[X] Action Plan: Tonight We Fix the Kid

In other news: We're looking at slightly reforming the terms of the Gōketsu seal license. Having learned from past experience, we'd prefer to have one person look it over before throwing it to the crowd. Who wants to sanity-check us?

I would be up for looking it over as well. At the least, I have yet to try and break the original in the discussions, so I may have a different perspective on how you abuse the rule. I certainly don't mind if a more consistent/ involved person does it though.
 
Oh, also, could you change 'lunch' to 'brunch'? It fits the timeline better.
Sure, one sec.

E: done!
Thanks!

Does Kagome have a sense of how much is left to do? He was working with us on this, right?
Repeating earlier reply from when the question was still in the mini-chapter, for the benefit of those future linear-time reader people: Kagome isn't sure yet and needs a little more research to figure it out.
 
My rom-com trope senses are tingling; does anyone else think it is worth explicitly including in the plan: "Do NOT end up in a situation where we are getting drunk with Ino."

There is nothing to indicate that that is likely to happen, and yet there is nothing to prevent it happening, and Hazou is pretty unstable right now. Unconstrained emotional interactions with Clan heirs is political bad juju.
 
My rom-com trope senses are tingling; does anyone else think it is worth explicitly including in the plan: "Do NOT end up in a situation where we are getting drunk with Ino."

There is nothing to indicate that that is likely to happen, and yet there is nothing to prevent it happening, and Hazou is pretty unstable right now. Unconstrained emotional interactions with Clan heirs is political bad juju.
Which plan are you speaking of? I dont see this being a problem in mine, Mom Powers activate.
 
My rom-com trope senses are tingling; does anyone else think it is worth explicitly including in the plan: "Do NOT end up in a situation where we are getting drunk with Ino."

There is nothing to indicate that that is likely to happen, and yet there is nothing to prevent it happening, and Hazou is pretty unstable right now. Unconstrained emotional interactions with Clan heirs is political bad juju.
ORRR we could just not drink, period.

Seriously, what is up with drinking here? This is not a good coping mechanism.
 
Yeah, well when I wrote that it wasn't canon. @eaglejarl, is this going to cause consequences, or is it just stress? (new post because edits don't ping)
You get all sorts of very minor cuts and whatnot in your mouth if you're tanking hits to the face or happen to bite something fleshy when being thrown 10m horizontally and landing with significant velocity.

There are other coping mechanisms??
Yes.

Getting the snot kicked out of you by Jonin!
 
Funny enough the more hazou gets his shit kicked, the more he learns to lean on blows, making him even more resistant to physical stress.
 
Glad to hear it. Personally, I'm still very much of the belief that this is a stupid and arrogant idea, that execution is what is valuable, with ideas having value only insofar as they enable or influence execution. Still, during the earlier discussion on the topic there were multiple people chiming in to support the "someone's brain state alone is worth paying for" and few or no people objecting, so I went with it.

I think people generally will often ignore things they disagree with being said in the thread, unless they become part of the plan. I also do not agree with the sentiment that overvalues ideas, but I wouldn't bother discussing it unless it somehow made it into the plan (like 'Explain to Jiraya that Hazou deserves basically everything because he has Ideas so make us hokage thanks').

It didn't bother me too much in the update since we've already demonstrated Hazou is being pretty stupid right now, and saying things just to hurt others.
 
Kagome isn't sure yet. Also, would you mind relocating the question out of your newly-canonized interlude? It breaks the flow a bit.

Glad to hear it. Personally, I'm still very much of the belief that this is a stupid and arrogant idea, that execution is what is valuable, with ideas having value only insofar as they enable or influence execution. Still, during the earlier discussion on the topic there were multiple people chiming in to support the "someone's brain state alone is worth paying for" and few or no people objecting, so I went with it.

I mean, people's actual arguments for Hazou's ideas having value is that they do a good job of enabling execution.

I disagree with calling Kagome's portion of the contribution 'grunt work', or implying that it wasn't critically important. But, back during that whole debate, given that Skywalkers also needed Hazou to come up with the precise idea of what seals to combine in order for the execution stage to be possible, I disagreed with the idea that Hazou's contribution had been useless. Honestly, I made this whole massive wall of text about how thinking of things as either only execution mattering or only ideas capable of enabling execution mattering was flawed, and that you should instead think about which of those two things was missing before something could be done, and which was more replaceable at that time. I did come down on the side of Hazou's contribution to skywalkers being more of a bottleneck to getting flight seals than Kagome's sealwork, because there were many people who could have combined air domes with a chakra adhesion trigger, but none who had thought of the idea. But that was a specific position on one specific problem, not a general statement about the value of ideas versus the value of execution.

I might be remembering incorrectly, but I'm pretty sure you're the person who brought up the whole "ideas or execution, which one actually matters" dichotomy in the first place. Before that, the thread was more specifically talking about Hazou's ideas about Skytowers and Skywalkers being valuable, and that those ideas showed we had a track-record for coming up with valuable ideas. I'm sure there were definitely some people talking about how execution was worthless. But I'm also pretty sure that a lot of them were just defending the claim that ideas could be valuable, and that more specifically those two specific ones had been. Thinking that that must mean the thread as a whole thinks ideas are the only valuable thing and execution is worthless is an inaccurate understanding of the thread's actual collective beliefs.

"Ideas can be valuable," is not the same statement as, "Only ideas can be valuable," or, "Execution is always and everywhere less valuable than ideas."

Honestly, I might be being too charitable to the thread, or just plain old misremembering. But I don't think so.
 
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The Asuma interaction was pretty hilarious.

Likewise I laughed at the "Okay, the floor is lava. Time to go punch Jonin. Anyone in? No? Kay, cya later." despite its potential social abrasiveness
 
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