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Should probably remove Naruto or just make us discuss adoptions so as to not fuck with time
Should probably remove Naruto or just make us discuss adoptions so as to not fuck with time
Yeah it doesn't really make any sense to me either. Now a middleman's fee I could at least see the logic to.*rereads section*
Wait, so the issue is that because Keiko negotiated the trade herself she has the rights to the gold even though she's just a third party negotiator between the Goketsu (who have the seals) and the Pangolins (who have the gold)? ... alright then. Deleting.
The Nara might co-opt us in that and then make the seals, but I would argue then that Keiko and the Pangolin are in breach of contract if they accept it.I never quite understood the issue with Keiko delivering the seals. If the Nara tried to insist that they were the ones getting paid now, wouldn't we just stop supplying them? And refuse to start again unless we're getting paid? It's not like Keiko can make the seals.
Removed the Naruto section for the sake of retroactivity. @Inferno Vulpix could you put said section into the cache?
Plan Cache:
- Adoptees: Akane & Tenten
- Meet with their families, since this concerns them as well.
- Offer to adopt them into the Gouketsu. Explain what that entails and all that.
- Make contact with the Snakes.
- Learn about Snake culture/predispositions from Pangolins, Toads, Jiraiya's notes...
- Send Jiraiya's letter to Orochimaru to the Snakes (via Pangolin messengers).
- Orochimaru could have faked his death; either way, he should have it.
- Also, did he leave a will with you guys? He's been pardoned and we'd want his wishes to be carried out.
- Consider the possibility of getting on their good side by selling them seals that keep them safe from Pangolin expansionism.
- Acquire the Snake Scroll
- Hazou takes lead, bringing Mari (manipulation) and Keiko (Intimidation).
- Go directly to the Tower and take the Scroll.
- We're Lord Goketsu and are acting on the direct orders of the Hokage, let no-one stand in our way.
- We have been lawfully charged with Saving The World, and summon scrolls are invaluable resources that will clear numerous problems for Uplift.
- We have a right to the Snake Scroll by the letter and spirit of Jiriaya's order, we only need to get that through to the bureaucrats holding it.
- Brandish Orochimaru's pardon and will as applicable.
- SAN check with Keiko: if you aren't trained at Summoning is it dangerous to sign the scroll or can you just not use it?
- If it's safe, sign immediately.
- Incidentally, it's quite possible there's no-one who'd be willing to teach Hiashi how to Summon in the first place.
- Suggest trading to the Pangolins an OPSEC-sanitized list of seals to sell, as they've requested.
- Rewards: While gold/valuables are nice, we could also ask for from conquered nations' jutsu (Condor Space-Time Jutsu?).
- We'd also like to do something about their treatment of conquered nations. <Help>
- Pangolin Gold Crisis solution ideas:
- Selling to the Pangolins with the Toads as an intermediary.
- Selling the seals from Goketsu to Keiko at full price with he re-selling to the Pangolins.
- Designate the Pangolin Scroll as an official Goketsu clan treasure, such that all proceeds from the scroll are also Goketsu clan treasure.
- Hokageship:
- Inform Naruto about the vote.
- Discuss swing votes:
- Hagoromo: Help pay off their loans?
- Aburame: Can Mari get him on our side again?
- Inuzuka: Leave to Naruto; he's trustworthy and hasn't soured relations with them.
Past Plans:
Growing Goketsu, by Inferno Vulpix
Forming the Party, by Oneiros
Party Growth, by faflec
Our Brother, by Evenstar
Sometimes when we're making a plan we have a good idea that's just outside the temporal scope of the update, but we don't want to cut it from the plan because we might forget by the next cycle. This adds unnecessary words that could have been spent fleshing out the rest of the plan, and may outright cost XP in the worst cases.
This plan cache will hold these subsections so they don't fall into the void between planning cycles. Just ping me with the subsection and, unless it's wildly unreasonable, I'll edit it into the post. I'll keep them there for a while until they either make it into a winning plan, fall out of favour, or the context significantly changes. Depending on circumstances, they might end up in my Side Project Cache, or they might be dropped, and I'll make sure to be transparent about what I'm doing.
I'll do my best to quote this post after every update, so that planmakers can get an easy reminder about what we never quite got to last cycle.
It does if one of the following is true:
They have to reverse-engineer the skywalkers to do that, though. Which might well be doable, but I don't know if any sealmaster of theirs could have had access to them thus far? Which makes it a concern that needs to be addressed, but not any time soon?The Nara might co-opt us in that and then make the seals, but I would argue then that Keiko and the Pangolin are in breach of contract if they accept it.
Pangolin probably won't like it either. We have a bunch of their shinies.
Well @faflec plan has us starting to do thatThey have to reverse-engineer the skywalkers to do that, though. Which might well be doable, but I don't know if any sealmaster of theirs could have had access to them thus far? Which makes it a concern that needs to be addressed, but not any time soon?
I am suddenly wondering why we aren't doing exactly the same thing for the Toads, though. Jiraiya must have had a reason. Maybe they aren't interested, or he was on such good terms with them he felt obliged to give them for free, or as an ongoing debt for Sage mode, or something?
Our deal with the Pangolins is based on 5SB, not Skywalkers.They have to reverse-engineer the skywalkers to do that, though. Which might well be doable, but I don't know if any sealmaster of theirs could have had access to them thus far? Which makes it a concern that needs to be addressed, but not any time soon?
It's the skytower seals we are selling.They have to reverse-engineer the skywalkers to do that, though. Which might well be doable, but I don't know if any sealmaster of theirs could have had access to them thus far? Which makes it a concern that needs to be addressed, but not any time soon?
Maybe we should add explicitly asking Keiko what she meant and why she thinks it is uncircumventable to the plan.It especially doesn't matter if Kei is willing to argue this narrative.
Done.Should probably remove Naruto or just make us discuss adoptions so as to not fuck with time
[X] Action Plan: Speaking of Unity
Word count: 226
- Adoption:
- If others agree, immediately make offers to:
- Akane (meet her together).
- Tenten (send only Keiko).
- Discuss Lee:
- He's talented, and adrift after Gai's death.
- His personality could be mitigated to minimize friction (soundproofing, house rules...).
- Maybe consider inter-village adoption (Doigama, Kato...)?
- Family matters:
- Mari: Update her. What's she been doing lately?
- Kagome:
- Give him Jiraiya's sealing notes.
- Check/remove notes on Kagome's private seals beforehand.
- Is he willing to teach adoptees sealling?
- Noburi: Schedule an appointment with Kabuto to check bloodline interactions with SC/Summoning.
- Yes, the Toad Scroll should be his.
- You can also investigate him on adoption.
- Keiko: Pangolin trading
- Possible solutions for Skytower-deal concerns:
- Selling seals using Toad intermediaries.
- Designate the scroll as a clan treasure, that directly belongs to the Gouketsu.
- Offer them a list of seals (OPSEC-sanitized!). Trade them for:
- Valuables.
- Jutsu, especially conquered nations' (Condors' Space-Time Ninjutsu).
- Improved treatment of conquered nations.
- Gather information on Akatsuki
- Noburi: Visit the Tower, grab their profiles.
- Kagome: Summarize their book.
- Contact the Snakes.
- Learn about their culture/predispositions from Summons and Jiraiya's notes.
- Message them via Pangolins.
- Send Jiraiya's letter to Orochimaru. (Orochimaru could've survived/faked his death.)
- Ask whether Orochimaru left them a will. Jiraiya wrote a pardon for him and we want his wishes carried out.
- Idea: Keiko advocates a Pangolin-Snake-Toad alliance conditional on the Snakes backing a Gouketsu Summoner.
Note that Hazō started to talk about adoptions but Keiko cut him off.We tell Akane that we want to adopt her and she agrees. At the same time we do not contrive a reason for keeping that a secret from Naruto.
Found it:Note that Hazō started to talk about adoptions but Keiko cut him off.
We should probably ask her what's up with that? Except not retroactively, obviously."In seriousness," Naruto said, looking at Hazō and taking a deep breath. "If I'm not competent to be Hokage, then I'm probably not competent to be a Clan Head. Hang on! Don't get too excited there, Mr. MEW. I'm still taking the seat. I've got way better PR in Leaf than you guys do, and having me as the nominal head will go a long way towards legitimizing the Gōketsu. Still, at least for a while I'll probably have to leave most of the day-to-day stuff to you, if that's cool."
"It's cool," Hazō replied, smiling. "I've got some ideas. Like, first of all, there's the subject of—"
"I note that we have not actually confirmed the votes of the other eight clans," Keiko said quickly. "Naruto has named nine votes for Hyūga. Opposed to him will be the Gōketsu, the Ino-Shika-Chō, the Uzumaki, and the Senju. I am guessing the Sarutobi and the Minami will also oppose him."
[X] Action Plan: Speaking of Unity
Word count: 231
- Adoption:
- If others agree, immediately make offers, contingent on Naruto's future approval, to:
- Akane (meet her together).
- Tenten (send only Keiko).
- Discuss Lee:
- He's talented, and adrift after Gai's death.
- His personality could be mitigated to minimize friction (soundproofing, house rules...).
- Maybe consider inter-village adoption (Doigama, Kato...)?
- Family matters:
- Mari: Update her. What's she been doing lately?
- Kagome:
- Give him Jiraiya's sealing notes.
- Check/remove notes on Kagome's private seals beforehand.
- Is he willing to teach adoptees sealling?
- Noburi: Schedule an appointment with Kabuto to check bloodline interactions with SC/Summoning.
- Yes, the Toad Scroll should be his.
- You can also investigate him on adoption.
- Keiko: Pangolin trading
- Possible solutions for Skytower-deal concerns:
- Selling seals using Toad intermediaries.
- Designate the scroll as a clan treasure, that directly belongs to the Gouketsu.
- Offer them a list of seals (OPSEC-sanitized!). Trade them for:
- Valuables.
- Jutsu, especially conquered nations' (Condors' Space-Time Ninjutsu).
- Improved treatment of conquered nations.
- Gather information on Akatsuki
- Noburi: Visit the Tower, grab their profiles.
- Kagome: Summarize their book.
- Contact the Snakes.
- Learn about their culture/predispositions from Summons and Jiraiya's notes.
- Message them via Pangolins.
- Send Jiraiya's letter to Orochimaru. (Orochimaru could've survived/faked his death.)
- Ask whether Orochimaru left them a will. Jiraiya wrote a pardon for him and we want his wishes carried out.
- Idea: Keiko advocates a Pangolin-Snake-Toad alliance conditional on the Snakes backing a Gouketsu Summoner.
I'd still prefer to see some mention of brainstorming ideas for taking the Snake scroll, so that we either have more information to work with or we can drop it as unworkable. Under OPSEC, obviously.Discord proposed that we hinge our adoption on talking to Naruto first, I hope my version works:
These two things are from the winning plan of the chapter before we met Naruto. Both don't really have any immediate political implications.