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moar edits, this time to the Naruto section and wanting to be friends with Chiyoko.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Can you consider cutting down to clan debrief for now? It's very unlikely that the QM will get past the first two sections. And that rushing Naruto might backfire.
Also, it would be great if people vote for lore update in addition to lore update: jiraiya's final moement.
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^ this implies *much* longer timescale from this plan than I thought? I think we're aiming for one or two days for this plan; unless the funerals are very very soon this seems off.
Also unsure why this is ISC specific. We should generally attend any services that we're invited to, or ones that are open and it seems appropriate.
[X] Lore Update
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[X] Action Plan: To Stride Forward
I'd love to not rush Naruto but we seriously do not have time. Hiashi will call a vote on the next Hokage as soon as he can, and we need all our political ducks in a row before that happens. That's what this plan is about right now: the poltical setup so we're in a strong position to contend Hiashi, in the next few hours if need be.
If we take our time and don't rush Naruto then for all we know, we lose. We can't afford to take an hour or two to bond and grieve first.
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Can we ask Tsunade about Naruto before meeting him? Prevents bad surprises
That's fine. I'll add it.
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We can destress and grieve with him over the course of like six hours if he's lucid before launching into 3ish Machiavellian plots though.
If Hiashi walks into Leaf while everyone is still reeling and calls for a vote immediately, everyone is going to be mega salty and flip him the bird.
If Tsunade is even mildly operational she would kill him on the spot.
ISC would be FURIOUS. Sarutobi would be mad.Minami would be pretty pissed if they ended up losing their clan head in the fight. It looks super bad optics wise to everyone else.
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No.
We hadn't thought of it but it seems reasonable -- when it wraps up some day. As much as we can even release the docs; so much of it is just in the QM logs and older versions of the docs.
There was a typo in the chapter. It should have said "Akame was comforting Minori." Akame with an 'm', not Akane-your-ex-girlfriend.
NB: This is not to say her name isn't Akane Akame. You don't know.
HDK, but it would be a reasonable guess that Tsunade brought it home in a storage scroll.
Point of information: In MfD Tsunade is well respected [EDIT: by everyone in Leaf] and is not known as the Legendary Sucker or anything similar. She has been out of the public eye for a long time or I would have said 'incredibly respected'. Your larger point stands, though.
I hope this isn't an "I quit" message.
I note that yes, it is a horrible outcome and the deaths of Jiraiya and Orochimaru make me personally sad, but it's also an incredible opportunity for the playerbase. You are now the head of a clan in Leaf. You have a seat at the Clan Council table. There is political instability everywhere, and things are going to be changing a lot in the near future. You are in a position to shape that change if you make the right moves.
Honestly, this is the most power and agency that the players have had in the entire quest.
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I disagree. Leaf is without a leader right now. The first thing J did when Hiruzen died was call a meeting, tell everyone what happened, and try to assume the hat. Hiashi can make a strong case that they need to elect a new kage immediately, or at least an interim kage who can sort out the recovery.
It's not. As you might have noted, I have voted and critiqued plans.
But you may want to note that constant crisis exhaust players.
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Radvic remains absolutely correct. This outcome is only just short of "The Akatsuki come for us specifically", so of course there's relatively little salt.
It also helps knowing that the Akatsuki remain nearly as bullshit as they were before the moon aliens got involved, which cuts down on a lot of that.
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Right, and modulo Shikaku calming everyone down, the room was about two ill-advised outbursts from being a complete bloodbath. That only ended well for Jiraiya because Jiraiya and because Shikaku started making moves for him.
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On which note, that makes now the ideal time for educational reform in Leaf.
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Only insofar as wanting Naruto to become Hokage goes. If we just want to adopt him into the clan or gain his support, then we can take our time.
On the other hand, Tsunade we already know and can skip a lot of this song and dance. She's also an experienced and battle-hardened adult, and should understand why we need to move quickly here. Not that a measure of sympathy wouldn't be appropriate given the circumstances. Still, she should be much easier to approach with the Hokage offer.
In conclusion, the fact that we don't have much time should make Tsunade our primary candidate. There's less uncertainty involved, and she's objectively the best person Leaf has for the job.
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Don't forget Gai and Kakashi!! YOUTH!
(Kakashi managed to die without saying a single word on screen directly too, I think? A pity.)
Political goals:
1. Make sure that whoever acquired the hat is not Hiashi.
2. Strengthen tie with our allies.
3. Strengthen tie with nations that participated in the Battle of the Gods.
4. Make sure World War 4 does not break out. (Which means stopping Hiashi)
5. Form the Ninja UN so that something like Akatsuki won't happen again or that we won't have to stop their plan at the last possible moment, and enable a process toward world peace.
1. Make sure that whoever acquired the hat is not Hiashi.
2. Strengthen tie with our allies.
3. Strengthen tie with nations that participated in the Battle of the Gods.
4. Make sure World War 4 does not break out. (Which means stopping Hiashi)
5. Form the Ninja UN so that something like Akatsuki won't happen again or that we won't have to stop their plan at the last possible moment, and enable a process toward world peace.
J told us to choose Naruto over Tsunade for hokage, and I trust his judgement on this. I also expect Naruto (who was being trained for the position) to understand the urgency of the matter and Complete The Mission rather than throwing a tantrum because we waited until after the crisis was over to do the emotional stuff.
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This is also something we could use to convince Tsunade to run for Kage. Clanless feel like they can't be med-nin. Making a path for that in the academy for those that desire that would be ideal for her goals and ours.
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Counterpoint political goals:
1. Make sure Leaf succession crisis is over quickly, lets we become international prey
2. Strengthen clan position via building ties to village S-class ninjas: Naruto and Tsunade
3. Build ties with other clans, both previous allies that may need us now, but also possibly others - everyone was hurt
4. Make sure Leaf doesn't start WW4
5. Try to keep international relations stable while all vilages rebuild.