GRAVEDIGGER QUEST

In this fantasy world of knights, dragons, and magic, whenever anyone dies they inevitably rise from the dead after a few days to feed upon the living. However, while bearing superficial similarities to the zombies and other undead we are all used to, these undead cannot be put down by an arrow to the head or a sword to the gut. Cut them into pieces, and the pieces will keep attacking. Feed them to the birds, and you'll soon have bloated, undead birds coming after you. Cremate the bodies, and undead clouds of ash will shortly be preying upon the living.

In this world, there are only two ways for the dead to find peace. The first is a relatively new invention, some kind of magical wards which shut out the evil power that animates these undead. These wards can be set up over an area, and are commonly used on graveyards. The second is much older, and is known as the Gravediggers, or the Keepers of the Grey.

Keepers of the Grey are a line of people that wander the world, and possess magic which allows them to 'pyre' dead bodies and undead, burning them to ash and preventing them from preying upon the living. In doing so, the Keeper gains some of the memories from the dead person's life, granting them new knowledge and skills in the process.

You are Lirra, a Keeper of the Grey. Having lost your mentor to a plague, you were left completely alone in the world. HOWEVER, you decided that unlike most Keepers, you would not simply wander the world alone until you found an apprentice and finally, finally could die. You want friends, and by golly, you are going to find friends! To that end, you found yourself at Merek'Norr, an academy for aspiring heroes. Here you will find friends and train to be noble adventurer, but take heed. The academy is not for the faint of heart, it is all to easy to lose a friend, or even your own life, to a twist of fate, or a wrong decision. Here, your story begins.
 
Also, I think it's likely in our best interests to wait the full year before initiating contact; to do otherwise would just be handing ammo to the more conservative/anti-us factions (who will, I remind you, still be angry from all of their people that Kagome splatted when they tried to hit us). I'm not against trying to find a use for them once the year's up, but we shouldn't pull them out until we need a surprise to hit someone with or something. That's a card you can only play once.

It's not a major point, but I kind of think "a year means a year" is over-emphasizing the importance of timekeeping to a pre-modern society. Do you think they're literally counting the days or something? A year means "about a year" when the seasons have cycled back around, and where exactly that connects to precisely 365 days is more a factor of the vagaries of travel and convenience.
 
It's not a major point, but I kind of think "a year means a year" is over-emphasizing the importance of timekeeping to a pre-modern society. Do you think they're literally counting the days or something? A year means "about a year" when the seasons have cycled back around, and where exactly that connects to precisely 365 days is more a factor of the vagaries of travel and convenience.
I agree that they probably won't care if we're early by a few weeks or if we're late by a few months.
 
I agree that they probably won't care if we're early by a few weeks or if we're late by a few months.
Which is why it's best to get the ball rolling ASAP. Better to start putting in the work to make them an ally now then waiting till it's to late. Of course all of this is dependent on Jiraiya giving it his ok.
 
Which is why it's best to get the ball rolling ASAP. Better to start putting in the work to make them an ally now then waiting till it's to late. Of course all of this is dependent on Jiraiya giving it his ok.
As long as its a 1-2 day detour on the way back I don't really care if we do it.
 
It's not a major point, but I kind of think "a year means a year" is over-emphasizing the importance of timekeeping to a pre-modern society. Do you think they're literally counting the days or something? A year means "about a year" when the seasons have cycled back around, and where exactly that connects to precisely 365 days is more a factor of the vagaries of travel and convenience.

On the one hand, yeah, the literal exact day probably doesn't matter that much. On the other, the Gregorian Calendar was brought into play in the 16th century, and the Julian Calendar it's a refinement of came out in the 1st century, so it's not like yearly timekeeping is new.

Now, the Romans were probably more advanced when it came to some logistical things because they were a huge empire that needed to be pretty organized, and the EN are... y'know... not that, but if they're something like 12th century tech the calendar year is probably actually a thing.

Also, all of this is kinda moot given @Oneiros is explicitly pushing their plan as "we should show up early as a dominance display", not "we should show up early 'cause now's convenient". I significantly disagree that it's a good idea to do so.
 
Also, all of this is kinda moot given @Oneiros is explicitly pushing their plan as "we should show up early as a dominance display", not "we should show up early 'cause now's convenient". I significantly disagree that it's a good idea to do so.
I don't see why we can't stop by , mutually update both parties on the changed political situations, and arrange for an envoy to be sent to Leaf (and maybe some other third party means of getting in touch with each other).

This seems like a relatively trivial commitment on both sides, it opens up further possibilities with HM and it is unlikely to bog us down for more than a day or two.
 
It's not a major point, but I kind of think "a year means a year" is over-emphasizing the importance of timekeeping to a pre-modern society. Do you think they're literally counting the days or something? A year means "about a year" when the seasons have cycled back around, and where exactly that connects to precisely 365 days is more a factor of the vagaries of travel and convenience.

Huh, I was previously in the "A year means a year" crowd, but this convinced me.

Although Jiraiya will almost certainly tell us to wait. He doesn't even know if he gets to keep the hat yet. That will change our approach.

And I am very strongly in favor of a victory uplift tour through the Land of Fire. That does too many good things for me to put it off for more than a week.

So this is what I think the future looks like, assuming Jiraiya keeps the hat and the Akatsuki don't invade, and we aren't tapped as part of the Naruto rescue effort:
  • Quick visit to Leaf (<1 week)
    • Say hi to everyone
    • Celebrate Kagome's Birthday
    • Pick up Jonin trainers.
    • Talk about secret plans:
      • Seventh path rescue hijinks
      • SC farm
      • Civilian usable seals?
      • Leaf defenses
        • 5SB spidersilk roof for Konoha
        • Banshee sonar
    • Industry
      • Do any paperwork we can for a license to sell seals
    • Learn if Jiraiya keeps the hat or not.
    • Hire secretary?
  • Swamp of Death Training, with or without SC. (3-4 weeks)
    • Ami style ridiculous challenges for spotting and killing chakra beasts. Noburi plays goalie.
    • Should get a boost to training Jutsu, on account of the nigh unlimited chakra we can spend
  • Tournament (<1 week)
    • Inform the Yakuza about the results of their request
    • Hold multicultural dinner (possibly disassociated with us, we look a tad violent for this)
  • Victory tour (1-2 weeks)
    • Uplift
    • Gather economic and social information
    • Spread the news of how awesome and rich Goketsu is.
    • Watch those who come with us for potential future allies.
  • Back to Leaf (<1 week)
  • Go to Mountain (???)
Is that more or less what everyone else was thinking?
 
As long as its a 1-2 day detour on the way back I don't really care if we do it.
Should be even less since we have the courier Pangolin.
Also, all of this is kinda moot given @Oneiros is explicitly pushing their plan as "we should show up early as a dominance display", not "we should show up early 'cause now's convenient". I significantly disagree that it's a good idea to do so.
No I'm actually almost entirely in favor of it because of convince. The power play is completely incidental. Though I do think having them send a delegation to Leaf is much better than us negotiating there
 
A big question in my mind is whether we should bend our promise and read Jiraiya (and only Jiraiya) in on the secret of Hidden Mountain's existence and the rough outlines of the situation there. This has potentially big political implications that could be useful to him or hurt him depending on how it goes. He needs some warning, and his advice in how to handle things (not to mention his assistance, goodness knows we're not diplomats) could be invaluable.

It's even possible that now would be a really bad time to introduce a variable like Hidden Mountain and it'd be better to wait. He could tell us that.
 
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