Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Emstar
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After checking it with Jiraiya, yes.
It's rich nobles from outside Mist though? I thought we weren't trying to cheat any old leathertanner or Bonku Amai that showed up.
They are murderous drug-dealing criminals who have happily conspired with foreign child soldiers guilty of poisoning a prominent Mist public official to corrupt an international event to the ultimate detriment of their own nation's teams while trafficking in large amounts of highly illegal ninja explosives. They back-channeled a secret purchase of national intelligence directly from an adversarial head of state while implicitly offering their cooperation in his spy network. They're the ones who brought up gambling in the first place.
If they suddenly have a problem with this, specifically, they just tell us no. If it's obvious that they will have a problem, Jiraiya or Mari will tell us not to even mention it. Where's the downside here?
The absurdly wealthy hereditary feudal lord civilians who underpin the entire screwed up system? I suspect that the drug-dealing, racketeering murderers aren't too insistent on a Paragon playthrough.
We're in this to make bank and powerful contacts. That's naturally going to involve focusing on the games where the minimum buy-in is more than a typical civilian makes in their entire lives.
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I really want to hear about your life. Share, please?
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Emstar
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Note: I am cool with cheating the shit out of rich nobles, and I think the Yakuza will be cool with this.
What I don't like is inviting all these schmucks in on the operation. I don't trust them enough/ have a good enough picture of their interests, loyalties (and where those people's interests are, etc.) to be cool with bringing them into the fold here.
Whats to stop Hinata or someone from subtly sabotaging this, pinning it on us and having it all blow up in Jiraiya's face, making us look incompetent, while boosting the Hyuga in the public eye?
@eaglejarl a review of the winning action plan would be appreciated.
Emstar
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Done.
I likely won't be able to make any super big edits for mine until quite late tonight anyway, so thats no problem as far as I'm concerned. Incidentally @Cariyaga appropriate anything you wish.
Hello thread, how do we feel about inviting Honoka's family as well?
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Cariyaga
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Not her family. Specifically her and Aoi. Aoi will understand Kagome's reticence around people he doesn't know, but he knows both of them pretty well.
Emstar
The Shining One
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Okay.
This is the most comfortable I am with the wording of things. Likely can't make edits without dropping or changing sections wholesale.
1) Inviting Aoi + Honoka
2) Specified we are celebrating Kagome's birthday next week (IIRC we have 8 days or so left til we leave? At least that much time, I think.)
E: Ping with edits, I'll get to them later tonight (and I do mean quite late tonight). I may pop in on my phone to respond or chip in to the conversation though. As always feel free to steal stuff you like if you want your own plan.
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Jiraiya, Mari, and Nara, in that order. If they all signed off on it, I'd feel pretty confident, but yes, the Hyuuga are listed as the last possibilities for a reason and I can see an argument for not even mentioning them and even for dropping Aburame.
On the other hand, the Nara have bet really heavily on this clan alliance and their heir is due to be wed to a clan member. As long as it's not part of the competition of the exams I'm very willing to believe Jiraiya and Mari if they agree that they can be trusted. A Nara mastermind on the team is immensely valuable, and with him would likely come Ino the mind-reader sensor specialist since the Yamanaka absolutely are not going to cross the Nara. That's on top of just having two extra faces and sets of eyes to swap out to make it harder for people to pick up on the team's activities.
As for Panache, I just like the image of a small pangolin James Bond playing cards over a martini, okay? Anyway, we don't know the full range of her abilities, but her specialty is well-suited to finding ways to contribute here. With the emphasis on memory, etiquette, speed, and stealth the courier might be as well.
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Noumero
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Perhaps put Keiko and Noburi back into the plan, though, instead of only Hazou? There's very little reason not to involve them, if we're executing this plan at all, even if you don't want to involve ISC.
I don't mind.
I'll decrease your plan's wordcount in a little while, so that you could add any new ideas in.
Emstar
The Shining One
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Fair. I'll see what I can do later.
If you manage to significantly decrease the wordcount without changing the intent/keeping it clear I will be impressed.
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Hrmmm... The Akimichi focus on body modification. It wasn't relevant before the grue, but now that henge is gone what are the chances that they have a clan shapeshifting ability to emulate it as a disguise option? That information should have been filled in during the shift, and if they do have that ability they would make a really valuable addition.
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Keep in mind that, in order for bringing more people to be profitable, every additional person needs to add value greater than the established average. And also that this kind of venture needs to scale vertically rather than horizontally, which increases risk.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more certain I am that we're going to get shut down before we even start. Otherwise, what stops other Mist ninja from getting in on this game? I bet there's some kind of semi-official agreement between the Kage to let the rich bozos gamble and party in peace.
Emstar
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I imagine that Mist ninja dont do this to keep the Yakuza happy, and that everyone else doesnt do it to keep Host Nation happy.
We might actually be in a unique position here, friends of the Yakuza, almost allied to Mist, Auntie is the Mizukage, being good at cheating casinos is chiseled into Hazou's backstory, etc.
I think a lot of this does hinge on the fact that Hazou does all of this in disguise. I dont think it would help if someone sees a barrel carting Wakahisa around as well as Not-the-Pangolin-Summoner accompanied by Panashe-with-a-moustache
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Exclude Keiko & Kagome? Asking for a friend
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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This is why we need 1000 word plans again.Exclude Keiko & Kagome? Asking for a friend
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
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No, that's Panstashe, her cousin.
Emstar
The Shining One
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*thinks there was a section on this*Exclude Keiko & Kagome? Asking for a friend
*Sees it was like 20 edits ago*
oh goddamnit
Kei can count cards and calculate probabilities better than a computer, Noburi doesn't need to bring his barrel, and Panache doesn't need to be seen, though there will probably be situations where just being open about their identities would be a benefit. Deck management and skilled dice rolling aren't actually against any rules. Nara covers Keiko's gaps and Ino is a sensor specialist who literally reads minds.
In any case, there is a reason that professional gamblers work in teams when they operate clandestinely. If nothing else, you want your characters to stay consistent, so you've got one person betting pennies every round in the game tracking the deck and potential marks while the high roller goes heavy each time he shows up, but bounces around from game to game based on where the best odds and marks currently are. There simply isn't any way for a single person to run a system without either deliberately and dramatically curbing their winnings or making it clear that they are running a system by the behavior patterns necessary to be successful. Split them up.
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