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Hey man the math doesn't lie
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Hey man the math doesn't lie
If we go for training Diplomacy we could incorporate that into the plan. We don't want to just apologize to Noburi and the rest of Team Uplift, we need to be visibly attempting to make sure something like this never happens again.
Something like:
- After apologizing to the team for our opsec blunder, acknowledge we have a severe problem with making social mistakes and we desperately need to stop doing that.
- Hazou has, over and over, put the team at risk due to his lack of skill. It's become apparent that he can't fix it on on his own; he needs help.
- We would just ask Mari-sensei for even more remedial training after we got back but it's becoming increasingly clear that this is a pretty urgent problem and we'd like to decrease the risk of doing something else catastrophically stupid on this mission.
- Ask Keiko and Noburi for instruction in not being verbally incompetent. They've both pulled the team's ass out of the fire multiple times with diplomacy and they very clearly know what they're doing. We understand that they might not be willing to tolerate our presence right now, and that this is something of an imposition, but we think it's important to make sure we never put the team at risk like this again.
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Oh yes, please test this.
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What?Man I thought @OliWhail was the non evil QM
What in the world would make you doubt my innocence and fundamental goodness? 
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Okay, that was cute.Oh, okay. You can have it back.
Yes, you'll be doing the River missions first and then Sand. And only Minami will go into Sand.
Like? Funny? Insightful? Hugs? Don't make me choose!
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Yet. Growth mindset!
[jk] Action plan: become minor crime lords and try to rob Jiraiya's contacts.
zap lunch
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For Noburu, isn't his barrel based on seals? A few things we might be able to do for him
- Convert his seals so they work on a water skin? Would help him conceal a bit of mana potion, or replace his barrel with something like a camelback.
- We can store chakra ink in a seal. Can we store low-intensity mana potion in a seal? Presumably there's a cut-off point, figure out where that cut off point is, and if it's practical to store quarter-intensity mana-potion in a seal.
- (Horrible idea) Humans are 70% water, right? Convert his seals so they work on his own blood/urine/the-water-in-his-cells. Probably using bracelets or some kind of clothing adopted from the water skin. Would get him closer to a "normal" chakra system.
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Another thing that would be nice is very small seals, something Hazo may be able to make. Wrap a tiny seal in glass, and implant it like an RFID tag.
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Edits made:
- General thoughts added.
- Added a section asking the team how we should address the "Minami knows mist-drain" situation.
- Cannibalized @1234qwerty's apology to Noburi.
- Removed the "Apologize to Akane" note.
[X] Action Plan: Still The Mission
- General thoughts:
- When talking about mission-related plans we let Minami take the lead. We offer suggestions listed below.
- MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW OPSEC RULES THIS TIME
- Maybe talk with Keiko about our plan if we have a private moment.
- Make sure to continue sending messages to Jiraiya via Pangolin. Background reminder
- Get to the other River contacts.
- Use Skywalkers to move from place to place.
- Make sure that when ascending or descending we aren't spotted.
- We should be using chakra water to speed our movements, and refill as needed.
- Whenever resting, do so using Skytower technology.
- Keep a standard watch out for flying chakra monsters.
- Make contact.
- Everyone going to the contact together is too conspicuous (esp. with Kagome and Noburi's barrel).
- Minami will need time to trust us again, let her decide who to make contact and who to watch from a distance.
- Use Henge to turn into the appropriate cover, based on our knowledge of the contact.
- Discuss this beforehand; between Hazou, Keiko, and Minami this should be easy.
- Make sure we're prepared.
- Everyone has the appropriate number of seals: Explosive tags, PMYF, Skywalkers, etc..
- Everyone's topped off with Noburi's chakra beforehand.
- Deliver the message, and ask if they have more messages to send or need "short-term muscle".
- Don't commit to giving muscle to the contact; discuss with the team first.
- General rules for selecting for the mission (not in any particular order):
- We want to take missions that help protect the contact/ensure their safety.
- We don't want to take missions that keep us in the area for a significant period of time (e.g., >1hr).
- We prefer to avoid morally "wrong" situations (e.g., killing so the contact can gain power in the town).
- We want to avoid risks to the mission (i.e., any involvement with rival ninja is a no-go).
- Go to Sand.
- OPSEC concerns:
- Most of our number are still (technically) missing-nin, so only Minami should go. Jiraiya should have written out that part of the plan, or told us before we left.
- Don't bring Skywalkers in case they get confiscated. I'm not 100% on how Sand treats ambassadors but it would be a bad idea to take the risk.
- Make it seem like we came to Sand on foot. Park a Skytower near the Sand-Rivers border and let Minami go in on foot, then come back on foot. We meet them and prep for Tea.
- Talk with the team when we have time:
- Discuss how we're going to fix the whole "Minami knows about Mist-drain".
- Obviously, only do this when Minami is on the Suna trip.
- Take the backseat, since we don't have the know-how on this.
- Also ask if we should send a (second) message to Jiraiya about the current situation.
- Apologize to Noburi.
- We fucked up with telling Minami about your abilities.
- Our desire to integrate Minami into the group quickly and our naivete with regards to secrets caused us to ignore OPSEC concerns since she is a) not in our ingroup and b) in a rival clan.
- To make matters worse, we didn't even realize the magnitude of our failure and needed you (and Keiko, and Akane) to save the day.
- We know how hard you worked to master your technique. It's unfair to ask you to suck it up so quickly just because we're on a mission. If Noburi revealed skywalkers to jiraiaya before we were ready, we'd be devastated. We messed up.
- Words are wind. Hold us to our mistake and only let us know we've been forgiven after we've made a visible effort to correct our mistake.
- Offer to do whatever it takes to make up for our screwup. We recognize we're in the middle of a mission but if there's anything we can do during said mission OR after said mission we'll do it.
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Yeah, I kinda don't TBH. Thing is if there's an actual situation we should (and can) deal with we are pressured into doing so. Hm.
Maybe I'll just get rid of the 1hr thing, and let Minami decide based on time pressures.
Edit: Changed.
Ah. What I was intending to say was "this update looks terrible compared to your remarkably high standard, so I hope you're all right".
No harm done, I hope?
That was not on my list of assumptions, so it was probably an idea you removed from an earlier draft of an earlier chapter. It does make sense, I suppose.
That sounds like one of the things Hazō should override/infer, either building up to it earlier or just skipping the angry part. But then again, I tend to think of MfD as a story more than any sort of roleplay.
It's more like an accent thing, actually - the phrase's cruder uses don't mesh with my read of Minami, who I don't think would make crude jokes at someone else's expense, nor count Kagome as enough of a friend, at that point, for it to actually be friendly. Something less colloquial, like "you're my servant" would work better.
The Superman fic was interesting but not exactly fun to read, and while his Lex Luthor is an interesting villain, he doesn't seem smart or sympathetic enough to actually deserve to win. Also his Superman makes sense, but I normally like Superman, and his version was depressing.
I would disrecommend his Frozen one, though. Partly because a second act twist as big as becoming an unprecedented hard-takeoff Seed AI should have way more buildup, but mostly because the 'romance' was really creepy, and not in the fun way.
Basically, the explanations for the non-self-evident levels of communication, like the pipe, were what I needed to understand the absurdly implication-based communication format that seems prevalent in fantasy courts, and possibly (but far from necessarily) among experienced politicians IRL.
The medieval thing was mostly because, before MfD, I don't recall seeing anything that assumes medieval-ish peasants are actually competent. I only found A Practical Guide To Evil later, and even then, there's much less focus on the ordinary merchants and apothecaries and farmers and bodyguards, just living their lives, far away from superpowered battles and grand stakes.
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Also I'll be honest I just hate these type of plans. It takes no risk. It doesn't give the team any agency. It does nothing interesting. It's an incredibly low exp per day plan which doesn't take any ninja missions. So locks us into low exp for an extended period. When the team getting more powerful now is even more important
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OH OK THEN FINE WHAT DO YOU WANT
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Make one contact. Take whatever job is offered. Work with Kei to develop a combat style.
I'd rather try to farm as much exp out of our trip as possible. Where as you want to take zero risk. We just value different things. You won't change anything but maybe in future plans you might be a tad more adventurous
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These are the rules I set up. Note how I don't say "don't ever take the mission".
Your "zero risk" statement is a pile of shit. And you know it.
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Your words are any involvement with enemy ninja is a no go. So you only except going against civilians. Which is zero risk. So no it's not a pile of shit at all. It's factually correct
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Oh for fuck's...
You know what, fine.
You win.
HEY GUYS LETS GO ON A FUCKING ADVENTURE AND NUKE THE HELL OUT OF AMEGAKURE
BECAUSE RIGHT AFTER WE NEARLY RISKED DISASTER WITH THE WHOLE MINAMI DEBACLE
THAT IS JUST THE KIND OF ADVENTURE WE OUGHT TO HAVE
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Oh for fuck's...
You know what, fine.
You win.
HEY GUYS LETS GO ON A FUCKING ADVENTURE AND NUKE THE HELL OUT OF AMEGAKURE
BECAUSE RIGHT AFTER WE NEARLY RISKED DISASTER WITH THE WHOLE MINAMI DEBACLE
THAT IS JUST THE KIND OF ADVENTURE WE OUGHT TO HAVE
Dude calm your tits. I want to do ninja stuff. You don't. It's whatever
