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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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The only reason I don't wanna see the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny is it'll put off us (hopefully; god I'd lose my mind if we didn't) getting to see Akane's new sheet :p
faflec said:
    • Say that you're sorry for his loss, in Hazou-speak. Something simple like "I'm so sorry for your loss".
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Instead, say that Hazou knows what it's like to lose a dad and that he'll be there when he gets back. I'd say offer a hug, but that's not the kind of thing to do in the context of the Hokage's office.

faflec said:
Mostly copied from @Jello_Raptor. Mostly just changed the formatting and cut out some stuff I didn't like.

[X] Action Plan: Leaf Leaf

  • General policies:
    • Refer to Jiraiya as Hokage-sama unless he says otherwise.
    • Minami is our squad leader. We defer to her plans, but give well thought-out advice (i.e., the plan).
      • That being said, don't overburden her with too much information.
  • Some quick things for Hokage-sama before he goes to bed.
    • Note that the blue skinned swordsman from his reports matches up with Hoshigaki Kisame.
      • Ask the team, especially Kagome, if they recognize any of the rest of the group of unknown assailants from their descriptions, either individually or based on their uniform.
    • Do we have authorization to use Skywalkers for speed/stealth purposes?
    • Say that you're sorry for his loss, in Hazou-speak. Something simple like "I'm so sorry for your loss".
  • Talk with Minami.
    • Do this while we're moving to get gear/prep.
    • Trade intel on general abilities/seals/protocols.
      • Make note of how we use Noburi's bloodline to boost our border crossings with chakra (without the risk of running out).
      • (If authorized) Brief Minami on Skywalkers.
  • Get/make supplies:
    • Kunai & shuriken.
    • Rations.
    • Seal-quality paper and ink(stones).
    • Specialized things:
      • Water supply (for Noburi's jutsu).
      • Macerator payloads:
        • Very fragrant things, ideally very fargrant oils for scent bombs. Something that clings to people would be best.
        • Some irritants (like pepper or chillis) for irritant bombs.
        • Very fine ash or talk for smoke bombs.
        • Iron that we can heat for a flash-bang.
      • Portable Skybase.
      • Make Skywalkers (if authorized).
  • Leaf Leaf.
    • Defer to the Hokage and head to Rivers first.
    • Use Skywalkers if authorized.
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--- I would strongly prefer we ask him for at least defensive or GTFO seals. Also, you never actually say that we ask for authorization to use Skywalkers, you just imply it later.

--- When I brought this up, I intended it to be something like getting a smith (yes I know it's 1 AM but this is by Kage order) to heat up some iron to white hot level, putting it in a box, and sealing it in macerators right then. Akane could probably help with that by using Elemental Mastery, actually.

--- Probably best the team split up to do this. Hazou needs briefed on Minami and Akane's capabilities, true, but we would be foolish not to pull on the Nara resources that were just pledged to Jiraiya -- Kei can address that.
 
Cariyaga said:
Also, you never actually say that we ask for authorization to use Skywalkers, you just imply it later.
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Doesn't the line "Do we have authorization to use Skywalkers for speed/stealth purposes?" cover that?

Cariyaga said:
When I brought this up, I intended it to be something like getting a smith (yes I know it's 1 AM but this is by Kage order) to heat up some iron to white hot level, putting it in a box, and sealing it in macerators right then.
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How long would it actually take for a smith to heat things up to that level and get the iron that hot? If it's even close to two hours that's longer than we should take.

Cariyaga said:
but we would be foolish not to pull on the Nara resources that were just pledged to Jiraiya -- Kei can address that.
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I disagree. Our mission isn't so complicated that we need to bring a Nara into this - those resources are better spent planning out finding and rescuing Naruto. We're just to go and meet up with Jiraiya's spies, give them updates, and help them at our discretion if they have requests. The most complicated aspect of that is the requests, and we don't have any info on that for the Naras to use.
 
*Breaks out the Red Folder*

Is sending Hazou out really the most optimal course of action for Jiraiya? The rest of the team is negligible in comparison to Hazou's ability to revolutionize warfare. If a platoon of ANBU, Jiraiya, AND Hiruzen couldn't even kill one member of Akatsuki then I doubt that even the combined forces of Leaf could defeat Akatsuki.

When Jiraiya isn't busy acting as Hokage he should be creating all of the useful WMD ideas Hazou can think of. While Jiraiya does that, Hazou needs to be pooring over every single seal he can get his hands on (hello Nara library, how you doin?) so that he can have more seals to choose from to later have Jiraiya alter.

While the rest of the team could probably help him with the WMD research and development process, if Jiraiya really needs them to act as glorified messengers then Hazou is the only one who has to be present in order to dream up nukes (or better WMDs).

We should seriously consider splitting the party, as dumb as that normally is. I don't see any other way we can defeat Akatsuki without utilizing the world's best Seal-master immediately. R&D takes time and production will take even longer. We have to get started now if we want to have the weapons we desperately need by the time we must absolutely have them.

Back to catching up; apologies if I repeated something already posted. Just thought I should throw my $.02 into the ring
 
@faflec, some Ideas:

1) The Pangolin should send a messenger that Keiko has a contract with to the Toads and have him stationed there for a few weeks. I remember someone suggesting that some chapters ago, but back then it wasn't that important.

a) in ~10 days we could basically update Jiraiya everyday if necessary
b) Receive quick emergency orders/updates
c) perhaps receiving additional supplies

We should tell this to Jiraiya, but this doesn't need to happen in the next two hours, but maybe the first time after we make camp.

2) Asking Jiraiya about specific characteristics of the Bird summon (Beak, wings, colour, etc..) and pass this information on to the Pangolin. This is a long shot but if they have any info's this could be helpful.
 
Briefvoice said:
QMs have already stated that they won't be showing you the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny because it would reveal too much tactical information that Hazou isn't privy to.
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Where was that said? I must have missed it.
Enjou said:
Doesn't the line "Do we have authorization to use Skywalkers for speed/stealth purposes?" cover that?
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Whoops, I completely missed that. Sorry, faflec.
Enjou said:
How long would it actually take for a smith to heat things up to that level and get the iron that hot? If it's even close to two hours that's longer than we should take.
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Fair, but we don't have to be there for the duration, just to deliver the missive and then ~20 minutes before we leave to get the flash grenades ready.
Enjou said:
I disagree. Our mission isn't so complicated that we need to bring a Nara into this - those resources are better spent planning out finding and rescuing Naruto. We're just to go and meet up with Jiraiya's spies, give them updates, and help them at our discretion if they have requests. The most complicated aspect of that is the requests, and we don't have any info on that for the Naras to use.
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You mean like when we went to retrieve a scroll up in Tea? :p None of our missions have gone according to plan, I doubt this one will be any different, and we certainly shouldn't go under the assumption it will.

I'm not saying to take up a large amount of Nara time; basically all I would intend to request would be any specialized seals they were willing to spare, with the assurance that we won't reverse engineer them without Shikaku's permission.
 
fiirofa said:
I have only just started Naruto--anyone have a primer on Akatsuki's powers?
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The wiki is a good start. Of course, you may be in for fun times if you rely on canon knowledge too much.

faflec said:
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Can we have a list of the locations we're supposed to visit? Makes it easier to plan routes.
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In progress.

MadScientist said:
@eaglejarl

Do we have shiny new headbands?

What ranks were the team given?
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You can pick them up on the way out. Jiraiya doesn't have the time or attention to spare, so he'll just call you all provisional chūnin (exam pending) and get on with more important work.
 
Cariyaga said:
Fair, but we don't have to be there for the duration, just to deliver the missive and then ~20 minutes before we leave to get the flash grenades ready.
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Well, again, you're presuming it'll take under two hours to get the fire and then the iron hot enough for our purposes. Really though we don't have to make this step here - we'll be traveling, and some village we end up staying the night at will have a smith who can do this.

Also we might want to check with the GMs if we have leftovers from our prior experiments. (@eaglejarl, @OliWhail, @Velorien)

Cariyaga said:
You mean like when we went to retrieve a scroll up in Tea? :p None of our missions have gone according to plan, I doubt this one will be any different, and we certainly shouldn't go under the assumption it will.
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I'm not saying to take up a large amount of Nara time; basically all I would intend to request would be any specialized seals they were willing to spare, with the assurance that we won't reverse engineer them without Shikaku's permission.

Yes, missions get complicated, but without any specific information to say why our mission will become complicated I don't see any use in bringing in the Naras. As far as seals go, we'd have to wake up their sealmasters as 1AM and have them get what they need, and also get Shikaku's permission during this time when he's already going to be super busy. I just don't see it as a good use of time. We have two sealmasters and a good compliment of seals on our own, so I don't think we really need this.
 
Enjou said:
Well, again, you're presuming it'll take under two hours to get the fire and then the iron hot enough for our purposes. Really though we don't have to make this step here - we'll be traveling, and some village we end up staying the night at will have a smith who can do this.
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Actually, I wonder if the smithy is running twenty-four hours a day.
 
bayesclef said:
Other than that, I really like the plan and would be more than a little bummed if lore update winds up winning.
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Eh, if it's a Lore Update we can just take the extra time to vamp the plan up; no loss there. Anyway, removed the Kisame thing because WOG.

New suggestions:
  • Altering how we give our condolences to Jiraiya:
    • We know what it's like to lose a dad and that he'll be there when he gets back.
    • Give a hug if appropriate.
  • Ask for defensive seals from Jiraiya.
  • Splitting up to do stuff.
  • Superheat iron to Macerator flashbang-levels of hot using Elemental Mastery/a smith (if possible).
  • Getting seals from the Nara.
  • Send a Pangolin messenger (contracted w/ Keiko) out through the Summoning Realm to the Toad Clan.
    • Would allow Keiko to summon the messenger to give updates to the Toad Clan, and therefore to Jiraiya.
    • Would allow Jiraiya to send messages to the messenger through the Toad Clan, and therefore to Keiko.
    • Grants rapid communications between Konoha and our team after the 10 day travel time.
  • Ask for Jiraiya to give the Bird Summon details to the Pangolin clan (through Keiko) for information-gathering purposes.
If anyone has any issues with this PLEASE SPEAK UP NOW
 
faflec said:
Eh, if it's a Lore Update we can just take the extra time to vamp the plan up; no loss there. Anyway, removed the Kisame thing because WOG.

New suggestions:
  • Altering how we give our condolences to Jiraiya:
    • We know what it's like to lose a dad and that he'll be there when he gets back.
    • Give a hug if appropriate.
  • Ask for defensive seals from Jiraiya.
  • Splitting up to do stuff.
  • Superheat iron to Macerator flashbang-levels of hot using Elemental Mastery/a smith (if possible).
  • Getting seals from the Nara.
  • Send a Pangolin messenger (contracted w/ Keiko) out through the Summoning Realm to the Toad Clan.
    • Would allow Keiko to summon the messenger to give updates to the Toad Clan, and therefore to Jiraiya.
    • Would allow Jiraiya to send messages to the messenger through the Toad Clan, and therefore to Keiko.
    • Grants rapid communications between Konoha and our team after the 10 day travel time.
  • Ask for Jiraiya to give the Bird Summon details to the Pangolin clan (through Keiko) for information-gathering purposes.
If anyone has any issues with this PLEASE SPEAK UP NOW
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Ahem. We can get seals from the general Konoha sealing library. No idea why we need to specifically go to the Nara.
 
Proposed changes in ORANGE. Note that changes have not yet been applied to the actual plan.

[X] Action Plan: Leaf Leaf

  • General policies:
    • Refer to Jiraiya as Hokage-sama unless he says otherwise.
    • Minami is our squad leader. We defer to her plans, but give well thought-out advice (i.e., the plan).
      • That being said, don't overburden her with too much information.
  • Some quick things for Hokage-sama before he goes to bed.
    • Do we have authorization to use Skywalkers for speed/stealth purposes?
    • Ask if Keiko should send a Pangolin messenger (contracted to her) to the Toad Clan via Summoning Realm.
      • Have we already done this?
      • Would allow Keiko to summon the messenger to give updates to the Toad Clan, and therefore to Jiraiya.
      • Would allow Jiraiya to send messages to the messenger through the Toad Clan, and therefore to Keiko.
      • Grants rapid communications between Konoha and our team after the 10 day travel time.
    • Say that you're sorry for his loss, in Hazou-speak.
      • We know what it's like to lose a dad and that he'll be there when he gets back.
      • Give a hug if appropriate.
  • Talk with Minami.
    • Do this while we're moving to get gear/prep.
    • Trade intel on general abilities/seals/protocols.
      • Make note of how we use Noburi's bloodline to boost our border crossings with chakra (without the risk of running out).
      • (If authorized) Brief Minami on Skywalkers.
  • Get/make supplies (split up to do this):
    • Kunai & shuriken.
    • Rations.
    • Seal-quality paper and ink(stones).
    • Specialized things:
      • Water supply (for Noburi's jutsu).
      • Macerator payloads:
        • Very fragrant things, ideally very fargrant oils for scent bombs. Something that clings to people would be best.
        • Some irritants (like pepper or chillis) for irritant bombs.
        • Very fine ash or talk for smoke bombs.
        • Iron that we can heat for a flash-bang.
          • We can superheat iron ourselves using Elemental Mastery if a smithy is unavailable.
          • Alternatively we just do this when visiting some village with a blacksmith.
      • Portable Skybase.
      • Make Skywalkers (if authorized).
  • Leaf Leaf.
    • Defer to the Hokage and head to Rivers first.
    • Use Skywalkers if authorized.
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Note: I am worried about asking for seals from the Nara Clan/Jiraiya, especially since [Jiraiya] has already given us defensive seals (Goo Bomb, Air Dome) and [Nara Clan] just started their alliance and we don't wanna push them too hard too quickly (IMO). Also on the Bird Summon because 10/10 Jiraiya asks the Toad Clan for intel and the Toad Clan asks the Pangolins (and because this stuff is currently above Minami/Akane's pay grade). I therefore did not add these things pending further discussion.
 
faflec said:
Proposed changes in ORANGE. Note that changes have not yet been applied to the actual plan.


Note: I am worried about asking for seals from the Nara Clan/Jiraiya, especially since [Jiraiya] has already given us defensive seals (Goo Bomb, Air Dome) and [Nara Clan] just started their alliance and we don't wanna push them too hard too quickly (IMO). Also on the Bird Summon because 10/10 Jiraiya asks the Toad Clan for intel and the Toad Clan asks the Pangolins (and because this stuff is currently above Minami/Akane's pay grade). I therefore did not add these things pending further discussion.
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J has all the incentive in the world to provide us means to better defend ourselves. Point re: Nara.
 
Dictator4Hire said:
*Breaks out the Red Folder*

Is sending Hazou out really the most optimal course of action for Jiraiya? The rest of the team is negligible in comparison to Hazou's ability to revolutionize warfare. If a platoon of ANBU, Jiraiya, AND Hiruzen couldn't even kill one member of Akatsuki then I doubt that even the combined forces of Leaf could defeat Akatsuki.

When Jiraiya isn't busy acting as Hokage he should be creating all of the useful WMD ideas Hazou can think of. While Jiraiya does that, Hazou needs to be pooring over every single seal he can get his hands on (hello Nara library, how you doin?) so that he can have more seals to choose from to later have Jiraiya alter.

While the rest of the team could probably help him with the WMD research and development process, if Jiraiya really needs them to act as glorified messengers then Hazou is the only one who has to be present in order to dream up nukes (or better WMDs).

We should seriously consider splitting the party, as dumb as that normally is. I don't see any other way we can defeat Akatsuki without utilizing the world's best Seal-master immediately. R&D takes time and production will take even longer. We have to get started now if we want to have the weapons we desperately need by the time we must absolutely have them.

Back to catching up; apologies if I repeated something already posted. Just thought I should throw my $.02 into the ring
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It's not warmaking ability that Jiraiya needs - it's us out of the city where we can't screw everything anything up. That being said, if and when we get back we really are going to need to make Naruto with his infinity + 1 shadow clones look like a slow learner so that we can make things happen.

Also @HoratioVonBecker I think it would make more sense if ninjutsu can be used at close range but suffer extreme maluses (like -10 dice level maluses), but obviously Taijutsu doesn't do anything at long range.
 
Cariyaga said:
Since we've joined Konoha and his incentives changed with his inducting us into his clan he has given us nothing.

e: Re: defenses that is
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And? He also hasn't given us shit with regards to offensive seals, you going to argue that he should start now? Right when we're about to leave and he's going to go to bed after having one of the most stressful days of his life?
 
faflec said:
And? He also hasn't given us shit with regards to offensive seals, you going to argue that he should start now? Right when we're about to leave and he's going to go to bed after having one of the most stressful days of his life?
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I don't think he'd be well off if his whole clan was dead by his actions because they were too shy to ask for help.
 
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