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We failed stealth rolls far too many time. Save some exp so our entire group can be at level 15, yes?

Also, I remembered in the past that the QM would roll the dices multiple time for stealth. Our group of six is really defined by the worst dice roll we can have, and stealth plays too much of an important role in many situations.
 
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I'm 100% behind the Human and Hallways idea in principle. For an Omake, I'd even love to see Pandaa hosts it. I don't think the costs in Intel is worth it, however - better Keiko be "incredible Pangolin Summoner" than "that girl who summoned that awesome DM."

It'd be like people just hearing about the powerful ten thousand shadow clones user and seeing that he uses them to, say, fetch his slippers.


@OilWhail

Regarding Action Plan

Build bridges and genuinely try to make friends; get Keiko involved where possible, and Noburi if he is not doing so on his own.

Noburi is doing fine, but we should leave Keiko be. She is capable of positive social contact, as long as it is on her terms - encouraging her to do so would just irritate her. Keiko is also keeping an eye out and pulling her weights by observing various aspects of the village.

Possible topics of conversation are:

For Asuma:
-He's chaperoning us, if we ignore the fact that we're all deadly assassins. Let Mari chats him up. Actually, maybe she's occupied with handling Kagome.
-Talk about wind affinity? Keiko should appreciate the information.
For Ino:
-She likes clothes, fashion. Maybe talk about styles we saw in other villages? Hidden Mountain's myriad labyrinthine traditions?
-She seems snooty to appreciate the finer things in life. Maybe we can talk about Hot Spring?
-We're interested in treating mental conditions, be they paranoia, martyr complex, insecurity or social anxiety. She is likely knowledgeable about such topics. Not the best idea to talk about such in current company, however. Maybe if the group separates and they somehow assign her to us instead of Shikamaru.
For Choji:
-He likes eating. Mari could cook him something? We could talk about things we ate?
-He is a taijutsu specialist. We could talk about taijutsu - asks for a spar, even, with an offer of buying dinner/going where he wants. We're guests, so we should get to be the one to choose dining place by default.
-He is the least likely to catch any social mind games we try, but also the focus of his team due to the fact. Interacting with him too much might look suspicious.
For Shikamaru:
- Doing things in an efficient manner
- CCnJ
- Respecting his intelligence? Flattery would be suspicious.

We know, from [DATA EXPUNGED], that their contingency plan for suspicious behavior is putting their fingers in their ears and la-dee-dahing really loudly, followed by mind scans. Shika is likely pre-committed to do that if we reach a certain threshold of suspiciousness. Is there a way to de-escalate if that happens?

Share Mist and Missing-nin life trivialities, ask about Leaf (e.g. things we do the same, things we do different)

I don't think we should do this. Reminding them that we're Missing-nin/"Other-village Ninja" just affirms that we're on the outgroup to them, it'd make socializing them harder. We should focus on the things we have in common.

Do any of our minders know where we could find get-well-soon flowers to bring?

This is brilliant. I hope we get a scene at Ino shop - why the heck would a ninja clan owns a flower shop?

Try to minimize Kagome's stress level by not making him talk too much / interact with non-teammates if he doesn't feel like it, keeping close-by, encouraging him to eat any of the nice food we get that someone has already been checked for poison (are there chocolatiers in Leaf?)

Find a chocolatiers or sweets shop should be in the main plan. Choji, maybe Ino, would likely appreciate it. Kagome should appreciate it. Remember when he's an explosive prone recluse that planted an explosive tag on our back but let us live because we had chocolate? Ah, good times.

If the topic of why Fire isn't a model for what Hazou wants to achieve comes up again, consider drawing from

That is, indeed, inspiring speech. But is there a way to work in why Team Uplift is important and realizes this fact whereas other people apparently doesn't? The goal isn't to toot our own horns but increases our relative value toward bringing Ninja Utopia to fruition in his plans.

If for some reason J insists on giving us our rewards

Honestly, I don't think we should even be talking to Jiraiya next update. If we do, however, maybe put the plan in a by-priority order? Shouldn't spend two updates on just rewards.

@Radvic

Watching a play seems like a clever idea to get a good scene, information and social points with our escorts. I'm all for it.

Someone might want to go through the recent update and put one or two things Hazou and/or Keiko discovered in place of this general statement. (E.g. fashion pace, prices)

Observations:

Tiny front "Troublesome."

Shika is vulnerable to Mari seduction. Or rather, largely not more immune to it than other people.

the streets were lined with shops, and smaller merchants sold food and goods off the back of carts. There were buskers on every other corner—musicians, jugglers, and storytellers. None of them seemed to be making a rich living, but they all had at least a few ryo in their hats.

The city seems to be healthy, standards of living higher than average. Probably low poverty.

...and hearing it dismissed so bluntly...well, it wasn't a good feeling.

Hazou grew up poor, so this isn't actually indicative of Ino being extremely elitist. His comments about her nature could well be a subtle bias.

Sarutobi said. "I was thinking more along the lines of the theater district."

A play sounds nice, but also what they want us to do. This can be good or bad.

she was so excited that she was actually using shunshin to move around the store.

Either Ino and Asuma are sloppy, or they're willing to expend chakra for a trivial task. This may be a common occurrence, as neither the shopkeeper nor customers are mentioned either way of being surprised at the display.

this city is so rich that they actually have multiple styles and sizes of clothes lying around their shops. Not only that, but apparently they even have styles that change more than annually, thereby requiring the fashionable to update their wardrobes. And there is enough wealth to support that excess."

Leaf all-expense'd a high-end clothing store frequented by elite clientele.

Akimichi ducked his head in embarrassment. "Yup. It's not really a big thing, though. We aren't better than anyone else just because we're clan, so what does it matter if my dad is the current head?"

Choji doesn't like being treated differently due to being a clan ninja.

Regarding Kagome and Mari:

He was twitching slightly, his eyes flicking around like an animal in a trap, and his knuckles were white where he gripped his weapons. "I hear a lot about you too, and I won't let you do that to my team! If you try it, I'll—"

Kagome said, shaking Hazou's hand off without seeming to notice it and backing away.

Hazou noticed that he was careful not to meet her eyes.

Kagome's panic cut off as Inoue-sensei snagged him in her Sunny Day genjutsu. The tension slid out of his body and he smiled.
"Thanks," he said.
She rested a hand on his shoulder for a minute, giving it a reassuring squeeze. "Sorry, my friend."

Kagome is confused, scared and ashamed of the fact. We should remind him that we can handle ourselves. As well, we should visit Best Apprentice ASAP - her presence will calm him down. Except if, like, she's dead/horribly maimed and tortured, in which case whoops.

Mari is feeling guilty about using Genjustu on her own team repeatedly, not to mention for all we know there's a cost to doing so. Further, we look weak and divided if we need to use justu on our own team to prevent violence. We should talk with Mari about this, and expresses our appreciation of her.

If you want it—and only if you want it—we actually have a psychiatric staff that you could talk to

Presumably, these are civilians. We should get a psychiatric staff for our Future Hidden Village.
 
Is she? I swear someone in the team was a good cook, thought it was Mari for some reason.
 
Y'know, we could get Hazou up to Deception 16 right now.
Ehh, while yes we could, I think there are other things we need more. I'd prefer to keep XP banked until we have either committed more fully to Leaf (and thus are ok training in Leaf areas), or left.

Did anyone mention playing Humans and Hallways with the leaf nin? Its a nice way to spend time and the stress levels will probably go down.
I just want to see Hazou out-munchin Shikamaru.
I support this idea. It seems like a decent ice breaker, something we could do to facilitate conversation, and fun to read.

We could spend a favor to gain Technique Hacking from Jiraiya, and train that up to 10 with 55 EXP
This would be super helpful if we could. I'd prefer this to any reward we currently plan on getting. I also kind of want a scene of someone being like "this is super hard" and Hazou being like "GOT IT" since he's already got the requisite intelligence

Bumping Taijutsu 1 point to 15 and bumping Roki to 7, and saving 56 EXP would make much more sense. Although that might rely on us getting an opportunity to spar or something, and using Roki in a foreign village would be a bad idea, since they don't know it exists.
I mildly like this. If we pass an action plan where we spar, I'd suggest we pursue this. Note I'd make using Roki conditional on us wanting to demonstrate trust to Leaf (trust starts somewhere).

Could we train Stealth easily in Konoha, without causing any incidents?
I hope so. Here's an argument for it: a lot of stealth can be involved in making sure people don't notice you in any situation, including in a crowd. Training stealth while out and about is sensible because we're trying to not draw attention to ourselves, it's more of a "I paid attention to people's reactions and how to minimize them as I walked around" way to level it, rather than a "I kept sneaking around suspiciously" type of skill.

We failed stealth rolls far too many time. Save some exp so our entire group can be at level 15, yes?
YES! Failed stealth is our biggest problem.

I don't think the costs in Intel is worth it, however - better Keiko be "incredible Pangolin Summoner" than "that girl who summoned that awesome DM."
I mean, the people who matter know what Arikada knows: there was a huge rolling ninja-splatter ball that Keiko summoned, and she summoned something cute earlier. This doesn't provide new information aside from that she plays H&H. It primarily seems like it'd be a humanizing element for our team, and may help us.

It'd be like people just hearing about the powerful ten thousand shadow clones user and seeing that he uses them to, say, fetch his slippers.
I'd be impressed by that.

This is brilliant. I hope we get a scene at Ino shop - why the heck would a ninja clan owns a flower shop?
I'm on board. I'll also note flowers are likely actually possible (visiting her is likely not). Also, Ino is likely going to be on our side if she thinks we're in love with her, so it's a good gambit regardless.

Either Ino and Asuma are sloppy, or they're willing to expend chakra for a trivial task. This may be a common occurrence, as neither the shopkeeper nor customers are mentioned either way of being surprised at the display.
I will note that civilians are (generally) terrified of ninja, so also might just be putting up with it. Also, I don't think shun-shun requires chakra? Not sure.

Except if, like, she's dead/horribly maimed and tortured, in which case whoops.
Though, to be fair, the cost of Kagome going crazy seems worth that information.

Mari is feeling guilty about using Genjustu on her own team repeatedly, not to mention for all we know there's a cost to doing so. Further, we look weak and divided if we need to use justu on our own team to prevent violence. We should talk with Mari about this, and expresses our appreciation of her.
Yes.

Presumably, these are civilians. We should get a psychiatric staff for our Future Hidden Village.
Definitely something to keep in mind.
 
Kagome is something we really need to address at some point. It'll need a lot of delicacy. It could start by asking how much of the day he spends afraid and if it's 100%, oh man we really need to figure out something- all that high stress could cause medical complications which would make it easier for enemy ninja to take advantage of him (I'd be really careful about pointing this out because it could become a self reinforcing loop where he stays up to guard against ninja trying to take advantage of his stressed out state weakening him, his body, and his willpower until something breaks).

And while I'm on the subject, I'll muse a little further. Kagome feels like he is the sensei, the old mentor in the Monomyth. The one who passes on knowledge, then dies to make things more convenient for the main character. Well, fuck narrative causality. This is a rational quest, and Kagome is ours. The road may be long and hard, but we have a chance to save him, and that's a hell of a lot more than zero.
 
@OliWhail
Regarding the speech/why Fire isn't a utopia: you could reference the precedence set by Hidden Whirlpool.

[X] Action Plan: Seek a Tree-ty of Friendship
[X] Humans and Hallways

Mini-Omake: Seeking an out

Hazou examined the garment with horrified fascination and dawning dread. He had found it tucked away in a corner of the shop, carefully out of sight of most observers.
In truth, he suspected he had only found it due to convergent intent: he had sought relief from Yamanaka's mad spree and this was the only part of the shop that appeared to be free from her intentions.
Now he knew why.
It was green. It was spandex. He could almost hear proclamations on the subject of youth woven into its fabric. He did not allow himself to become distracted by the momentary synesthesia.
He knew what he had to do, and desperately did not want to.

"Keiko, Noburi, I have a plan I would like to run by you. I am hoping there is some gaping flaw in my logic," he said. He found himself the sudden object of attention not just from his team, but from their minders as well. Looks of morbid fascination and horrified disgust greeted the revelation of the garment in his hands.
"There is a well known adage suggesting that a positive mood can improve an individual's ability to recover from injury or illness. Do you know if there is any appreciable truth to this?"

Noburi gave a noncommittal shrug. "To a degree, yes. It certainly doesn't hurt."

"And, in your opinions, what effect on Akane's mood would it have if I were to, hypothetically, wear this while visiting her? And, during said visit speak positively on the subject of," here Hazou had to pause, steeling himself for what came next, "youth? Considering, of course, that Akane would be fully capable of recognizing my reasons for doing so, and the fact that I would be aware of her awareness, and so on."

"In the short term, it would result in a net uptick in mental state for her. However, the long term implications of such an act would depend on your actions afterwards. What would your intentions regarding the outfit be?" Keiko said.

"I would divest myself of it promptly. Possibly with fire."

"In such case, I would expect the resulting disappointment would cancel out any gains. As such, I would counsel against this course."

Hozou returned the youthsuit to the rack with relief.
 
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Quick thread PSAs:
  1. I have always been cool with the deliberate misspelling of my handle as a meme and continue to have no issues with it, BUT
  2. If you do end up wanting to get my attention, it's helpful to spell it right, since e.g. I almost missed this one
  3. Anyone planning for XP expenditure should probably take into account that Hazou's charsheet is inflated by 10 XP, which will probably vanish from his unspent XP pool into the ether in the near future.
Lying Through Our Teeth
How dare you not name this plan "lying through our treeth" :mad:

Listen, the QMs didn't have much choice - if they'd kept rewarding me we'd be S-rank at this point!

When did Hazou started making lists and flowcharting?

It wasn't in his background story. It was developed?
I believe it was an in-character meme that developed fairly early due to out-of-character proclivities
 
I'm against getting Technique Hacking for now.

In an ideal world, I would like to have both TH and Sealing. But for now, I don't think Hazou should be pursuing it.

The problem is that TH is in direct competition with Sealing for experience, rewards, and research time. For now, I would channel those resources towards Sealing. We still have plenty of different sealing projects to pursue, and pretty much all of them will be more useful for the team than any extra jutsu Hazou could create.


Instead of Deception 16, we could just get Deception 15. That is only 31 XP and it would leave Hazou with some XP to spend on basic ninja skills.


Talking about basic ninja skills (Stealth, TacMov, Awareness), we don't actually have that much loose XP inside the party for them. Most of Nobby's XP is going towards medical skills, and Keiko will need to spend hers on social skills. Not to mention poor Akane, who still needs a MechApt specialty and IS CURRENTLY DYING OMG I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE!
 
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Why are our basic ninja skills seemly always on the backburner?

Because if they are not on the backburner, something else is.

It's also that team Stealth and TacMove scores are limited by the lowest individual scores. Meaning that the ninja with the least amount of loose XP sets the pace on us raising those skills.

EDIT: To be fair, TacMove is actually on the level and Awareness is not too far behind. Stealth is the main sticking point currently.
 
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....huh. So that's why I've never managed to ping you. My brain always parses it as Oilwhale, it took conscious choice to even changes to Whail.
 
Need to either TH to make EM small/shapable or make bigass engines

No, I mean we can use EM to make ice, put the ice in a sealed box with the lid of the box being the lower plate, and then EM the air surrounding the upper plate to be warm.

Edit: I don't think EM passes through solid barriers?

Edit2: Even if it does, we could EM some boiling water to surround the upper plate. Still works.
 
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