Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

hYGP · Nov 1, 2018

Cariyaga said:
Question: How do you propose children with less than a moth's experience with Disguise Kits actually go about disguising themselves as adults?

...it's literally in our backstory shif-

I'm sorry, what was I talking about?

More seriously, this seems like something Hazou should know: does he think he can successfully disguise as an adult @eaglejarl @Velorien, @OliWhail ?

Emstar · Nov 1, 2018

Hazou has pretty high deceit. I think he can reasonably disguise as some rich foreign noble's son. He did scribe kid just fine.

Why an adult? You think the Yakuza are going to be thrown in jail for allowing minors into their casinos?/s

But seriously: Why does ninja deathworld give a single fuck about age limits on gambling?

Cariyaga · Nov 1, 2018

MMKII said:
Hazou has pretty high deceit. I think he can reasonably disguise as some rich foreign noble's son. He did scribe kid just fine.

Why an adult? You think the Yakuza are going to be thrown in jail for allowing minors into their casinos?/s

But seriously: Why does ninja deathworld give a single fuck about age limits on gambling?

I wasn't talking about age limits on gambling.

I was talking about it being mega obvious that we're chuunin candidates.

Lailoken · Nov 1, 2018

Cariyaga said:
Question: Why wouldn't they simply do that with Mist instead of us?

They probably will, but there are a lot of foreigners right now. This is a once-in-a-generation event for a village and they had far less prep time than most.

More than that, their relationship with Mist ninja and authorities is probably a strained equilibrium, whereas we have both special diplomatic protections and a history of cooperation which has been and by all appearances will be nothing but upside.

The worst case scenario is that they just say no, but it was the Yakuza leader who spontaneously brought up gambling, the Yakuza's role in regulating it, and the enormous profit they are already looking at as a direct result of our partnership.

MMKII said:
Why would we add the Hyuga, aburame or Ino to this?

Just have Shika run up the blackjack tables, Hazou can cheat the shit out of folks at dice and poker (sleight of hand) and Keiko can pwn fools at darts.

Likewise Noburi can .... Noburi....

Mind-reader. Bug spies. Somebody who can read a rolled-up scroll from a block away and transmit the information via pangolin. That's to say nothing of just building social contacts with clan heirs.

Kiba said:
Do we have time to do this?

I have been pushing this for months.

Vecht · Nov 1, 2018

Lailoken said:
I honestly never expected, "Hey guys, FREE MONEY!", to be such a hard sell...

Lailoken said:
I swear to all things unholy that if we end up ignoring the money tree my new policy is going to be last-second votes for the meme-plan closest to winning anytime anybody complains about the pangolin or financial situations.

I'm open to this. Put it in a plan? Nobody can vote for it otherwise.

Lailoken · Nov 1, 2018

Vecht said:
I'm open to this. Put it in a plan? Nobody can vote for it otherwise.

Arghhh... that sounds like work.

Langevin · Nov 1, 2018

[x]Sequitur consilium 2: Electric Boogaloo

Lailoken said:
This is a once-in-a-generation event for a village and they had far less prep time than most.

Minor quibble: I had the impression the Exams happened every 1-2 years? Sakura competed in the last one and she's not that much older than us.

Running this by J seems cheap, though I'm still sure what we think our edge is over other ninja doing this, besides "not being from Mist". (Mist has other Kurosawa, plus the Kozu.)

Lailoken · Nov 1, 2018

Langevin said:
[x]Sequitur consilium 2: Electric Boogaloo

Minor quibble: I had the impression the Exams happened every 1-2 years? Sakura competed in the last one and she's not that much older than us.

Running this by J seems cheap, though I'm still sure what we think our edge is over other ninja doing this, besides "not being from Mist". (Mist has other Kurosawa, plus the Kozu.)

I thought it was every four years, cycling between the big 5 nations.

We don't need exclusively, just sufficient competitive advantage and a rare established relationship.

Cariyaga · Nov 1, 2018

Lailoken said:
Arghhh... that sounds like work.

Don't worry, I'll get on it either later tonight or early tomorrow.

Emstar · Nov 1, 2018

Cariyaga said:
I wasn't talking about age limits on gambling.

I was talking about it being mega obvious that we're chuunin candidates.

We are clearly the rich son of a nobleman who sells these novel inventions called 'telescopes'.

I dunno where you're getting this Chunin candidate nonsense

Kiba · Nov 1, 2018

Cariyaga said:
Don't worry, I'll get on it either later tonight or early tomorrow.

We already had a full plan. We can wait for the next update.

Langevin · Nov 1, 2018

Lailoken said:
Arghhh... that sounds like work.

Weird. I just got this PM'd to me from a blank account, message subject "Recognition Code 420: I Am A Potoooooooo".

Future Lailoken said:
Updating this plan sounds like work; don't expect it to happen.

WC:425, dammit
[x]Sequitur consilium's 11

Jiraiya :

Fully inform him on Mari's situation: Hana's involvement, responses, past experiences.

BEFOREHAND:Consult the clan (sans Mari) for approval/advice.

Bring Noburi to the conversation.

Plead not to worsen through rash decisions.

(Hazou's mentality: upset with Hana, struggles reconciling her actions with his love.)

Suggestions (implement provided agreement):

Inform Anko and Neira, Mari's friends (?), about her situation.

Remind Jiraiya of Kagome's birthday; if necessary, request he make time to come, if only a few minutes.

Mist Yakuza:

Cooperate on tournament betting (see below)

Produce Casino Seals to sell (consult Keiko first regarding estimated quantity).

Tournament: practice choreographed fights (for teammates' matches).

Suggested Cheat: Start with Living Roots pre-activated?

Conceal handsigns under sleeves/cloak (Sleight of Hand)?

Tactical info on potential opponents?

Gambling:

Coordinate with Yakuza to cheat foreigners during gambles in exchange for a cut (50%?).

Core team: Hazou, Keiko, Noburi. Panache?

Add Nara, ask him about adding Ino, Neji, Hinata, and Aburame

Team training under Mari

Ask J for tips

Mari:

Keep her company. Discuss light topics.

Ask:

General tournament rules

Cheating: In general ,and the Living Roots cheat specifically

Lunch with Shikamaru:

Exchange book recommendations.

Game night: He's lucky he missed it. Did Shiori tell anything?

Till'n'fills: Small innovation, but helps both civilians and Leaf.

Confide in Noburi:

So much happening lately: family drama, politics, tournament, Akatsuki, Pangolins...

We're glad to have a bro like him seeing it through with us.

Train

Ebisu

Hana: Practice "wounded rabbit act" (see below) with IN + Sleight of Hand.

Ask Kagome for tiny laminated storage seals, with some fresh pigs blood

Palm one with sleight of hand, and release during exam match/afterwards to fake injury.

Synergize with practiced IN movements to sell the act.

Ask Kagome about feasibility first.

Otherwise/in addition: try practicing faking injuries across your body (fractures,bruised bones, stabs, etc.).

Intent: Practice quickly maneuvering to create a Fragile Aspect.

Advice on playing dirty: In general, the above and the Living Roots cheat specifically.

General tournament rules?

Train Blindfighting with Living Roots, Vibrator Seals, Banshee Slayer + Smokebombs. Assess efficacy.

Find and purchase flashbangs/smokebombs( or test ash/soot-filled Macerators) Observe relevant safety precautions.

Purchase some camouflagable cloth.

Purpose: Hold seals(Vibrator, Banshee Slayer) by wrapping around body. Useful for blindfighting? Camouflage?

Buy cheap Hazou-sized cloaks (identical).

Other:

Improve Vibrator Seals.

Prep for Kagome's birthday.

Invite Akane

Also, she's always welcome at the compounds! Just remember to be careful of traps.

Make sure Hazou's present is prepared

Emstar · Nov 1, 2018

Langevin said:
Weird. I just got this PM'd to me from a blank account, message subject "Recognition Code 420: I Am A Potoooooooo".

@Cariyaga ?

Cariyaga · Nov 1, 2018

Langevin said:
Weird. I just got this PM'd to me from a blank account, message subject "Recognition Code 420: I Am A Potoooooooo".

Too many words!

Lailoken · Nov 1, 2018

MMKII said:
We are clearly the rich son of a nobleman who sells these novel inventions called 'telescopes'.

I dunno where you're getting this Chunin candidate nonsense

Let J and Mari design some personas and drill them in with specific disguise training. Better yet, let Ino handle applying the disguises. She seems the type to have a lot of experience with makeup.

Langevin said:
Weird. I just got this PM'd to me from a blank account, message subject "Recognition Code 420: I Am A Potoooooooo".

Never trust future-me. Future-me is an absolute villain bent on unprovoked vengeance against past-me for their innocent, well-considered decisions.

Wiadi · Nov 1, 2018

Kiba said:
We already had a full plan. We can wait for the next update.

Orrrr we could just add it to this plan because why not? Worst that happens at this stage is Jiraiya shooting us down.

Also, weren't you the one questioning if we had time to implement this? In that case wouldn't you want to start laying groundwork ASAP?

Kiba · Nov 1, 2018

Wiadi said:
Orrrr we could just add it to this plan because why not? Worst that happens at this stage is Jiraiya shooting us down.

Also, weren't you the one questioning if we had time to implement this? In that case wouldn't you want to start laying groundwork ASAP?

I was questioning if we have time during the tournament to do these things. For all we know, there will be lot of networking opportunities with mist clans.

eaglejarl · Nov 1, 2018

Oh, right.

PSA: For this next update I'm going to be using the same 300 / 100 thresholds for bonus XP on plans that we used in the last update.

XP for various words in plan:
+1XP: 0-300 words
+0XP: 301-400
-1XP: 401-500
-2XP: 501-600
...

Word counts are determined by Google Docs (so that the tags don't count against you) and the plan title is not considered part of the plan unless the plan author tries to abuse that fact.

Langevin · Nov 1, 2018

Kiba said:
I was questioning if we have time during the tournament to do these things. For all we know, there will be lot of networking opportunities with mist clans.

Shoot, this cuts into our Ami time. ABORT MISSION, ABORT MISSION

Lailoken · Nov 1, 2018

Kiba said:
I was questioning if we have time during the tournament to do these things. For all we know, there will be lot of networking opportunities with mist clans.

The tournament scheduling is pretty relaxed, and we can just get back to Mist early.

We do really need shadow clones, though

Noumero · Nov 1, 2018

Cariyaga said:
Too many words!

I moved the larger "gathering information about the tournament" part into a separate section, but that should be the extent of functional changes.

Jiraiya (bring Noburi):
- Fully inform him on Mari's situation: Hana's involvement, responses, past experiences.
  - Plead not to worsen through rash decisions.
  - (PREPARE: Consult the clan (sans Mari) for approval/advice.)
  - (Hazou's mentality: upset with Hana, struggles reconciling her actions with his love.)
- Suggestions (implement provided agreement):
  - Inform Anko and Neira, Mari's friends (?), about her situation.
  - Mist Yakuza:
    - Cooperate on tournament betting and gambling (below).
    - Produce Casino Seals to sell. (PREPARE: Consult Keiko regarding estimated quantity.)
- Remind of Kagome's birthday; ask to come, if not for long.

Gambling:
- Coordinate with Yakuza to cheat foreigners during gambles in exchange for a cut (50%?).
- Core team: Hazou, Keiko, Noburi. Panache?
  - Add Nara, suggest adding Ino, Neji, Hinata, Aburame.
- Train in teams under Mari, ask Jiraiya for tips.
Ask Jiraiya, Hana, Mari, Kagome about tournament:
- General rules.
- Information on opponents.
- Cheating:
  - In general.
  - Starting with Living Roots pre-activated.
- Practicing choreographed fights (for teammates' matches).
Mari:
- Keep company. Discuss light topics.

Lunch with Shikamaru:
- Exchange book recommendations.
- Game night: He's lucky he missed it. Did Shiori tell anything?
- Till'n'fills: Small innovation, but helps both civilians and Leaf.

Confide in Noburi:
- So much happening lately: family drama, politics, tournament, Akatsuki, Pangolins...
- We're glad to have a bro like him seeing it through with us.

Train:
- Ebisu.
- "Wounded-rabbit act" with IN + Sleight of Hand.
  - Run by Kagome, train under Hana.
  - Practice faking injuries across body (fractures, stabs).
    - Intent: Quickly maneuvering to create Fragile Aspects.
  - Ask Kagome for tiny laminated storage seals with fresh pig blood.
  - Palm one with SoH, release during match/afterwards to fake injury.
  - Synergize with practiced IN movements to sell the act.
- Blindfighting: Living Roots, Vibrator Seals, Banshee Slayer + Smokebombs. Assess efficacy.
  - Find and purchase flashbangs/smokebombs (or test ash/soot-filled Macerators). Observe relevant safety precautions.
  - Purchase camouflagable cloth.
    - Purpose: Hold seals (Vibrator, Banshee Slayer) by wrapping around body.
    - Buy cheap Hazou-sized cloaks (identical).

Other:
- Improve Vibrator Seals.
- Prepare for Kagome's birthday.
  - Invite Akane.
    - Remind: She's always welcome at the compound! But be careful of traps.
  - Prepare present.

I'm pretty sure I could get it to below 300, but I'm going to sleep instead of doing that. I'll shorten it tomorrow if necessary.

@MMKII, copy pieces of this to your plan to shorten it too, if you want.

UmbraofChaos · Nov 1, 2018

Can someone explain the necessity of shadow clones to me? Even if we got the capacity to start using it we could make one? A few? Their planning potential seems interesting but I can't find a great use for them besides blowing a lot of chakra on a suicide bomber. I might just be dumb and tired though.

Kiba · Nov 2, 2018

UmbraofChaos said:
Can someone explain the necessity of shadow clones to me? Even if we got the capacity to start using it we could make one? A few? Their planning potential seems interesting but I can't find a great use for them besides blowing a lot of chakra on a suicide bomber. I might just be dumb and tired though.

You don't want your shadow clone to act as a suicide bomber, or to be involved in combat at all. That's traumatic.

The potential of shadow clone is that you can use it as a training or learning tool or to get more things done. But unless you are Naruto, you should never use it in combat.

Cariyaga · Nov 2, 2018

UmbraofChaos said:
Can someone explain the necessity of shadow clones to me? Even if we got the capacity to start using it we could make one? A few? Their planning potential seems interesting but I can't find a great use for them besides blowing a lot of chakra on a suicide bomber. I might just be dumb and tired though.

What Kiba said. Their memories transfer back to you, so they're useful in all sorts of ways for training.

eaglejarl · Nov 2, 2018

UmbraofChaos said:
Can someone explain the necessity of shadow clones to me? Even if we got the capacity to start using it we could make one? A few? Their planning potential seems interesting but I can't find a great use for them besides blowing a lot of chakra on a suicide bomber. I might just be dumb and tired though.

The go-to Shadow Clone move in fanfic (and exactly once in Naruto canon) is that you have lots of clones studying alongside you. Every time one makes a little bit of progress it pops itself and you gets its memories of making that progress, allowing you to learn faster.

In MfD it's been shown that SC exist and they share memories, but the exact implications of that are up for debate.

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