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Southwest, huh? Welp, guess that's the Raccoons dead.
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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To the best of my understanding Hazou has the entire 3-D picture of the GS downloaded into the IN. So does investigating it mean traveling to the GS and tunneling around, or mediating on the 3-D image Hazou has of the GS in the IN?
It seems to me, that Hazou's IN image would be way better than traveling to the GS, because he can see the entire thing at once, and not just the surface.
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So we get the Conclave moving and within days the Dragons become active, after years of doing literally nothing? (The retributive strike aside.)
That is so absolutely not a coincidence. They have some method of information-gathering. They know at least part of what's coming, and are – what else? – preparing.
We're marching straight into their maws.
That is so absolutely not a coincidence. They have some method of information-gathering. They know at least part of what's coming, and are – what else? – preparing.
We're marching straight into their maws.
Or she took down anything identifiable to ensure we couldn't identify her. She was ready to just be immediately summoned in front of a potentially-hostile adversary.
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Clearly we need to be sent on the advance guard, so that we can be eaten by the Dragons and vote for them to stop.
[X] Action Plan: Happenings on the Paths
Now that's a plan!
@Sir Stompy
I would really like to squeeze in a discussion about selling lithosealing to Orochimaru. It might be slightly better to wait for the cave mission result, but delaying runs the risk of the hivemind prematurely voting in the Oro deal without any onscreen advice from our advisors. A concerning number of people are trying to do this. Please help.
Now that's a plan!
@Sir Stompy
I would really like to squeeze in a discussion about selling lithosealing to Orochimaru. It might be slightly better to wait for the cave mission result, but delaying runs the risk of the hivemind prematurely voting in the Oro deal without any onscreen advice from our advisors. A concerning number of people are trying to do this. Please help.
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Action Plan: Happenings on the Paths
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
FWIW I'm now off this train so it's probably not that many people?
IIRC, It's come close to winning before.
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- Yes.
[X] Action Plan: Happenings on the Paths
The Conclave is a meeting in Pangolin for the clans in the Eastern Continent. The Crusade is the war against the Dragons. I feel we care more about Kumafuwafuwa joining the latter than the former.
IMO this stuff should be in the prep stage, before everything else, and labeled accordingly.
I will observe that Neji is the only one who can get chakra from Noburi: Lee and Tenten are not Summoners and cannot reach Noburi via Seventh Path. Might I suggest:
- Have Noburi on standby during their major delves if they need additional supplies or healing/chakra for Neji.
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- He/Him
Noburi:
1 day, 2 blocks at 3/block = 6
Orochimaru's MedNin notes #3: S: 30, B: 18, R: 27
Hazou:
1 block each, 2/block and 1/block:
Orochimaru's Sealing notes #5: S:24, B:18, R:58
Orochimaru's Sealing notes #6: S:0, B:42, R:58
Orochimaru's Sealing notes #7: S:0, B:21, R:29
Orochimaru's Sealing notes #8: S:0, B:5.5, R:44.5
I am firmly on team wait until the cave mission. How do you think we should do this? Throw a discussion line in with Mari/Kei? It looks like that's gonna be a scene of its own.
Thanks for the suggestions. I will implement them now.
EDIT: Now implemented.
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Nothing has changed since the last time this was discussed.
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I mean a bunch of super powerful bosses marching together in a group must be easily felt by the dragons no? I think that's the most likely explanation here
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
[X] Action Plan: Happenings on the Paths
Do they know the substrate is for us? If they do not, do we care if they find out?
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- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
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- He/Him
Unless this pans out with Tsunade (e.g. she says she can do something about it) or Ino (ditto) I would prefer to avoid saying anything about his mortality. It's going to be distressing for Kuma to think about and simultaneously, I expect that the attitude will be that he's had a good long life and when his time is up, that's it. The reality is that he's ancient for a ninja and honestly even a civilian. Unless we're sure we can significantly improve his quality of life, I don't think this is worth bringing up.
This is more like it. We know he likes the stuff we can get him and that he likes talking to us. We're companionship and he can play with the kids in Leaf. It's a meaningful QoL improvement.
If we can get Noburi to him (is there a Toad in Dog?) or almost any other Summoner, we can probably make a better case. We aren't enough human contact. Seeing another person delights him. It's solid evidence.
A bonus would be Ruri. She'll totally entertain his flirtations if she's warned and she's a pretty smooth talker.
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- Book Fort
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- They/Them
May want to remove this section. Aside from whether or not we actually have the funds to do this, outright stating it is a bit of a faux pas.
Ino knows Hazou, and knows how serious he can be. Ino will be able to tell how important this is to him, and Hazou has a history if going Pretty Damn Far.
Outright stating it is a bit mercenary, and reframes the question away from "do you have this thing" and towards an implicit "how much do you want for this thing?"
It's assuming the Yamanaka have it, which Mari herself was skeptical of. To paraphrase Mari: the Yamanaka would be wealthy beyond belief if they had a cure like that, or at the very least they'd be using it on their own people.
Yes, they know. Their orders from Tsunade were to deliver it to Hazou immediately upon retrieval via the 7th Path.
They don't know why Hazou needs it, but they likely know it is Very Important due to the expediency that the mission has then delivering the package to Hazou.
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The clans abusing their superior political weight to exploit the clanless? In our Hidden Leaf?
With that said, the protections work both ways. Clans have more sealmasters and longer sealcrafting traditions than the clanless, and this setup prevents them from using their larger research output to claim ownership of entire concepts and lock out independent talent the way real-life corporations are fond of doing.
To give a real example of the latter, Nintendo have a patent on a prototype emulator which they 100% never intend to develop or use in any way unless someone else starts using that technology to emulate their games, at which point they get to sue them.
This is true of a lot of things. Hiashi was the first Hokage who couldn't force people to respect the unwritten rules with the mere threat of his displeasure (though Jiraiya, as a single-issue Hokage, didn't really test his power in this regard).
Asuma, but sadly not by much.
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- United States
Yoinking this Bear stuff and adding the super important and super interesting debriefing we need to do.
Seriously, even @eaglejarl says this meeting "looks like fun!"
We have a fair amount of word count so I'm more than willing to add in other things that people want. Just ping me.
[X] Action Plan: Runes and Boons and Bears OH MY!
Word Count: <300 words
- Schedule a meeting with Naruto ASAP.
- Sanity checks: MK
- Address him formally, until told otherwise.
- Clarify upfront the level of OPSEC required for this briefing.
- Topics of discussion (brief Naruto as appropriate):
- The Necromancy Race
- Discuss briefing the Toad Sages and Tsunade
- Overview current situation
- DRAGONWAR/Great Rune Situation Developments (Orochimaru at Conclave, Hyena Accords, Lithosealing, Dragon Movement)
- Confirm extent of his previously briefing of the situation.
- As with Tsunade, maintain lithosealing Clan Secret stance.
- Request permission to demonstrate lithosealing to the Toad Sages.
- Request SC for Kagome.
- Earthshaping & Konoha's Iron Situation
- Later, we should begin exploring the immense economic oppurtunities for Konoha
- Yes, this is our gemstone source
- Make sure Naruto is still on-board with repatriating Mareo, as Asuma was.
- The Necromancy Race
- Visit with Mareo and the Bears
- Update him on everything that's happened. Akane, Asuma, Hazou's injury, the Conclave, the Dragons on the move.
- Don't have an agenda: just talk to him, like he's our respected elder.
- Maintain OPSEC. But share what you can.
- We're going to ask Kumafuwafuwa to join the Crusade. Any advice?
- Kumafuwafuwa
- Would he join the Crusade?
- Bring him up to speed if necessary - find out from Cannai what he knows.
- Apologize for not reaching out earlier. We've had to cajole, convince, and wrangle self-interested, self-absorbed, and intractable Eastern Clans.
- Implication: Bears are wise and thoughtful.
- Bring up the possibility of moving Mareo's Seventh Path exit from Honey to Leaf to Kumafuwafuwa.
- Optimize with Mari hard, this is sensitive and difficult conversation. Don't have it unless she's reasonably sure Kumafuwafuwa won't react badly.
- We have things like world-class human doctors and creature comforts for him as he ages
- We expect he'd still stay on the Seventh Path for the majority of the time.
- Update him on everything that's happened. Akane, Asuma, Hazou's injury, the Conclave, the Dragons on the move.
- Ask Tsunade about Mareo's age-related memory loss during one of our healing sessions.
- Is this something she has any interest in treating or studying?
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I see no reason why we need to have this conversation with Naruto after Mari and Kei literally told us we didn't need to.
They are delivering it to Hazou as @RandomOTP said. I think that this is an acceptable amount of information to release given the stakes right now.
I'll add a conditional statement about the Tsunade stuff etc. I'm not sure what you want in the plan about other Summoners? How does meeting other humans on the Seventh Path help us move him? It seems counterproductive to me.
But come up with a good suggested wording and I'll strongly consider adding it.
To be clear, just the "generous compensation" part? Not the Ino part too?