Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Velorien · Dec 6, 2016

OliWhail said:
Dishonor on me, dishonor on my ancestors, dishonor on my cow....

No, no. This may feel like an udder disaster, but I assure you it is not beyond the pail. Grab the bull by the horns and plough through. On my part, I shall act as behooves a QM and not milk the opportunity for all it's worth.

thamuzz · Dec 6, 2016

Velorien said:
No, no. This may feel like an udder disaster, but I assure you it is not beyond the pail. Grab the bull by the horns and plough through. On my part, I shall act as behooves a QM and not milk the opportunity for all it's worth.

Be thankful that there is no "marked for the attention of unspeakable horrors from beyond the realms of sanity that constantly whisper a mix of uncomfortable truths and off-key showtunes" button.

Kiba · Dec 6, 2016

Dictator4Hire said:
This is a new universe with new social norms to us; we the players have no idea about the set rules of spars here in Konoha or anywhere else in MfD. Such phrasing could be common place and we wouldn't even know. Conversely, BDSM here may have different terminology from our universe and I'd rather keep Hazou ignorant of its nuances if at all possible.

It doesn't matter if they use different terminologies or not, because the story is translated to our benefit.

If they said "zombies", it's their culturally most relevant term for our ideas of "zombies".

Another consideration is that the story is being written for a western audience by westerners with some Japanese influence. So, the writers are going to make the story fit our cultural context, not the hypothetical culture of MfD.

eaglejarl · Dec 6, 2016

@OliWhail : good fix.

@Velorien : I'm glad you pointed that out. It embarrassed me that I hadn't seen it and had been such a trope.

OliWhail · Dec 6, 2016

eaglejarl said:
@OliWhail : good fix.

Ty, it was @thamuzz's idea.

Dictator4Hire said:
Furthermore, when has Hazou ever started thinking about sexual thoughts on his own?

There was the mention of Ino and the beach scene with Akane.

Dictator4Hire said:
Jiraiya also didn't see it coming from a mile away

My justification for this was that in MfD we've seen ninja danger sense not go off for things like e.g. Honami spilling hot water on Hazou.

Dictator4Hire said:
cough* @OliWhail *cough*

Excuse my not being up at 6am to respond promptly

Dictator4Hire · Dec 6, 2016

OliWhail said:
There was the mention of Ino and the beach scene with Akane.

I've forgotten about the beach scene, but when Hazou looked at Ino it was more of an intrinsic thought. What thirteen year-old boy cannot help himself when he sees a developing young woman? That shit's hard wired in his brain; boobs are boobs are boobs.

OliWhail said:
My justification for this was that in MfD we've seen ninja danger sense not go off for things like e.g. Honami spilling hot water on Hazou.

Ah yes, one the memories I've tried to suppress. Hopefully we can weaponize it to our advantage sooner rather than later.

OliWhail said:
Excuse my not being up at 6am to respond promptly

Pssh, you think everyone lives in the same timezone or operates on the same schedule? One whale's 6 am is another eldritch being's happy hour... which may or may not also be at 6 am, but that's besides the point.

Cariyaga · Dec 6, 2016

Dictator4Hire said:
Pssh, you think everyone lives in the same timezone or operates on the same schedule? One whale's 6 am is another eldritch being's happy hour... which may or may not also be at 6 am, but that's besides the point.

I've been up for years! There's a reason you always see me online in this thread. Or it could just be that I never close the tab.

Dictator4Hire · Dec 6, 2016

Cariyaga said:
I've been up for years! There's a reason you always see me online in this thread. Or it could just be that I never close the tab.

We all know it's both.

So what caused you to travel back in time? Was President Hilary really that bad?

Or did something worse happen like a full party wipe?

Radvic · Dec 6, 2016

Dictator4Hire said:
Or did something worse happen like a full party wipe?

*discovers time travel*
*uses time travel to play MfD better*

You know, I wouldn't actually be surprised if this happened (aside from time travel being probs impossible).

Cariyaga · Dec 6, 2016

Radvic said:
*discovers time travel*
*uses time travel to play MfD better*

You know, I wouldn't actually be surprised if this happened (aside from time travel being probs impossible).

The real question is how long it would take the QMs to figure it out. Once they did, it would be less effective, as they could use a form of timeline-independent randomization for ideas (I mean, setting aside that that would be cheating).

And no, I wouldn't be particularly surprised at just about any shenanigans players here would get up to at this point. Highly amused, yes, but surprised? Nah.

Dictator4Hire · Dec 6, 2016

Radvic said:
*discovers time travel*
*uses time travel to play MfD better*

You know, I wouldn't actually be surprised if this happened (aside from time travel being probs impossible).

Well when the amount of time you have to fix things is for all intents and purposes infinite, why not do what you love after solving any number of catastrophes as you please? Hell, you could even enjoy a burning world for a moment and then jump further into the past to fix it if that floats your boat.

Perfected time travel is bull shit like that.

OliWhail · Dec 6, 2016

Dictator4Hire said:
What thirteen year-old boy cannot help himself when he sees a developing young woman?

I assume you meant "can help himself" and answers include:

A gay one.
A blind one.
An asexual one.
One who hit puberty late.

Radvic · Dec 6, 2016

Dictator4Hire said:
Well when the amount of time you have to fix things is for all intents and purposes infinite, why not do what you love after solving any number of catastrophes as you please? Hell, you could even enjoy a burning world for a moment and then jump further into the past to fix it if that floats your boat.

Perfected time travel is bull shit like that.

Yes, if you've also solved the mortality problem. Which, admitedly, is much easier to solve if you can just jump into the future at will.

Dictator4Hire · Dec 6, 2016

Radvic said:
Yes, if you've also solved the mortality problem. Which, admitedly, is much easier to solve if you can just jump into the future at will.

How to fix any problem with liberal amounts of time travel:

Steps:

Get filthy rich through your choice of market manipulation (gambling, stocks, commodities, etc.)
Use your new fortune to invest in R&D of the (e.g. immortality) projects of your choice
Time travel to the completion date
If at first you don't succeed, travel back to where/when things went wrong so you do succeed on the first try.
Rinse and repeat to your heart's content

eaglejarl · Dec 6, 2016

OliWhail said:
Ty, it was @thamuzz's idea.

Right! @thamuzz: good suggestion.

Dictator4Hire said:
So what caused you to travel back in time? Was President Hilary really that bad?

DM: Make a saving throw against "rant about upcoming political disasters*
1d20+?: 19
Class A Success! Only short and calm mention must be made.

Me: Not good enough. I want to let the issue drop completely. I'm burning a point of edge for a roll augment.
1d8: 6

DM: Ok, you can downgrade to "use subtle political humor" and I'll let you put most of the joke in invisitext.

Well, in February of 2021 she did convince Congress to increase funding to the Department of Nuclear Fallout Cleanup.

Dictator4Hire said:
Use your new fortune to invest in R&D of the (i.e. immortality) projects of your choice

I think you meant "e.g." #PetPeeve

Jello_Raptor · Dec 6, 2016

eaglejarl said:
I think you meant "e.g." #PetPeeve

Given this group there's a nontrivial chance he considers that the only R&D worth the effort. #PedantFight #NontechnicalDescriptivist #HashtagsAsLineNoise

Dictator4Hire · Dec 6, 2016

eaglejarl said:
Well, in February of 2021 she did convince Congress to increase funding to the Department of Nuclear Fallout Cleanup.

Tbh, I'd be surprised if she lived that long and I highly doubt that the DNC will nominate her again.

She lost despite having the majority of the media on her side, numerous celebrity endorsements, the current president's support, and her opponent was an overstuffed Oompa Loompa.

She lost to Donald Trump ffs.

eaglejarl said:
I think you meant "e.g." #PetPeeve

Meum culpa. Fixed.

eaglejarl · Dec 6, 2016

Dictator4Hire said:
Tbh, I'd be surprised if she lived that long and I highly doubt that the DNC will nominate her again.

She lost despite having the majority of the media on her side, numerous celebrity endorsements, the current president's support, and her opponent was an overstuffed Oompa Loompa.

She lost to Donald Trump ffs.

Yes, but she had a foreign nation state actively sabotaging her and the head of the FBI helping. Also, I don't think you can say the media was entirely on her side -- if it was, her coverage would have gone like this:

"Today, Donald Trump and <names> accused Hillary of an email scandal. <details> The FBI evaluated it and said that she had been extremely careless but there was nothing criminal involved. Now, let's talk about her policies and never bother to mention this again."

(Later)
"Today, Donald Trump and <names> accused Hillary Clinton of a scandal related to Benghazi. <details> A thorough investigation occurred and it was determined that she actually had nothing to do with it since all the decisions happened at a lower level. Furthermore, two Republican Congresspeople have admitted that the Benghazi Commision was explicitly intended to target Hillary with the goal of reducing her polls. Now, let's talk about her policies and never bother to mention this again."

...repeat for WallStreetGate and whatever other bizarre fantasies Trump et al made up after the first three failed...

Instead, the media spent ridiculous numbers of hours keeping two scandals at the forefront of every voter's mind. Scandals which were either largely or complete fabrications by her political enemies.

GoldenFalls · Dec 6, 2016

Dictator4Hire said:
Tbh, I'd be surprised if she lived that long

She'd be 75 years old, which is not old enough to reasonably expect her to be dead. Unless there's something that is going to kill her before old age. Embarrassment?

Anyway, if I had time travel, I'd be too tempted to make major changes in the quest like manipulate it so we stuck with the swamp village or changed our character choices or something. I always get so curious about how things would have gone.

OliWhail · Dec 6, 2016

GoldenFalls said:
so we stuck with the swamp village

We could always just commit suicide. It would be faster

Jello_Raptor · Dec 6, 2016

eaglejarl said:
Yes, but she had a foreign nation state actively sabotaging her and the head of the FBI helping. Also, I don't think you can say the media was entirely on her side -- if it was, her coverage would have gone like this:

"Today, Donald Trump and <names> accused Hillary of an email scandal. <details> The FBI evaluated it and said that she had been extremely careless but there was nothing criminal involved. Now, let's talk about her policies and never bother to mention this again."

(Later)
"Today, Donald Trump and <names> accused Hillary Clinton of a scandal related to Benghazi. <details> A thorough investigation occurred and it was determined that she actually had nothing to do with it since all the decisions happened at a lower level. Furthermore, two Republican Congresspeople have admitted that the Benghazi Commision was explicitly intended to target Hillary with the goal of reducing her polls. Now, let's talk about her policies and never bother to mention this again."

...repeat for WallStreetGate and whatever other bizarre fantasies Trump et al made up after the first three failed...

Instead, the media spent ridiculous numbers of hours keeping two scandals at the forefront of every voter's mind. Scandals which were either largely or complete fabrications by her political enemies.

Oh come on now. You're forgetting all the other actual scandals. Like the one where Clinton killed an FBI agent looking into her foundation with her bare hands, and the one where she colluded with Wall Street bankers on her plot for world domination by using the TPP to end US sovereignty.

Deathbybunnies · Dec 6, 2016

Jello_Raptor said:
Oh come on now. You're forgetting all the other actual scandals. Like the one where Clinton killed an FBI agent looking into her foundation with her bare hands, and the one where she colluded with Wall Street bankers on her plot for world domination by using the TPP to end US sovereignty.

Oh man, I forgot about that. Was it that someone died at a convenient time or that a whole bunch of people died? Someone supposedly killed themselves in an impossible manner a la Kurt Cobain, but I never cared to see which were exaggerations.

Dictator4Hire · Dec 6, 2016

eaglejarl said:
Yes, but she had a foreign nation state actively sabotaging her and the head of the FBI helping. Also, I don't think you can say the media was entirely on her side -- if it was, her coverage would have gone like this:

"Today, Donald Trump and <names> accused Hillary of an email scandal. <details> The FBI evaluated it and said that she had been extremely careless but there was nothing criminal involved. Now, let's talk about her policies and never bother to mention this again."

(Later)
"Today, Donald Trump and <names> accused Hillary Clinton of a scandal related to Benghazi. <details> A thorough investigation occurred and it was determined that she actually had nothing to do with it since all the decisions happened at a lower level. Furthermore, two Republican Congresspeople have admitted that the Benghazi Commision was explicitly intended to target Hillary with the goal of reducing her polls. Now, let's talk about her policies and never bother to mention this again."

...repeat for WallStreetGate and whatever other bizarre fantasies Trump et al made up after the first three failed...

Instead, the media spent ridiculous numbers of hours keeping two scandals at the forefront of every voter's mind. Scandals which were either largely or complete fabrications by her political enemies.

Jello_Raptor said:
Oh come on now. You're forgetting all the other actual scandals. Like the one where Clinton killed an FBI agent looking into her foundation with her bare hands, and the one where she colluded with Wall Street bankers on her plot for world domination by using the TPP to end US sovereignty.

Honestly, I think everything was doomed from the start with the system America has in place. FFtP means mud-slinging is more effective than talking about the issues and when both candidates get this submerged in filth (true or not) no one wins, someone just loses less. The election was not about who you wanted to win more, it was about who you couldn't stand the thought of running the country.

Picking the lesser of two evils still means you are choosing evil.

Shit's fucked up, yo.

Jello_Raptor · Dec 6, 2016

Deathbybunnies said:
Oh man, I forgot about that. Was it that someone died at a convenient time or that a whole bunch of people died? Someone supposedly killed themselves in an impossible manner a la Kurt Cobain, but I never cared to see which were exaggerations.

It was completely fake news story. The FBI agent wasn't a real person. The town in which it happened didn't exist. The newspaper on which the story was reported was a site designed specifically for making fake news seem real. Planet Money did a recent report on it that was pretty good.

Jello_Raptor · Dec 6, 2016

Dictator4Hire said:
Honestly, I think everything was doomed from the start with the system America has in place. FFtP means mud-slinging is more effective than talking about the issues and when both candidates get this submerged in filth (true or not) no one wins, someone just loses less. The election was not about who you wanted to win more, it was about who you couldn't stand the thought of running the country.

Picking the lesser of two evils still means you are choosing evil.

Shit's fucked up, yo.

Personally, I've been recently convinced that Range voting is the way to go. With approval voting as another option I would happily support.

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