This chapter was heartrending. We tried, but damn. There probably was a viable alternative. It stings.
Will we even be able to revive Isan's people? Who will keep remembering them? Too few people outside their village know about *any* of them.

Just for re-confirmation - hoping against hope - did Asuma nuke Isan right after the meeting? There is no additional time to scavenge an alternative? (edit: for example, we could imagine an emergency meeting with Kei and Mari right after the EM council)

How could it go wrong so quick. I really hope Akane was not assassinated by Leaf. That... would not feel good.
 
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Well. That's depressing.

That being said, plot points that we didn't follow up on earlier were going to kill them anyways - a sealmaster of any discipline who no longer maintains his tools? The clock was ticking.
Disagree. A sealing failure is more likely to kill the sealmaster than to kill everyone. Isan was as likely to survive it as the Gokētsu estate was.
Despite the horror that was pretty awesome. The juxtaposition of a party and a local apocalypse is pretty dope

Also as upset as people are about Isan getting wiped out, I kind of agree with Shikamaru. If there were another viable way to suppress EM nuke then I'd support it over nuking Isan but tbh we really didn't have a good answer to preventing the apocalypse. IN MY OPINION, moral victory means nothing when it results in everyone dying.

As upsetting as it is that Uplift are the ones who came upon the nuke, Shikamaru is not wrong that someone else would've found it once Isan started handing it out, and ultimately I think it's better that it was discovered.
There was always, always the option of trusting Takahashi. Hell, there was even the option of someone going missing to warn Takahashi in person.
That decision made me want to punch Asuma in the face.
This one just made me think: Ah sweet, "Grim reality far too within my comprehension."
And we have him a WMD. After that.

Honestly, Asuma should probably die for the good of the world. He's the last living person with EM* and might teach it to someone some day. Like Naruto or his Sarutobi heir.


*(Other than the random Orochimaru cultists who are who knows where).
They think humanity is fucked.
I don't think that's how the math works out. Shikamaru's projections had EM be "the lion's share of the risk". That's more than a first among equals by a narrow margin. Whatever the chance of EM destroying civilization, that now got converted into a chance of survival (for at least another 100 years) in Shikamaru's eyes.
Well it was great knowing you all, but I'm pretty sure 'MC being party to a genocide that was portrayed as necessary' is going to get this Quest absolutely annihilated by the moderators. EM was one of those things that would have been wiser to retcon away than permit 'rational' extrapolations of.
The genocide wasn't necessary. The MC just didn't know how to convince his dictator of that.
 
Paint-Thickener Seal: Multiple elements define a polygon within which dimensional barriers are reinforced. Summoning and seal-activation become more difficult, requiring more chakra and a Resolve check. Extra-dimensional entities such as summons and out-creatures are weakened, suffering the effects of a medium consequence.
 
Paint-Thickener Seal: Multiple elements define a polygon within which dimensional barriers are reinforced. Summoning and seal-activation become more difficult, requiring more chakra and a Resolve check. Extra-dimensional entities such as summons and out-creatures are weakened, suffering the effects of a medium consequence.
That does feel like something we should develop soon. I also like the name.

We could deny all Seal use within the boundaries of Leaf, and even mitigate the Out consequences of Sealing failures if we do Sealing under it and just eat the Resolve check which we should be capable of. The former significantly mitigates the risk of the EM nuke, which we know the OPSEC is compromised on. The summon/extra-dimensional thing could be used to prevent Dragons from crossing into the Human Path too, at least in the vicinity of a major village at least. That and prevent Summoners from Unsummoning from the Seventh Path.
 
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This and the interlude describe a scene that is worse for humans, but nothing suggests it's worse for humanity. There is an actual difference. Maybe life sucked back then, but humanity was still going. Apparently villages can't last more than a century without leading to extermination.
Yes, under the Warring States period it's extremely likely that villages wouldn't be surviving more than a century. Civilians had to go full nomad to not be constantly raided and/or killed by ninja, and ninja had to be moving constantly to keep themselves from being attacked by other ninja. Under this system, ninja aren't going to be exterminating chakra monsters to protect the villagers, since they aren't going to be living in the area long enough for it to benefit them, and they don't care about civilians enough to protect them.

But under the Hidden Village system, they actively post chakra beast extermination missions to help protect civilians and civilian settlements. No, they don't survive for extended periods of time because ninja are still ninja, but they are still surviving longer than they were previously.

If your definition of humanity flourishing is that they have to live longer, then the Hidden Village system works.

If your definition of humanity flourishing is that they have to live longer than a century, then the Hidden Village system doesn't work, but neither has any system that came before it (to EN records, at least), and the Hidden Village system is still superior by that metric to those that came before.
 
Some kind of feeling rereading the Isan Arc. Heavily recommend.
"You're letting me go?" he said doubtfully.

"Looks like," Mari said, surprise in her voice. "You might have noticed that we didn't start this fight. We were just passing through when your animals attacked us. We've been trying very hard not to hurt them or you."

"Why?"

Mari thought about that for a moment, then sat down so she was straddling the branch and could slump back against the tree trunk, bumping Kagome out of the way as she did so. Her head tipped back and her eyes fell closed as though she were exhausted. For a moment her face was not that of the seductress, the laughing jester, or the unstoppable jōnin. Instead it was the sad, tired face of a women on whom life had been pounding for far too long.

"Because I'm tired of killing people," she said. "Tired of killing and lying and seducing and hurting. I'm just...tired. I don't need to kill you, I don't want to kill you. Just go, okay? Don't make this a fight when it doesn't need to be. Take your friends"—she waved vaguely at the angry tapirs and the unconscious humans—"and go. We'll need a few minutes for our medic-nin to check us all over, then we'll get off your turf."
The forest nin shifted slightly. "Medic-nin are real?" he asked.

Mari opened her eyes enough to give him a raised eyebrow. "Yeah," she said. "You guys really have been out of touch for a while, haven't you?"

He hesitated but nodded. "Yes," he said. "There are stories about medic-nin. Can they really raise the dead?" He was trying to act casual but failing.

Mari's half-smile was just as tired and sad as the rest of her. Her eyes fell closed again and she rolled her head from side to side in a gesture of negation. "I wish," she said. "If they could...well, there's some old friends I'd love to talk to again." She sat still and silent for long seconds. "A lot of old friends."
"You have knowledge we lack," Yoshida said. "Knowledge I think will outweigh the harm you do merely by being here. If you keep your screw-ups to a minimum, we might be able to come out of this with both sides enriched, and nobody being blown up or trampled to death.
Inoue-sensei studied the older woman thoughtfully for several seconds. "You keep talking about my team's screwups," she said calmly. "I think perhaps there is some confusion here. From where I sit, my team has been nothing but polite and generous, and has been very poorly treated in return.

"Your tapirs attacked us on sight," she shrugged. "Fair enough, they're animals. It would have been easy for us to kill every one of them, but I instructed my team not to hurt the tapirs while we waited for you to show up. When your team showed up I tried to parley. They ignored me and attacked immediately. I demonstrated that we had complete martial superiority, but deliberately chose not to kill anyone and I kept the breakage to a minimum. We came here voluntarily to treat your wounded, despite having no obligation to do so. We've done that for days now, making no demands on you. We made a friendly offer to train with anyone who wanted to. Your thug was offensive to my team, but they remained polite and professional. Kimiko sparred with him; when he discovered that he wasn't good enough to beat her he turned it into a lethal fight. He would have killed her if I hadn't intervened."

Inoue-sensei's face got hard. "We've been extremely tolerant, but no one hurts my students and walks away. You're very lucky that all I did was cripple your brat. Where we're from it wouldn't have been nearly so gentle; if a Mist ninja had attacked a representative of a friendly foreign power, that Mist ninja would have been executed and reparations made to the foreign ninja in order to prevent a war."
She paused, studying the older woman again. "History and geography lesson," Inoue-sensei said. "Your village is in the Land of Tea, which is a second tier country in the Elemental Nations. West of Tea is the ocean, this section of which is known as the Hanguri Gulf. On the other side of the Gulf is the Land of Fire, the most powerful country in the Elemental Nations by a good margin. Five or six of the most powerful shinobi in the world live there. One of them, possibly the second most powerful, is a man named Jiraiya. He's known as the Toad Sage, and he's the spymaster for Fire."

Yoshida shifted slightly, frowning in confusion at the seeming non sequitur, but she didn't interrupt.

"We met Jiraiya a little while ago," Inoue-sensei said. "It was an interesting meeting. The first thing he did was kick all of our asses at once, just to prove that he could. He made the point that once the question of power levels was settled we could get on with reasonable discussion. We knew we couldn't kill him, we knew he didn't want to kill us, so there was no reason for tension.

"I think I'm going to take a page from the most powerful non-Kage ninja I've ever met," she said. "Time for you to face facts: my team and I represent a level of military force that your village has never faced before. We're Elemental Nations missing-nin. We've got this far by surviving everything the real big players had to throw at us. Oh, you might eventually manage what they didn't, but the damage you suffered would be catastrophic. How many ninja can this tiny village afford to lose?

"Or we could get away. In fact, I'm sure we would. We've walked out of bloodbaths you can't imagine in your safe haven. And maybe we'd just leave with everything we know. Or maybe you could hurt or kill one of us, and then we'd stay. You think you have the upper hand because you know the terrain? See how your hunters do against an apex predator from the real world. Watch your patrols stop coming back until your military's reduced to whoever was smart enough to cower behind the walls. Do you have the slightest doubt that we could do this?"
"Do you have any doubt that we could turn into the biggest disaster in Isan history if we really wanted to?"
"Good," Inoue-sensei said. Her tone got friendly again and she smiled. "Then let's put this on a better footing. We don't want to hurt you, or upset your village. Honestly, we think you guys are amazing to have built what you've built while staying completely off the map for so long. I think we could really help each other a lot, and I would like to. We'll leave if you want us to, but it would be a missed opportunity for both sides. Do you want us to go?"

Yoshida chewed on the lemon a little longer. "No," she finally said. "As much as you're going to flip everything upside down, we need to establish contact with the outside world in a controlled way, and you're our best chance to do that."
"Hm?" the injured girl said, her voice muzzy with sleep. "Oh, hi sensei. Yes, 'm 'wake."

Inoue-sensei knelt down beside her. "C'mon, kiddo," she said. "I need you to be really awake for a bit."

Akane blinked and rubbed her eyes. "Okay," she said. "I'm awake."
"Personally, I'm fine to have the little bastard carrying slop buckets for the rest of his life, but Keiko pointed out that you were the one hurt so you should be the one to make the call. What do you want us to do?"

"Save him," Akane said instantly, not even pausing to think about it. "He is a good fighter and a benefit to his village. He should not have his life ruined by one impetuous mistake."
Akane's eyes were already drifting closed, but she smiled up at her teacher. "He will be all right, sensei," she said. "He just needs a good example." She half-lay and half-dropped back on her pillow and was out like a light.

Inoue-sensei watched her for a moment, then shook her head. "Okay, kid," she said. "We'll try it your way for a little while."
"Noburi studied at an excellent hospital in a city not far from here, in fact. A lovely place; several thousand people, many artisans. They produce beautiful glass, paper, books, medicines, and more. Quite safe too, since they have a large police force."

"It sounds interesting," Gasai said. "It's a pity I won't be able to see it. I fear I'm far too old for such a trip."
"There's one other thing," he went on after a brief pause. "Apparently, they are planning to summon the Demon King to lay waste to all that is good and pure. They've just been waiting for sacrifices who aren't of their own blood."

Keiko choked on the water she'd been drinking.

Inoue-sensei raised an eyebrow.

"Still no good?" Hazō asked worriedly. "I've been practising my deadpan like you told me to, Inoue-sensei, but I don't think it's improving my social skills at all. People keep taking me seriously, and then things just get awkward."
"Let me tell you something, child," he said slowly. "I am not an elder because I have the strongest ninjutsu in the village. There are some among my children who can challenge me as an equal, and soon there will be more among the younger generation.

"I am not an elder because I am a cunning manipulator. I have little love for the games that predators like Tsukiko play, and less talent.

"I am an elder for one reason only: I have the rare gift of seeing what is in front of my eyes.
"That was not a request," Takahashi told her flatly. "You cannot best me in a battle of wits. You cannot pit your will against mine. The only thing you have with which to win my favour is the truth."
"I offer you a contract of my own. You will trade ninjutsu exclusively with the Takahashi Family. You will follow my guidance in matters of village politics, which will almost entirely consist of abstaining from them. You will consult with me before following the directions of Yoshida Tsukiko or any other elder. You will take no lives here, not even in self-defence. You will tell no one who was not born in this village of its existence or location."
"In return, I will take the necessary steps to deliver you that which you seek, and to make you ready for it—not for your sake, but for my people's. Any medicine can become deadly poison in hands that have forgotten its proper use."
"In the meantime, your group will tread lightly. You will show openness and willingness to learn, and respect for our culture and traditions. You will share what you wish when others seek it, but you will not preach that your ways are better ways when you have not yet mastered our own. You have not earned that kind of trust, and to tread carelessly invites only your own destruction. Above all, do not present yourselves as a threat. If blood must be spilled before this is over, it cannot be you who spills it."
"Run!" Kōta shouted. "Run! They're going to kill us all!" He blurred forward at fully chakra boosted speed.
"STOP!" Akane bellowed. "IT IS NOT YOUTHFUL FOR FRIENDS TO FIGHT!"
Akane dropped gracefully to her knees, lacing her fingers behind her neck in mirror of Hazō's position. "I did nothing wrong," she said calmly. "I voluntarily surrender myself to village justice."

"Akane, get up!" Kagome shouted in horror. "Don't let those stinking ninja stinkers take you!" He raised a kunai to throw—
"Get back, you stinking stinkers!" he growled. "Leave my team alone or I'll blow you so high up you won't come down again!"
In the actual event, Kōta's 'clever strategem' fell apart faster than tissue paper in a rainstorm. Even his grandmother couldn't stretch far enough to suggest that Akane had actually instigated the incident. The best she could do was to let him keep his ninja status but be put on punitive duty for six months.

Unfortunately, Inoue-sensei walked in while Keiko was reviewing Hazō and Noburi's assassination plans. As their jōnin commander she gave them a direct order to avoid all contact with Kōta and take no action against him. She also refused to be swayed by even the most dewy of puppy-dog eyes. It was frustrating.
"No buts!" Inoue-sensei said. "Well, except for Gasai, whose head is a butt. We'll deal with him later. For now we just need to be cooperative. Now, who wants to play some board games? I could go for a little Strategic Domination, myself."

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In the actual event, Kōta's 'clever strategem' fell apart faster than tissue paper in a rainstorm. Even his grandmother couldn't stretch far enough to suggest that Akane had actually instigated the incident. The best she could do was to let him keep his ninja status but be put on punitive duty for six months.

Unfortunately, Inoue-sensei walked in while Keiko was reviewing Hazō and Noburi's assassination plans. As their jōnin commander she gave them a direct order to avoid all contact with Kōta and take no action against him. She also refused to be swayed by even the most dewy of puppy-dog eyes. It was frustrating.
"Fascinating creatures," Takahashi said. "They form villages, build giant and complex hives, and manage a complex society. It is a warlike society, though. If members of two anthills meet, they usually go to war and the smaller hill is wiped out. The ants from the larger hill will go down the tunnels of the smaller one, wipe out every ant they find, and plunder the food stores and other treasures of the smaller hill."

He paused, sipping his tea in thought. "I often wonder about this warlike nature," he said, his voice far away. "Ant society is so rigid, with no possibility for change or growth, no option to find different ways that might be better. There is only one queen, of course, and she is guarded with religious fervor. Suppose there were no queen? Suppose ants from another hill snuck in and stole her away? What would the remaining ants do with no queen? They would need to find a new purpose in life, and perhaps that purpose would allow them to become more than they had been."
Hazō groaned in belated realisation. "The Demolitionist is the real culprit, isn't he? All those cards you've been playing on the Diplomancer were just a bluff."
With the Demolitionist having hit his paranoia limit, and the Analyst refusing to use her goodwill ability on the Apprentice, Hazō was doomed unless…

"Keiko!" he shouted with unalloyed delight. "How are you?"

Noburi spun around sharply, his elbow knocking over the board which Hazō had carefully nudged into position a split-second earlier.

"I have learned that our world is a tiny bubble of sanity within a universe so alien that our thoughts cannot make the shapes required to describe it, and that to gaze upon the true face of reality is to invite a madness that is both torture and liberation," Keiko said in an even voice. "But other than that, I am fine. Thank you for asking."
She'd considered this. Offensive techniques that could be used against the group were, for obvious reasons, a bad idea. Defensive techniques were fine as long as they didn't counter the group's actual abilities (which meant, for example, that the Wind Wall Technique was right out). But best of all were utility techniques. A village which hadn't seen serious ninja vs ninja combat for a very long time would likely value them much more highly than the outside world did.

"Are you familiar with the Zephyr's Reach Technique?"
Takahashi's eyebrows rose. "I am a Wind Element user myself, and I know our ninjutsu library backwards, yet I have never seen anything like this. Yes, I would be grateful to learn the Zephyr's Reach. In fact, if an ability of that kind were combined with…"
"We're all really grateful for how keen you are to protect us. You're an important member of the team, and we all feel that way about you too."

Kagome-sensei grunted, and turned away so as to suggest that the seal in front of him required his absolute attention.

"But there are better ways to go about it than blowing people up the second they look like they might be becoming a threat."

Kagome-sensei turned back towards him.

"You're saying…" he said slowly… "that... I shouldn't… blow up… threats."

Suddenly, Hazō could see altogether too much of the whites of his eyes.

"Ah, crap. You've been experimenting with seals again and something's gone wrong and now your mind's been shunted sideways to a parallel dimension where everything is insane and soon you're going to start with the rituals and there'll be spiders coming out of everyone's eyes and—"

"Kagome-sensei!" Hazō cut him off. "I haven't been experimenting with seals. I'm just saying you need a more nuanced approach."
"Wouldn't want people to think I was crazy. Bad things happen to sealmasters who go crazy. Long range artillery-type bad things. Wait. You don't think I'm crazy, do you?"
"Funny," Kagome-sensei said in a musing voice, "Uchinomiya-sensei used to say the same thing. 'Explosives are the right tool for any job, but not for every job. If you rely on them too much, they'll stop being the best weapon in your arsenal and become a crutch for a tactically crippled mind.' I always wondered what he meant by that."
Takahashi nodded. "Oh, yes. In a climate such as ours, a technique that raises or lowers the temperature of a room to comfortable levels is nothing short of invaluable. We teach the Elemental Mastery Technique to all our children as soon as they're ready to learn ninjutsu."

Mari looked at Akane.

"I'd love to learn it!" Akane exclaimed. "I mean, it's a technique designed to support your teammates and make everyone happy. What could be more youthful?"

Mari bit down on her first, second and third retorts.

"Aren't you concerned by the lack of combat applications?" she finally asked in a carefully neutral voice.

Akane shook her head. "Hazō-sensei will think of something. He always does."
Yuno gave him an incredulous look. "... A marriage begun in rain will end in tears. Don't they know that where you come from?"
"Don't ever lose track of that. I mean, yes, there are things you should try to do better in the future, like not drawing out dangerous fights, and being more careful about whom you trust, but on the whole I think you did very well in some challenging circumstances."
"And you. You've been doing sterling work with your healing. You're the main reason this village likes us, and that's essential to what we're doing here. Also, you're about the only one of us who's managed to consistently stay out of trouble, which is a bigger deal than it sounds."

"Um," Noburi said. "About that…"
It was even larger than Gasai's and, unlike hers, was carved into the mountain itself. The cave was immense, easily thirty meters on a side and twenty high. It had obviously been the labor of generations of workers who had smoothed the walls, installed torches for light and braziers for heat, and tiled the floors in a mosaic of elegant slate, each piece of which was delicately carved. The carvings blended together into a spiraling design that stretched from the walls to the center of the room, drawing the eye to the man who knelt atop the dais there. A massive woven rug, so large it must have needed multiple ninja to carry it, was spread in the middle of the room at the base of a platform on which the eldest Kannagi knelt.
Inoue-sensei flashed a wicked grin. "Thank you, sir," she said gratefully, raising her voice just a fraction. "My student is awkward and unschooled in your ways, but he is thoroughly smitten with your granddaughter, and he's a good boy. He...."

During the following several minutes of Inoue-sensei listing his various flaws (and dismissing them as 'not so bad, he's just young') and virtues (all of them phrased in the most embarrassing way possible), Noburi prayed to every kami whose name he'd ever heard that the earth would just swallow him whole. Sadly, his prayers went unanswered.
An awkward silence fell as neither of them spoke or moved. He took care not to look at her eyes, instead keeping his gaze on her ear. His peripheral vision reminded him that she was very visibly a year or two older than he was. He found himself wondering if perhaps Keiko would develop similarly...
"It is not something I can speak of with outsiders," Keiko said, the smile vanishing. "I can only say that he considers me very swift to grasp the theory, and that the disillusionment with the nature of reality has not afflicted me as deeply as it might have another. After all, I am here only through the uncaring cruelty of the universe."
"You have been spending too much time around Ishihara if you believe otherwise," Keiko replied coolly. "Perhaps as Hazō-sensei, you should live up to your responsibilities and make her see the world as it truly is, rather than the other way round. It might prevent any further incidents like Kōta's."
"The retainer may not speak unless spoken to, which they are generally not. They are discouraged from moving or doing anything else which might distract the elders, and there are seals placed in the hall to make sure that they do not attempt to influence proceedings with ninjutsu. For all intents and purposes, they are part of the background."
"Many of you must wonder why I have allowed my own beloved granddaughter to become betrothed to one of the intruders so many of us fear and hate. But I say to you that this is the way forward. Soon, they will be bound to us by ties of blood, and their incredible, all-healing power of medical ninjutsu, as well as the other lore of the outside world, made to work for the benefit of the village under the guidance of the Kannagi.

"Indeed, in this we see a glimpse into the foreigners' hearts. Instead of insulting us and our ways by finding an excuse to reject the betrothal, as a true barbarian would, they have shown openness to the diplomatic approach I have pioneered. It is on this path that we can make use of all that is good in them, drawing out their virtues and subordinating them to our own. We must bind them to us not merely with words but with ties of every kind, until their power is our power, and it is the wisdom of the elders that dictates how and why it is to be used."
"I agree with my esteemed opponent that the foreigners cannot be allowed to run amok, but rather must be dealt with on our terms. But I believe he does not go far enough. They must not merely be allied with—they must be assimilated. At any time, they may leave, taking the secret of our existence with them, and the only way to prevent that without bloodshed is to make them a willing part of this village.

"They say they are 'missing-nin', exiles in search of a home. Let us give one to them. We shall welcome them, and have them learn our ways, until in the end they are no longer foreigners, and their children, or perhaps their grandchildren, are seen fit to guard the sacred scroll. Their bloodlines shall enrich our own, and their arts shall become our arts, not through a process of thoughtless intrusion, but naturally over the years, subject to the authority of the elders in exactly the same way as we are all subject to the authority of the elders. And if they choose to reject our kindness? Well, a healer like myself knows that sometimes sick flesh must be excised for the good of the body, and has means of doing so that do not require direct confrontation.
Meanwhile, the elders exchanged glances. They did not confer, nor make comments or ask further questions, which struck Mari as strange. But then again, these people all knew each other. Each knew how the others would vote, and each knew the candidates well enough that there would be little to ask. Small communities were easy to govern—and easy to undermine if you could successfully infiltrate them to begin with.
"I infer from some of Kagome's more terrified ramblings," she went on, "that one of the most disastrous kinds of sealcrafting accident involves interfering with the boundary between this world and others—worlds whose inhabitants, environment, or even fundamental laws may be inimical to our own."

Hazō nodded again, impressed at the succinct summary.

Keiko's eyes glinted like ice as she turned to look straight at him.

"Summoning involves interfering with the boundary between this world and others when it is successful."
"So...," Hazō said. "Yoshida tried to manipulate us and get us under her thumb. Gasai's grandson tried to kill Akane, twice. Kannagi is actively betraying us. Takahashi practically extorted Keiko into that deal. I've got an idea. How about we burn this place to the ground, grab the scroll, and run?"

"No," Keiko said. "I must complete my training in order for the scroll to be of any use. Besides, Takahashi-sensei has been good to us. He has dealt honestly throughout, and destroying his village would be poor repayment."

"Are you kidding?!" Noburi demanded. "He dragged you into his den like a spider grabs a fly, threatened you, extorted you, and then mousetrapped you into this ridiculous agreement that—"
"He wants to teach," Keiko said quickly. "He wants to pass on the knowledge that his family has safeguarded for gen...." She trailed off, recognizing the foolishness of the words even as she spoke them. "No," she said heavily. "I believe he enjoys teaching, but you are correct. He is not teaching me just for the sake of teaching. He is teaching because he feels that me having the contract will be beneficial to the village."

Inoue nodded. "Right. From what he so-carefully didn't say during our conversation, I think he wants us to get the contract and get it out of town so that they can stop being a village of sacred guardians and start being a village."

Hazō started to say something, but Inoue-sensei cut him off. "Yes, I know," she said. "He's a liar and we can't trust him and so on and so on. I get it, but that's part of his job. He's a ninja, and a clan elder, and a politician. No one in that job can afford to be completely truthful, and so far he seems to have played it reasonably straight."
"Sensei...," Keiko said. "Sensei, I do not want to break faith with Takahashi-sensei. He has been very good to me. He will give us the scroll if we stay true to him, and harming his village would be poor repayment for his kindness."

Inoue-sensei nodded, but her smile was sad. "I'd like it if things worked out well," she said. "If you finished your training, and got the scroll, and we never had any more problems with the villagers. That's just...not the way I'd bet in this situation. We're too much of a disruption to their way of life, and when Takahashi gives us our shot at the scroll it's going to get worse. If he sneaks us in then we're stealing the holy of holies. If he proposes it to the village and tries to get us permission then it's going to be the same as punching a hornet's nest. I'm willing to give him the chance, see if there's some way to make it work, but I'm not willing to have any of us get hurt. I hope you can accept that."

Keiko bowed her head. "Yes, sensei," she said quietly.

"I promise we won't start anything," Inoue-sensei said gently. "I'll do everything I can to work with Takahashi, to make this all go smoothly." She sighed and settled back. "It's funny, you know? We left Mist with the goal of founding a hidden village, and here we are in a hidden village. In theory we could settle down and assimilate. We could even form our own clan, perhaps. We could give the villagers modern medicine, ninjutsu, taijutsu, hundreds of years of advancement in seal theory...so much. They could give us a home, a safe place to shelter. In time, maybe friends or lovers."

Her eyes were miles away and her voice wavered as she said, "It could be nice, I just don't think it's going to happen."

"Why not?" Hazō asked. "You said they were talking about assimilating us."

Inoue-sensei sighed and blinked back to the current moment. "Yes," she said. "But that's just it—they were talking about assimilating us, not welcoming us. The discussion was more military than social. Look at the language they used: Kannagi talked repeatedly about binding us, subordinating our virtues to theirs, making our power their power. He didn't talk about binding us and the village together, he didn't talk about our virtues blending. It was all in terms of dominance and submission, and he made it clear that he expected to be the dominant." Just for a moment her lip twitched in the tiniest hint of a smile but she didn't speak the thought that had clearly flashed across her mind.

"Ganta was even worse," she continued. "He explicitly said he wanted to assimilate us, not ally with us. He made it clear that if we didn't accept their welcome then he'd poison us.

"Then there's the whole village hierarchy. Ganta made a point about how Kannagi's bloodline only came to prominence a century ago. I've seen that attitude in small villages before; unless your ancestors were there when the village was founded, you're from 'away'. If we did stay we would always be second-class citizens. Our great-grandchildren would still be second-class citizens. I'm not going to take that from a bunch of hicks who thought that med-nin were a myth."

Silence fell as everyone digested that.

"Kid's right, you know," Kagome said, not looking up from the seal blank that he was infusing. "It'd be easier just to blow the place up and steal the scroll. Let Jiraiya finish her training."

"Yes," Inoue-sensei said. "It would be easier. I think, though, that for once I'd like to do something right instead of something easy."
"That's my life," Hazō said. "It's like there's a big catalog of every motion I've ever made, right behind my eyes. If I'm not thinking about it, the Iron Nerve will choose one based on my subconscious intent and replay it. I'll walk, or run, or tumble, exactly the way I did before. If I am thinking about it, then I can choose from the catalog, select which action gets replayed, but it's still exactly like the first time. In order to learn a new motion I have to concentrate on turning the Iron Nerve off. I have to focus on reacting...well, I can't say reacting normally, because for me the Iron Nerve is normal. I have to focus on turning the Iron Nerve off so that I can move on my own."

"Okaaay," Noburi said, clearly confused.

"You don't get it, do you?" Hazō asked. "I'm a windup toy except when I remember to be a person."

Noburi blinked. He opened his mouth to say something, then closed it again and thought. "Okay," he said finally. "I see why it bothers you. I'm still hating on you for the abs and the jaw, though."
"Have you tried not being a loner when everybody avoids you?" she demanded angrily. "I'm supposed to be a good little girl, and follow all the rules—but that won't stop people calling me cursed, or saying I'm a shame to my family, or spreading horrible rumours many of which aren't even true, or being afraid I'm going to go crazy and attack them or something when I've never seriously hurt anybody! And then somehow I'm supposed to make strong bonds with people when no one will even look me in the eye."

"Sorry," she said awkwardly. "I know it's not your fault. I'm not shouting at you.

"Anyway, that's why, when Grandfather mentioned to me that he was looking for someone to make contact with the foreign ninja, I volunteered faster than lightning. You didn't grow up here. You wouldn't judge me for something that—allegedly—happened when I was just a child."

Yuno gave a wide smile. "And I was right." She glanced around to check how far away the minders were, then quietly added something else.

"I have a future now that I could never have imagined, thanks to you and your open heart."
Hazō silently prayed to the Sage of Six Paths, who had gone far beyond this in his exploration of the true nature of reality and survived. Then he activated the newly-infused seal.
"If it came to light that we'd attempted to blackmail an elder," Inoue-sensei went on, "the villagers would wipe us off the face of the earth, or at least try to. Kannagi knows that, and he knows we know it. There's no chance we'd try to expose whatever secret of his we found out. To say nothing of what it would take to find out a suitably dirty secret within the time frame we're working with."
"As it happens, Lorekeeper, I see wisdom in the passion of his youth," Yoshida suddenly said of the calm middle-aged man. "After all, winter is upon us, and in winter even a lice-ridden garment may be used, though it shall surely be burned come spring."

Aida stood up. "One pure in body and mind can endure the winter even naked!" She said loudly, her expression tense. "Better that than to invite parasites within one's home. After all, is that not why we have temperature-regulating ninjutsu?" She looked meaningfully at Takahashi.
"Oh." Noburi didn't turn to look at Hazō—they'd been drilled about that sort of thing now—but he seemed somehow more focused. "I don't know, Hazō. I mean, I don't want to leave her here. She'll never be happy in this village. And… I do like her. If I just left her here, I'd always regret it.

"Except if she came with us and it meant somebody else getting killed, I'd regret it even more. And Yuno… I don't think she's been taught all the things that people are supposed to get taught growing up. About right and wrong, and self-discipline, and other stuff.

"It's not like we haven't added people to the group before. We brought Akane with us, and Akane is awesome. And we brought Kagome with us, and Kagome is batshit crazy, and even that's working out OK. But maybe the lesson to learn from that isn't 'recruit as many scarily unstable people as you like'? I dunno, Hazō. I don't feel like there's a right answer here."
Against the canvas of his inner eye, space and time turned themselves in and out, purple became H#, and the taste of salt paraded itself across his ears. Sweat beaded on his brow as a tiny voice in the back of his mind whispered that he was going to get it wrong, that all of Kagome-sensei's dire warnings were going to be proven right—creatures from the interstices of reality would tear out his eyes and then climb through the bleeding sockets to devour his brain. Or his face would melt into a deformed puddle, closing off his nose and mouth so that he died of suffocation. Or a mis-infused tag would simply explode and kill his team.

Whenever the fear got too bad to focus while infusing he would put down his brush and focus on breathing until he was calm again, then went back to work.
"It is all right, Kagome," she whispered. "Please, trust me. I need this if I am to be strong enough to protect you all."

Kagome paused, looking as though he'd swallowed a gallon of bugs soaked in urine. Reluctantly, he withdrew his hand.

"If you don't come back, I will destroy this village," he said, in a voice that was not nearly as quiet as Kei would have preferred. He shot Takahashi a glare, then looked back at Kei, his eyes blazing with nigh-fanatic intensity. "Boom. Squash. Crater. I promise."
"Here are the terms of the summon contract. You may negotiate with any of the Pangolin Clan for permission to summon them, should you have the power to do so. We will fight for you with all our skill and all our might, for the honour of our ancestors and the glory of the Pantokrator. In return, you will fulfil any individual agreements you make with my subordinates during those negotiations. You will accept missions to further our goals on the Human Path. You will make no common cause with the clans that oppose us, or their summoners. Is this acceptable to you?"

Calming down now that she anticipated surviving the next few minutes, Kei took time to consider the terms. After the unfortunate events with Takahashi-sensei, she was determined to take greater care this time.

"What do you mean by 'should you have the power'?"

"The more power a pangolin draws from the nature chakra of our world," Pansā explained, "the more difficult it is for them to manifest in yours. Your skill as a summoner, and the human chakra you have to spend, will limit whom you may summon."

"And the missions in the human world?"

"The clan wars are brutal, but they are also subtle. After so long without influence on the Human Path, it will take time to determine how you may best be used. Assassination of enemy summoners is the most likely, sooner or later. Regardless, I do not assign my resources carelessly. Any tasks will be well within your abilities, and will bring their own rewards."

Enemy summoners. Was Kei making common cause with enemy summoners in cooperating with Jiraiya? If so, mentioning the fact could be dangerous. But having it discovered some other way would be worse, and although Pantsā claimed little knowledge of the modern world, he did know what a missing-nin was. What sources of information did he have available to him? Was there in fact such a thing as mind-reading ninjutsu?

"What about Jiraiya, the Toad Summoner? Is he an enemy?"

"Jiraiya?" Pantsā echoed. "Ah, I see. Of course. No, Mori Keiko. The Toad Clan and the Pangolin Clan have long had common foes, which is the strongest bond two clans can possess. If, however, you encounter the summoner of the treacherous Tapir Clan, show them no mercy, and if you discover the lost Condor Clan summoning scroll, cast it into a volcano or drown it in the ocean. For the rest, alliances are as trees, rising and falling in the blink of an eye. When it is necessary, you will be briefed."

Kei nodded. "Can I refuse missions you give to me?"

"If you have compelling reason," Pantsā replied. "Consider it as if you were a mercenary—you are never forced to accept missions, but refuse too many times, or show disloyalty, and your employer will sever ties.

"Know also that if ever you betray the Pangolin Clan, you will be brought here to stand trial no matter how you may try to hide. Do not think us powerless merely because we cannot manifest on the Human Path on our own."

"What if I ever want to withdraw from the contract?" Kei asked.

"You and I may both end the contract at any time, without cost. But know that such a thing is not done lightly. You will never be able to serve as the Pangolin Summoner again, and your actions will be made known to the many clans of the Seventh Path."

"Now, if you have no more questions, I will have your decision."

This was it, then. The moment of truth. Kei was uneasy about entering into a second mercenary arrangement in addition to the one her team had with Jiraiya. And having to face enemy summoners in battle was a frightening thought if any of them were like him. And the idea of having to negotiate for her summons, to have to persuade people—people with alien cultural backgrounds, and mentalities and body language even more mysterious than that of other human beings—was nearly paralysing.

But this was what she had come here for. It had been her decision to seek the summoning scroll. Not Hazō's. Not Mari-sensei's. This was something Mori Keiko chose on her own, a corner of her life in which she could plant a flag and say, "This is mine", even more so than the bloodline she had been given by her family. Perhaps, a tiny voice inside her whispered, with enough such flags she might be able to reclaim the self she did not remember losing.

"I accept the contract," she said, feeling a mixture of relief and apprehension as soon as the words were out. She could feel them falling away like a heavy stone into a pool of water, sinking too deep to ever take back and sending countless ripples into the future.
Over the weeks of her training Kei had seen the Isan tea ceremony done nearly every day. It had been performed for her alone, for her and Minori, and for her and various combinations of the Takahashi clan. She still was not completely fluent in it, but she had learned to read the basic elements. Usually Minori was the one who actually handled the tea implements; the fact that Takahashi-sensei was performing the ceremony himself, and that the only people present were himself and the three genin...she found herself sweating, hoping desperately that Hazō and Ishihara would not humiliate her in front of her teacher.

Her eyes grew wider as the ceremony progressed.

Takahashi-sensei began by washing the tea bowls with hot water from the kettle, afterwards emptying the water into a pot intended for that purpose. He did not turn the cups towards his guests as he dried them. There is trust and respect between us; you do not need to examine the cup for residue or poison.

He dried the first cup with a bleached-white napkin, then swiftly folded the napkin into a circle and lay it to his left, on the imaginary line connecting himself with Ishihara. The sun, provider of warmth to all those around it, it meant...but also lack of wisdom, bringer of harm through carelessness, depending on the intent of the host. He set her cup at the sun's seven o'clock position, indicating that the intent was mostly the positive with some hints of the negative.

The second napkin was laid between himself and Hazō, folded into the stylized shape of a tapir. Loyal, strong, protector, but also young, not too bright, in need of a minder. The cup was placed at nine o'clock.

Kei held her breath as her own cup was dried. Takahashi-sensei's fingers danced through the motions of origami with speed born from a lifetime of practice, forming the napkin into a mountain lily. The mountain lily grows even in the tiniest crack on the sheerest cliff face. Your strength is that of the lily: determined, resilient, indomitable...but it also meant fragile, lacking in physical strength, uncertain, precarious. He paused, looking up and meeting her eyes for just a moment. The blood drained from her face as he nodded very slightly; his eyes flicked down, drawing her own gaze to the cup as he set it down.

A finger's width to the right of twelve o'clock.

He met her eyes again; the tiniest of scraping sounds echoed in the silent room as he slid the cup to the perfect twelve o'clock. Time passes, character becomes.

Kei swallowed as the room seemed to spin around her from shock. The world went blurry for just a moment, and when she came back to herself she was holding a cup of tea.

Takahashi-sensei raised his cup in salute and all four of them drank together. The tea was aromatic, a base of black with hibiscus, anise, and something spicy. Strong, not bitter, a touch of sweet and a taste of tart. Complex, good and bad, worthy of analysis.
Takahashi-sensei nodded. "So I'd gathered," he said. "When a summon tells you it is time to go, it is time to go." He lifted his tea to his lips for a moment. "It is with great sorrow that I hear you are required to take the scroll with you. Since the founding of the village it has been our treasure, the center around which our village has turned. Things will change enormously now. We shall need to find a new center."
"And, as if the pangolins weren't enough, we also need to get in touch with a contact of ours. He's a high official in Leaf, the most powerful ninja village on the continent, and we occasionally work with him. He seems to trust us, at least somewhat, so I'm sure he'll have a great deal for us to do."

The marble of which Takahashi-sensei's face was made became granite. "I'm sure he will," he said with a polite nod. "Such a man must be busy all the time. I'm sure he never gets out of his office." The air became heavy with something that was not quite killing intent but that hinted at the possibility.

"That's definitely true," Hazō said hurriedly. "Very busy. Probably sleeps in his office all the time. I'm sure he never has a chance to travel."

The granite softened slightly and Takahashi-sensei nodded. "I hope he finds interesting and lucrative employment for you."
"Hazō spends an extraordinary amount of his time observing and planning. He rarely makes errors, though they tend towards the catastrophic end of the scale when he does..."
"Ishihara is delusional when it comes to the realities of shinobi life. She is not deceitful, in fact to a fault, so you may trust any factual statements she makes, but her interpretations are often flawed and to be taken with a significant amount of salt. Which is a metaphor indicating scepticism. She is also fanatically devoted to an obscure philosophy she calls 'the Spirit of Youth', which again is poorly adapted to life in the shinobi world and not something you should seek to emulate."
"Ishihara, you're back!" Noburi gave her his best attempt at a friendly nod. "Where have you been?"

Her smile was as genuine as his wasn't. "I was just visiting Yuno."

"You what." Noburi's mouth fell slightly open. Of all the members of their little squad, Akane was the last one he'd figured to be suicidal.

"We spent some time hanging out by the river," Ishihara explained, "eating dango and sharing the last of my chocolate supply, and talking about how awful boys are and promising we'd stay friends no matter what. It would have been unyouthful to do any less for a friend in need."
"It's going to be OK, Wakahisa," she said softly after a few seconds. "Sooner or later, one way or another. As long as your heart stays youthful, it will heal any wound in time. I believe in you. And I believe in Yuno too. She's endured so much, and it's made her strong. Both of you are going to be all right."
Kei still believed, on an intellectual level, that taking the scroll would lead to a brighter future for the village. Hiding away from the world in order to protect yourself could never be an effective strategy, because there was nothing you could do to avoid being hurt in a world like this. At least if the village took the initiative in reaching out, it would have some measure of control over the outcome, for good or ill. And besides, their single-minded devotion, their belief in a future that even they seemed to know deep down could never be realised… to Kei it could be nothing but tragic.
"I will return," Keiko said, surprising even herself. "I will not always be a thirteen-year-old girl.

"You may take this as a new prophecy if you so wish. I will return, and as the Pangolin Summoner, I will repay Ui's debt to Isan, and my own as well."
 
You'd think so, but that period lasted way longer than villages have so far and somehow humanity is only ending soon after villages are established.
It'd be good to know which of Kagome's sources/timelines are relevant, because if the war jutsu or prior demographics stories are to be believed, the Village era only started after well over 99% of the progress to doomsday was made. Given the ridiculous events as of late, some of which we caused, I'd consider two things - one, our history is not representative of EN history, and two, something is happening but 70 years is too short a timeframe. Villages aren't sufficient, but clearly they're necessary. Except if a literally-a-legend-character shows up, disunited Clans couldn't deal with the Dragon threat, for instance.
 
But in the end we stood aside and let it happen. I think that's enough for the mods, but I hope I'm wrong.
Please drop this now. Repeatedly going "I expect the mods to come down on us for this" is only going to promote the possibility to their attention, or to that of some misguided lurker who might report us (as may well have happened with the Uchiha threadlock).
 
Some kind of feeling rereading the Isan Arc. Heavily recommend.
This unfortunately isn't readable, since SV cuts off quotes inside of a quote or spoiler.

Well it was great knowing you all, but I'm pretty sure 'MC being party to a genocide that was portrayed as necessary' is going to get this Quest absolutely annihilated by the moderators. EM was one of those things that would have been wiser to retcon away than permit 'rational' extrapolations of.
As @Velorien said, please drop this because all it does is put the idea in the heads of readers who might not otherwise have thought the quest reportable. If you wish to discuss further then feel free to DM me.

That said, I'll make one final response in the interest of giving that hypothetical reader some counterbalancing thoughts: the destruction of Isan is mature content handled in a mature way, depicted as a negative event, enacted by a character [Asuma] who is at best morally grey, and respects the humanity of all concerned. It is well within the rules.


First, here are the site's Rules.

A summary of what happened in the chapter: "a military dictator wiped out a village. This was unambiguously portrayed to the reader as a negative thing. It was not done based on hatred of a group. The people of that village were explicitly humanized when they could easily have been left as faceless and unnamed NPCs. The main character railed against it and fought to have it not happen. The destruction happened offscreen."

Let's look at the specifics:

Rule 2: Don't Be Hateful
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We also expect that you will treat others with a modicum of civility and dignity. In particular, you must be willing to treat them as people. Revenge fantasies (Internet Tough Guy-ing) - whether against fictional groups, like the Na'vi, or against real groups, like the Taliban - are unacceptable. While there is more leeway when it comes to historical or fictional groups, a community that is willing to devalue outsiders is not the welcoming one we are trying to build.
There is no revenge happening.
We treated the Isanese with respect and humanized them.

Rule 6: Acceptable Content on SV
  • Content on Sufficient Velocity may be aimed at mature readers and they may contain mature elements, but they cannot be pornographic or exploitative.
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  • Handling content maturely is not fetishizing or glorifying violence, hatred, or abuse.
  • Handling content maturely means including high-impact elements harmoniously and appropriately within a greater context.
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There are generally four gradations of content on SV, and they should be handled in a progressively more mature fashion.

The least mature content - the kind of thing you'd find rated no more than PG-13, like episodes of Star Trek or My Little Pony or what have you - there are essentially no restrictions. Nothing need be spoilered, and it can be as terrible as you like.

E.g. two adults wake up next to each other in bed, a Klingon is vaporized by phaser fire.

Content which has mature themes but is also widely acceptable - Lingerie advertisements, Mass Effect Andromeda, Dragon Age: Inquisition - (where sex and violence are implicit and/or handled in a larger context), should not be pornographic and should be handled with at least a minimum level of maturity. That means that images must be spoilered, tagged, and be appropriate for the context in which they appear. Text should also be tagged and appropriate for the context in which it appears.
Emphasis added above.

The rules explicitly state that Star Trek is considered acceptable so long as it's handled carefully. Star Trek contains a vast array of offscreen events similar to the destruction of Isan. Off the top of my head: Farpoint Station; the World Eater; that alien who exterminated an entire species because they killed his wife, then lived with an illusion of her and almost drove Deanna nutty with his music box.

The rules explicitly state that Mass Effect Andromeda is considered acceptable so long as it's handled carefully. I have not played the Mass Effect games, but my understanding is that they include a bioweapon (the genophage) which wipes out most of a species (krogans), the creation of a slave species (the Geth), brainwashing (Saren and the Geth breeding an army of krogan slaves), and the genocide of a large portion of humanity by the Reapers.


Final thoughts:

Quests and stories on SV are allowed to contain elements of moral horror so long as it is handled in a mature and sensitive way.

If you wish to discuss this further, please take it to DM.
 
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:mad: Refreshing worked for me but posting so many quotes without commentary felt weird except the primary commentary is look at this after reading chapter 600 and let your brain do things. Leave it? Edit or delete?
I'm fine with it. There was a sense that they were curated.

Reminder to all that voting is currently open only for Conclave plans. Please save the training plans until the next cycle.
 
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