Man remember when we where going to utterly dominate and start to have a growing legend we could exploit? Those where good times. Way to go Nara.

very well written chapter @Velorien. Good job on making Shin more of a punch able deuche

Things are not as dire as all that. Yes, Mist is going to downplay our achievements. But Leaf is better at propaganda, and they are going to shout praise from the rooftops. The other villages don't have incentives one way or another, so they will just report what they saw. Which is that we curb stomped 50 Chunin candidates and rocked the tournament.

The ground was too poisoned for our legends to grow in Mist, but the seeds should have spread elsewhere.
 
Well, seems like the mass bannings in Shin Quest made the pragmatist faction take power. I'm pretty sure that literally zero Mist candidates making it to the tournament hosted by Mist itself, at a time of great political vulnerability for the village, is not nearly as comfortable of a situation as Shin's attitude would suggest, but it's definitely more advantageous for him to maintain a cordial relationship with Hazou as opposed to getting into a pointless pissing contest. So good job on making an omelette out of all these broken eggs.

"Spectacularly," Kurosawa agreed. "I knew I was right to let you keep your word half."

Heh, what a silly little powerplay. Not only could they not have actually stolen that without rifling through unknown storage scrolls in a sealmaster's kit, but it would've literally made no difference whatsoever, given that candidates could earn points from the first event even without their own word half. It did work in putting Hazou temporarily off-balance, though.
 
Hey, do you think Jiraiya could organize for us get 8 Gates training from Gai? Might be nice to have all the potential speed and power of unconstrained musculature wielded by the supreme kinesthetic control of the Iron Nerve.
 
Hey, do you think Jiraiya could organize for us get 8 Gates training from Gai? Might be nice to have all the potential speed and power of unconstrained musculature wielded by the supreme kinesthetic control of the Iron Nerve.
I want to get Gai to teach us some super taijutsu bullshit anyway. He's a taijutsu specialist, so chances are he has ways of dealing good ranged attack damage by now with mostly taijutsu stuff. At worst, he could give us some tips
 
I want to get Gai to teach us some super taijutsu bullshit anyway. He's a taijutsu specialist, so chances are he has ways of dealing good ranged attack damage by now with mostly taijutsu stuff. At worst, he could give us some tips
I mean, we have ways to deal good ranged attacks, too.
 
... Damn. That's a very, very appealing idea. But given how no one else uses gates... Something is up.
It was originally Gai's father's technique (in canon) . MfD versions of these characters keep their claws on these secret bullshit techniques like they're going to disintegrate away into sand at a moments notice, so that he hasn't shared it is pretty believable to me.
I mean, we have ways to deal good ranged attacks, too.
Only Macerators IIRC?
 
Also, just for the record:

Shin's Claim: Downfall wasn't well off after the 4th event, now they're the top Mist team, great success.

Reality: Downfall were 10th-12th after the 4th event, and the best ranked Mist team by a wide margin. In the final standings, they're just out of Top 32, and there is another Mist team above them, just out of Top 16.

Not completely sure if this is intended and Shin is simply underestimating his team's performance, or if he does know and is lying, or if @Velorien just overlooked this.
 
The 8 gates are not a techique you use if you plan on a long career. Damage builds up over time.

Edit: To make it clear this is likely Fandom, but it would fit with the general trend of QM rulings.
 
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All this update showed me is that Noburi really likes flirting by mocking people which makes me question his "feud" with Neji.
 
But none of this was our intention. You can only take moral ownership of something your decision process had agency over.

The fuck it wasn't. Maybe not the exact implementation, but one of the reasons that we were giving skywalkers to Leaf in the first place was so that their war with Mist would be short and curbstompingly victorious. And that's what happened. The war ended with exactly one battle and what, maybe a couple dozen deaths? Hell, it ended before war was even formally declared.
 
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So @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail In the original version of the rules Keiko's Monomanical (from Frozen Skein) was used on Summoning, allowing her to purchase levels in the skill with (Int x 3) instead of (Int x 1). But in the new rules there seems to have been no equivalent of an XP bump for Keiko, either in the Summoning Stunt (she still spend 250XP) or the Summoning Skill (she still spends 2x normal XP). Is there some other buff that was alloted to her so that she uses Monomanical for Summoning that I'm missing?

Also, is there any particular benefit to leveling the Summoning Skill? FMPOV the skill is just an XP sink since it doesn't seem to give Keiko anything...
Bumping for @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail
 
Even if that were true (and I don't see how it is; it's much easier to say it started with, say, Jiraiya), it seems like a really poor way to evaluate things.
Are you trying to view this from a moral perspective or something? If you just look at events bumping into each other as time goes on from a cause and effect standpoint, there is a very clear origination of this chain of events that occurs when we give Leaf Skywalkers in exchange for us joining Leaf.

You could say "Well isn't that dependent on things that came before it?" and "Isn't it also dependent on other people doing other things?" , but ultimately this would not have happened were it not for us. Us taking that particular action was a necessary (but perhaps not sufficient) condition for bringing about the Battle of the Gods.
 
Even if that were true (and I don't see how it is; it's much easier to say it started with, say, Jiraiya), it seems like a really poor way to evaluate things.

What would the MfD-verse need to look like in order for you to feel like the team had agency and had made positive change in the world? Secondarily, what would be required in order to move one step closer to that state?

Well, details. :p


No, this is something I'm remembering from here. I can go search.

Here:




Defensive screens! Now these don't have to be seals or anything but they're clearly transparent or see through.
Bah. You take all the fun out of everything. Well, I note that it was Leaf who had those and Mist may not.
 
Also, just for the record:

Shin's Claim: Downfall wasn't well off after the 4th event, now they're the top Mist team, great success.

Reality: Downfall were 10th-12th after the 4th event, and the best ranked Mist team by a wide margin. In the final standings, they're just out of Top 32, and there is another Mist team above them, just out of Top 16.

Not completely sure if this is intended and Shin is simply underestimating his team's performance, or if he does know and is lying, or if @Velorien just overlooked this.
I miscalculated some things. Fixed now.

Unrelatedly, I am disappointed in the lack of a Hazō vs Ami plan.
 
Unrelatedly, I am disappointed in the lack of a Hazō vs Ami plan.
Don't worry, there's still after the tournament. Roomba wasn't participating in planning at the time, so your mole couldn't work for you. :p
But Cariyaga, where are they going to get that much diamond?
They should have thought about that before they volunteered to hold the tournament.

I'm sure that Jiraiya (and the Pangolin) would be willing to help out, though, if they asked nicely.
 
I miscalculated some things. Fixed now.

Unrelatedly, I am disappointed in the lack of a Hazō vs Ami plan.

I'm sorry. :(

I haven't forgotten my promise, but at the time this plan was voted in, there was a lot of confusion related to how big a lead we had in the exam ranking and whether we should give any word halves to Team Kurenai. This was before @eaglejarl posted the final standings, and I didn't want to add to the confusion by pushing the Ami date, especially since @MMKII, the winning plan author, was definitively in opposition. The fact that I was very low on spoons at the time didn't help.

With that said, there will still be opportunities immediately before and after the tournament. All is not yet lost.
 
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