a lot of "And it is the next morning now, what will you do?" endings recently and things are a bit time sensitive now so I was leery of doing that. Also explicitly putting "End update before XYZ time" or something seems a bit rude to me.

As far as narrative content goes: If all but the Lunch and the Mom scene gets offscreened, its fine by me. Whether or not @Velorien wants to boot whatever we don't get to in the next update to @eaglejarl, well, thats up to them to hash out.
 
MMKII said:
Achievement Unlocked: Win a Game of Hide and Seek with Momochi Zabuza.
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You do realise that he just ambushed Keiko and tagged her with a medal, right?

Rafin said:
Once again I'm too late to vote.

@MMKII if i weren't, I would have asked you to split your plan in two. I know it only covers around a day, but narratively speaking it covers up to 7 scenes, multiple of them important enough to require lots of words plan wise.

In cases where we want to go into a lot of detail tackling one specific problem it makes sense to sacrifice the experience in order to get what we want and avoid mistakes. But in cases like this one simply splitting a lengthy plan into two updates may be both in our interest and in that of the QMs. Not to mention that our time with Hana may well be worth half a chapter on its own.
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I wouldn't worry about that. Writing is going badly and the odds of me getting through this entire plan in one go are approximately zero. If you want to suggest, in an informal and non-binding fashion, which scenes you want to see most, I'll try to take it into consideration as spoons allow.
 
Velorien said:
I wouldn't worry about that. Writing is going badly and the odds of me getting through this entire plan in one go are approximately zero. If you want to suggest, in an informal and non-binding fashion, which scenes you want to see most, I'll try to take it into consideration as spoons allow.
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Personally, I'd love to see the Shopping section, but that's mostly because I want the merchant spy network set up (or started, anyway). I'll still be pretty happy if it gets done offscreen.
 
Velorien said:
You do realise that he just ambushed Keiko and tagged her with a medal, right?

I wouldn't worry about that. Writing is going badly and the odds of me getting through this entire plan in one go are approximately zero. If you want to suggest, in an informal and non-binding fashion, which scenes you want to see most, I'll try to take it into consideration as spoons allow.
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My first answer is: Whichever is easier for you to write :)

My second answer: I would like to see the shopping/merchant stuff and I really really wanna see the Shin scene. I would be okay with any amount of "X happened offscreen and here's roughly how it went" as well though.
 
I'd be down for Keiko interlude of her meeting with Ami.

e: You know, just to further the theory of chronological breakdown around her.
 
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[X] Let @Velorien write what he wants. I trust fear have an abundance of respect for his writing abilities and am willing to accept the risks of giving him free reign to write as he sees fit.
 
[X] Let @Velorien write what he wants. I trust fear have an abundance of respect for his writing abilities and am willing to accept the risks of giving him free reign to write as he sees fit.
 
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