I definitely feel like we are being to passive here.
At Oneiros' behest on the discord, and because I'm a dumbass with like 43 words to spare before the next cutoff, I've included feeling out the ANBU and Village Bureaucracy, delegating where appropriate for the feelout section.
Hm. I think I want to give planmaking a shot.

Word count: 357

[X] Action Plan: To Stride Forward
  1. Allies
    1. In general: invite to Goketsu mourning, strategy meeting.
    2. Noburi
      1. Parents might've been in the strike force.
      2. There were only three Mist survivors.
      3. Emotional support, not speech.
    3. Tsunade
      1. Go past anyone that tries to stop you.
      2. Hand her Jiraiya's will.
      3. Are you aiming for Hokage?
    4. Naruto
      1. Go past anyone in way. Do not yield.
      2. See what state he's in.
      3. If lucid, talk to him.
      4. We lost Poppa. Jiraiya, now. It sucks, so, so, much.
      5. Emotional support, no speech, until he's ready.
      6. Wants re:
        1. Hokage?
        2. Goketsu?
        3. Anything?
    5. Akane
      1. Ask about adoption.
      2. Help with Mari?
    6. Mari
      1. Emotional support until safe.
      2. Discuss starting over.
        1. Don't go back.
        2. We don't need the evil Inoue Mari the Heartbreaker. Let her die, if necessary.
        3. We need the brilliant Mari Goketsu, jonin of the greater Team Uplift.
    7. Kagome
      1. Tell him about the runup to the attack.
        1. Including giving Jiraiya his seals.
          1. Against Akatsuki, well, it seemed like the only thing.
          2. It wasn't enough.
          3. His final suicide attack was yours.
      2. We'll patent his seals.
      3. You're a top sealmaster. Best in Goketsu, at least.
        1. Anti-Hyuuga, if we don't have it already.
        2. Give all of Jiraiya's sealing notes.
        3. Sealing instruction needs to become priority.
    8. ISC
      1. Attend services, if invited.
      2. Emotional support, not speech.
  2. Sort through Jiraiya's will and notes.
    1. Figure out what he's leaving us.
    2. Invite anybody you can find out he wanted to invite to the funeral, or whoever he thought might work with us.
    3. Store his body. There's a chance, now.
    4. Draw skywalkers while reading, if capable.
  3. Feel out (delegating where appropriate):
    1. Sarutobi
    2. Support that Jiraiya noted.
    3. ANBU
    4. Village Bureaucracy
    5. Uchiha
    6. Aburame
  4. Strategy meeting
    1. Hokage
      1. Who are we pushing for Hokage?
      2. How can we turn clans?
      3. Coordinate strategies; we cannot win if we don't support one candidate.
    2. Overall geopolitics
      1. We can't win if we focus on Leaf, on any level.
        1. Rock and Cloud are likely stronger, let alone Akatsuki.
      2. Aim for international alliances and cooperation.
      3. Strengthen Sand, Mist, and minor ties.
      4. Send out feelers towards Rock and Cloud. Coordinate, if not ally, against Akatsuki.
  5. Mourning
    1. MEW granite surface at compound. Carve Jiraiya's name in.
    2. Read his will. Bequeath as per his request.
    3. Take turns reminiscing.
 
[x] Action Plan: Excuse Me, What Just Happened?

Dunno why my vote didn't go through last time. Hm.

@MadScientist I'm going to ping you with a copy of my plan, and ask that you look over it and copy over whatever you think is reasonable into yours.
[X] Action Plan: Alliance Against Akatsuki

Word Count: 420
  • Touch base with our allies. Offer our condolences.
    • Go to Tsunade first. Give her Jiraiya's letter.
    • Shikamaru, we know you're grieving, but we need to work quickly given the political situation. Is there anything the Nara had in place for this scenario?
      • Keiko, Tsunade, thoughts?
    • Find out what physical/mental state Naruto's in.
      • Debrief him with Tsunade and offer to adopt him as our brother.
      • If he's sane and willing, Naruto should make a bid for hokageship. Otherwise support either Tsunade (second choice) or Akimichi (third choice).
  • Read Jiraiya's will. Take stock of what he left us.
  • Debrief the clan on what happened.
    • Get Mari to give us political advice.
      • Double check with Tsunade and the clan first.
      • We need her manipulation skills for the good of the clan, and that if she believes she can't stop manipulating people she can at least manipulate [the bad guys] to keep us alive.
      • Offer to compromise: If she still isn't willing to directly manipulate people, she can at least teach us to do the same. If not, teach us politics/how to avoid manipulation.
      • Keep an eye on her. Order her to fall back if she's starting to get too mentally unwell, to not conceal her mental state from Hazou, and to present her true emotions and thoughts to him at all times when it is sufficiently private for this to be safe, regardless of what consequences this may have for either of them.
    • Speak with Kagome at length.
      • We understand if he's angry with us for sharing his seals with Jiraiya. Offer explanations, not excuses.
      • Get him Jiraiya's seals/the anti-Hyuuga seal if we haven't already.
      • Offer to have his seals declared clan secrets (so Leaf can't steal them).
        • Figure out how to do this.
      • Jiraiya named his ultimate explosion suicide technique after you.
  • Discuss with the clan on continuing the international alliance to hunt down Akatsuki.
    • Reasoning:
      • They're 7 S-rankers involved in an end-of-the-world conspiracy and took out most of the world's ninja forces.
      • They somehow managed to survive thanks to their boss, who told them to pursue peace "the hard way"...which probably involves gratituous violence.
      • This could very well demolish the hidden villages given that they now lack...almost all their elite ninja.
    • If we do this right, we might be able to extend the international peace for years, and possibly warm relations between the hidden villages.
      • Domestically, whoever holds the hat would have significant political points for stalling the next war, and for avenging our fallen ninja.
 
If Akatsuki won, wouldn't the quest effectively end?
Perhaps. We still would have done it.

Point of order, just so people don't go down a wrong path and get frustrated as a result: This is MfD, which owes its basic source material to Naruto but is extremely different.

do you think we could get an Interlude
If it's voted in them I would have no problem with it. I may do one regardless, as my writing time is a bit more constrained than usual this weekend.


Wow [the nature of Jiraiya's death] sucks, what about Oro?
He went out a couple rounds earlier, IIRC.

Leaf does still have raw numbers of ninja who aren't S rank. How many typical jonin or chunin does it take to seriously threaten a high tier combatant? There must be some number that would be a counter if they fought intelligently.
The number would vary enormously, since "S-rank" is a very wide range.
 
Voting is open for another 4 hours.
Adhoc vote count started by eaglejarl on May 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM, finished with 391 posts and 17 votes.
  • 27

    [x] Action Plan: Excuse Me, What Just Happened?
    [X] Action Plan: To Stride Forward
    [X] Action Plan: Alliance Against Akatsuki
    [X] Reform the Akatsuki. Their dream must not die.
    [X] Marry Ami, etc.
    [X] Lore Update: All the information we need to not be an idiot clan head.
    [X] Action plan: Goketsu means guts
    [X] Action Plan : 'Gōketsu Clan Technique: Kagome's Bliss!'
    [X] Action Plan: Kill Keiko.
    [X] Velorien can write what he wants, but Hazou and Ami marry for whatever reason. Love to GM's.
    [x] Action Plan: Excuse Me, What Just Happened?
    [X] Lore Update
    [X] Interlude: Akane's Fate
    [X] Interlude: Revenant, Part 2
    [x] Action Plan: Make a K.A.O.S. Suit
 
Ignore word count IMO, optimizing for single digit XP in this situation is silly. Use whatever amount of words you need for maximum effect. Just don't produce a monster of a plan no QM will be able to get through.
 
[X] Lore Update: Jiraiya's final moments
[X] Lore Update
 
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[X] Lore Update: Gaara's Capture
Adhoc vote count started by faflec on May 4, 2019 at 11:08 AM, finished with 404 posts and 19 votes.
 
Ignore word count IMO, optimizing for single digit XP in this situation is silly. Use whatever amount of words you need for maximum effect. Just don't produce a monster of a plan no QM will be able to get through.

Hm. I think I want to give planmaking a shot.

Word count: 378

[X] Action Plan: To Stride Forward
  1. Allies
    1. In general: invite to Goketsu mourning, strategy meeting.
    2. Noburi
      1. Parents might've been in the strike force.
      2. There were only three Mist survivors.
      3. Emotional support, not speech.
    3. Tsunade
      1. Go past anyone that tries to stop you.
      2. Hand her Jiraiya's will.
      3. Are you aiming for Hokage?
    4. Naruto
      1. Go past anyone in way. Do not yield.
      2. See what state he's in.
      3. If lucid, talk to him.
      4. We lost Poppa. Jiraiya, now. It sucks, so, so, much.
      5. Emotional support, no speech, until he's ready.
      6. Wants re:
        1. Hokage?
        2. Goketsu?
        3. Anything?
    5. Akane
      1. Ask about adoption.
      2. Help with Mari?
    6. Mari
      1. Emotional support until safe.
      2. Discuss starting over.
        1. Don't go back.
        2. We don't need the evil Inoue Mari the Heartbreaker. Let her die, if necessary.
        3. We need the brilliant Mari Goketsu, jonin of the greater Team Uplift.
    7. Kagome
      1. Tell him about the runup to the attack.
        1. Including giving Jiraiya his seals.
          1. Against Akatsuki, well, it seemed like the only thing.
          2. It wasn't enough.
          3. His final suicide attack was yours.
      2. We'll patent his seals.
      3. You're a top sealmaster. Best in Goketsu, at least.
        1. Anti-Hyuuga, if we don't have it already.
        2. Give all of Jiraiya's sealing notes.
        3. Sealing instruction needs to become priority.
    8. ISC
      1. Attend services, if invited.
      2. Emotional support, not speech.
      3. When ready, ask about their plan.
  2. Sort through Jiraiya's will and notes.
    1. Figure out what he's leaving us.
    2. Invite anybody you can find out he wanted to invite to the funeral, or whoever he thought might work with us.
    3. Store his body. There's a chance, now.
    4. Draw skywalkers while reading, if capable.
  3. Feel out (delegating where appropriate):
    1. Sarutobi
    2. Support that Jiraiya noted.
    3. ANBU
    4. Village Bureaucracy
    5. Uchiha
    6. Aburame
  4. Strategy meeting
    1. Hokage
      1. Who are we pushing for Hokage?
        1. We can't push Hiashi. Leaf, and the Elemental Nations cannot afford an isolationist turn inwards.
      2. How can we turn clans?
      3. Coordinate strategies; we cannot win if we don't support one candidate.
    2. Overall geopolitics
      1. We can't win if we focus on Leaf, on any level.
        1. Rock and Cloud are likely stronger, let alone Akatsuki.
      2. Aim for international alliances and cooperation.
      3. Strengthen Sand, Mist, and minor ties.
      4. Send out feelers towards Rock and Cloud. Coordinate, if not ally, against Akatsuki.
  5. Mourning
    1. MEW granite surface at compound. Carve Jiraiya's name in.
    2. Read his will. Bequeath as per his request.
    3. Take turns reminiscing.
I think so too, but I'm not sure what I could add to this plan right now; what do you think?
 
So in light of the current situation, would it still be appropriate to level CR over Social?
I'm not sure if leveling socials in the short term is going to have an appreciable effect. Either we can get by with Mari/Tsunade/Naruto and current political connections, stuff Jiraiya left us, clanless, etc. or we're like totally fucked.
 
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