Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
TaliesinSkye
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I thought chakra capacity was pretty far down on our list of things to train, and not something we'll get any real progress on in a month before the tournament?
Why do you want to pull Kagome in with Hana time?
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
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Clearly we learned these techniques from our exilted mother before going missing-nin.
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
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When you marry someone, you become related to them, so technically.....
Fixed
Light sparring. Light. I have full confidence in Kagome's control when he's not taken by surprise and knows exactly what he's doing. He's dangerous if startled; when acting purposefully he has fine control over his explosives.
No, chakra capacity is a high priority. Where would you get the idea it's not? Hazou has an anemic chakra capacity that is in danger of not being enough to carry him through a single fight. Recharging from Noburi is all well and good, but it doesn't help if Hazou can't last the whole fight on his own.
As for your second question, because it would be good if the adults in Hazou's life get along together. Mari and Hana may be a hopeless cause, but she has nothing against Kagome. If she could learn to appreciate him like Hazou does, it would do a lot to bring her into the family. On the other side too, I want Kagome to strongly think of Hana as one of his people.
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Getting enough Chakra Reserves for Shadow Clone is a long-term project because we'll need high-Jounin chakra reserves before Jiraiya will let us learn it.
Getting enough Chakra Reserves to last more than two rounds of combat is a short-term project, since for as much as Chakra is doublecost we're only at level 10. Getting even just a few levels will have significant returns in the tournament proper as we can afford to spend more chakra and don't have to fear the enemy stalling as much.
Here's the current plan I wrote up for how we should manage Hazou's XP in the near-to-mid future. Alertness is godstat and we can't skimp on it, but once the tourney is over we can afford to divert some XP into an Empathy drip, and once we're competent on Alertness getting Shadow Clones is our next big priority, which means Chakra Reserves is a significant priority for the mid-term.
Tua
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I don't remember Kagome sparring with Mari even but I don't think the risk of someone getting injured or Kagome getting spooked are worth it.
Kabuto is going to either be genuinely annoyed for us wasting his time or do the usual spiel of "oh my, I am just so busy right now but if you let me experiment on your Iron Nerve some more I might tell you". We haven't come up with a workable proposal on how to quantify chakra IC yet either so can't bait him with that just yet.
There are safer ways to get this information like asking seasoned jonin since they should know about this or at the very least Jiraiya would, what with being Tsunade's old team mate who must have taught J&O about these things at some point.
Emstar
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Is it incest after we genetically engineer everyone to have the same bloodline limits?
Yes. Full support.
Noumero
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Well, that went exactly as expected.
Two points:
Two points:
- To add to the jokes about Hazou inheriting traits from Hana: Don't forget how pretty damn far she have gone for Shinji.
- Hana got through Kagome's traps... but to be fair, we don't really know how good they are. If I recall correctly, we've been attacked by ninja while under his traps' defence only once (Bonfire of Tapirs) in our time in the wilderness. His traps are sufficient to deal with chakra beasts, but for all we know anyone with high-chuunin stats could waltz through them as if they're not there. Wouldn't that be an embarrassing realization?
All right you folks, if you're that terrified I can remove the suggestion about Kagome sparring.
I think it's more of the thread's excessive overcaution myself.
I think it's more of the thread's excessive overcaution myself.
Cariyaga
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Yes, because we haven't seen numerous references to Kagome being spooked by some little thing and, say, narrowly avoiding boom-splatting a classroom of leaf pre-genin.
Does this mean I get your vote?
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If you don't end up having time, I can get behind some applied evil.
Execute them, hmm.
So, you're going to be executing the Goketsu clan and its allies, with our plan. We spent time building them up, but I'm sure killing hundreds of genin, Dozens of Chunin, several jonin, Shikaku, and Jiraiya before absconding into the night (potentially with our new, hazo ally but not goketsu ally jonin) will earn us lots of XP.
Also delicious drama.
And an in with akatsuki, so we can have new and better allies that have no ulterior motives towards us.
And new and exciting traumas.
Is. Is this christmas?
Dissonance
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Does chakra adhesion (wall/ceiling walking, etc.) expend chakra in any meaningful way?
TaliesinSkye
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Ninja seem to be able to do it practically all day if they want, (sometimes literally, in the case of water running across oceans) so it can't be all that much.
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Note that this was only after weeks of running and using chakra. So, yeah.
Cariyaga
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@Adept_Woodwright Could you look over the project summary section in your MfD-Chakra Quantification Grant Proposal paper and see if what I've got is cool?
TaliesinSkye
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Could be marginally more than the natural chakra regen rate, maybe.
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I know everyone's talking about disrespecting agency from Hana's side.
But have we considered that our dad was even worse at it?
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Oh goddamn, we are so prepared to be paternalistic as fuck it's not even funny; literally every single adult role model we have ever had disrespects the agencies of others and believes only their own actions are capable of solving other's problems, except maybe, maybe Jiraiya.
What do I mean?
- Dad Shinji
- Momma Hana
- Jonin-mom Mari
- Uncle-sensei Kagome
Incidentally, my vote:
[X] Action Plan: Mother's Day
[X] Action Plan: Game Night
[X] Action Plan: Get Help Training, Bring Family Together
Vecht
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I certainly agree with and am eminently sympathetic to the sentiment of pushback against unreasonable paranoia and overcaution. But for meta reasons I want to very explicitly state that no, this caution is entirely reasonable.
I don't think the failure scenario is terribly likely by any stretch, but the expected value is negative enough that it would be bordering criminal negligence to allow anyone excepting Mari, Noburi, Keiko, Akane, or Hazou to spar with Kagome.
This would be like lettong someone who isn't a trained expert play unattended with a human-acclimated lion; if they're a reasonable person and knowledgeable of how to handle the situation, probably nothing bad is going to happen. But you just don't do that, and for very good reason.
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I'm a fan of Hana-Kagome interaction, but yeah, I'd prefer something with less tail-risk. Talking about Hazou seems good, maybe cooking if Hana's comfortable with it.
I'm a fan of Hana-Kagome interaction, but yeah, I'd prefer something with less tail-risk. Talking about Hazou seems good, maybe cooking if Hana's comfortable with it.
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I'm sure this list could be expanded. Honoka, Fifi, Naruto, perchance even Pangolin summons.
Come on now, I edited out the sparring suggestion but there's nothing wrong with them acting as co-teachers. Hazou needs to spend a lot of time training, and that sort of thing is ninja socialization.