Skytowers are also our SOP so it doesn't advantage him much. Unless you can cite specific advanced senses he has I don't think that concern matters much for decision-making.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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Skytowers and SCSA are immobile. They don't help us approach the meeting point unseen. And Orochimaru's conventional senses outrange our SC range severalfold, so he will see us approach and know Hazou!prime's location.
How are you confused after you yourself cited SCSA skytowers as an advantage for Oro?
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[X] Training Plan (Kei & Snowflake): Maximizing RW
Hmm I'm still kinda in the "raise WW" camp.
EDIT: too little to matter right now I think.
How high could we get WDB right now?
EDIT: About 10 levels. I think I would prefer maxing this out actually.
Alternatively, are there any buff stunts Noburi needs?
EDIT: nope not really
Another option: raise CR a few levels. It's 5x more efficient than one of us raising CR and we're about to need to summon a shit load of combatants and clones.
EDIT: Yeah seems good still. 2 levels of CR would be another 100 CP for us to work with. This is my second choice I think.
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Is this rune (the superchiller variant that doesn't break when activated) still under discussion? We might want to use it in the final battle.
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How does he know when we're arriving? Is he literally camped out here every instant of every day waiting for us? I don't think this is realistic.
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[X] Training Plan (Noburi): Maximizing WDB
Water Dragon Bullet 30 -> 39 [157.5 XP]
Shadow Clone 0 -> 1 [1 XP]
41.5 XP remaining
[X] Training Plan (Noburi): Averting Cannai Consequences
Pain Suppression 0 -> 10 [55 XP]
WDB 30 -> 38 [138 XP]
Shadow Clone 0 -> 1 [1 xp]
6 XP remaining
Water Dragon Bullet 30 -> 39 [157.5 XP]
Shadow Clone 0 -> 1 [1 XP]
41.5 XP remaining
[X] Training Plan (Noburi): Averting Cannai Consequences
Pain Suppression 0 -> 10 [55 XP]
WDB 30 -> 38 [138 XP]
Shadow Clone 0 -> 1 [1 xp]
6 XP remaining
I think Noburi should skip one level of Alt and buy Pain Supression 10 so he can lower Hazou's penalties from the Medium during the Rift Assualt.
[X] Training Plan (Noburi): Averting Cannai Consequences
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He (Orochimaru) may not physically be there, but he probably biosealed himself to not need sleep and has Summons watching for him.
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If there's just one Akatsuki pair at the rift site, the member other than Sasori is probably Kisame.
Sasori is likely working off dimensionalism research stolen from us, which means he's pretty likely to be using some refinement of Kagome's approach to rift-opening with graphosealing, which requires tailed-beast amounts of chakra. Kisame is the obvious choice for where to get that.
Secondarily, it sounded like Kisame's hand might've been maimed beyond normal healing, in which case he'd probably have to go to their biosealer for a fix. Though that might bring Itachi as well...
If there's just one Akatsuki pair at the rift site, the member other than Sasori is probably Kisame.
Sasori is likely working off dimensionalism research stolen from us, which means he's pretty likely to be using some refinement of Kagome's approach to rift-opening with graphosealing, which requires tailed-beast amounts of chakra. Kisame is the obvious choice for where to get that.
Secondarily, it sounded like Kisame's hand might've been maimed beyond normal healing, in which case he'd probably have to go to their biosealer for a fix. Though that might bring Itachi as well...
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NB: The canonicity of these events is uncertain, and I do not wish to bet our future on it.
Agreed, that's the reason I'd called it secondary.
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I think my actual credence is something like... 55% that there's only one pair at the rift site when we get there, and if there's just one pair at the rift site, 40% the non-Sasori member is Kisame, 22% on Hidan, 20% on Itachi, 12% on Deidara, 5% on Konan, 1% it's Ami who has joined Akatsuki offscreen
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My point was that approaching Orochimaru is likely to be irrevocable. Unless he really fumbles our initial conversation, we're going to be physically near him.
I don't think that deciding we don't believe him is going to be worth anything. If our physical bodies are within his range, we continue to live only at his pleasure. I do not think much of our ability to disguise our intentions from him so we have to hope that he doesn't take issue with our plans. If he does, I expect him to take decisive action.
Is all of Leaf within his range at all times? I recall us escaping him once in Leaf. That's the distance you're talking about.
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This is a lot of being spooked for what boils down to linear time and being near an Essie. Yeah the things we do are dangerous, we live in dangerous times. We just have to ball anyway.
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I'm really struggling here.
This is an apples and oranges comparison. In Leaf, if he kidnapped and murdered us, he would have faced meaningful sanctions from people with the ability to put the hurt on him.
He is operating under no such constraints now and has a much greater incentive to ensure we cannot oppose him.
This seems really obvious to me - especially the fact that you can't reasonably compare the situation in Leaf and the one we face now. Does it not seem so obvious to you?
Again: I think we should go talk to Orochimaru. But we should do it fully aware of the fact that we're taking a very serious risk, and 'well we could run away from him in Leaf' does not communicate this awareness.
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I agree with this general idea but disagree on the specific detail of him being impossible to flee if we approach with due caution, largely because he cannot actually commit all his resources to lying in wait for us all the time.
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I agree with the sentiment ("we're going to talk to an amoral sociopath with a history of torturous disregard for humanity, and that is a dangerous thing") but disagree with the notion that we could not flee his grasp, no matter the level of preparation.