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[x] Noburi Training Plan: Medknow
[x] Kei Training Plan: Frozen Skein
[x] Kei Training Plan: Frozen Skein
Feel better, friend.Due to illness, I lack the spoons needed to properly update my plan. I'll take suggestions if anyone has it, but failing that I'm going to vote for the "tell Asuma everything plan," assuming there is one.
Apologies to the QMs who I rushed for answers that were, apparently, unnecessary.
There seems to be a growing consensus and it may drag the story in particular directions that I'm nervous about so I want to point out that it may be early to come to a definite conclusion. The evidence available is consistent with any of the following scenarios, among others:That doesn't really factor in here imo. We have sufficient evidence to determine that the attackers knew she was coming in advance. This wasn't just a random encounter that wiped her team because the world is dangerous.
* Rock had a kill order out on Akane and Yuno after they killed their Kage's husband. Immediately after the mission was assigned, someone in the bureaucracy (not Ruka) sent a message via faster-than-foot means saying where Akane would traveling. This could have been by reverse-summoner telephone, or carrier pigeon, or some chakra technique, or who knows. A team had been waiting on the border for months waiting for the message. They entered Fire, tracked and killed Akane, then immediately got out.
The screenshot is from Hush Hush, a recently-released dating sim, although the character debuted in a previous game called Crush Crush.1. I can't believe that we now know that carrier pigeon exist in the setting and that they are normal
2. What game is that from that female character is adorable
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We tracked them entering Fire right?* A group of missing-nin came into Fire from Iron to raid civilian villages because there's money there, more than in Iron. They ran across Akane's tracks and thought this was likely on priors to be a genin team so it was an opportunity to get hold of skywalkers. Skywalkers are incredibly valuable for missing-nin, so it was worth the risk
It was in the plan.The ambushers followed partway into their mission; can we backtrace to find their entry site or a camp?
Important tip: later stages/girls are functionally impossible to complete F2P without cheating (as in, it would take running the game for literal decades). The game stops you from cheating by setting your system clock to the future (it limits it to going up to a week forward, which is meaningless later on), but what it doesn't do is stop you from setting your system clock years back and then fast-forwarding it back to the present moment.
I can't believe that carrier pigeons aren't illegal as fuck. What possible reason could there be for allowing people to keep carrier pigeons in Leaf?1. I can't believe that we now know that carrier pigeon exist in the setting and that they are normal
I can't believe that carrier pigeons aren't illegal as fuck. What possible reason could there be for allowing people to keep carrier pigeons in Leaf?
@Paperclipped @eaglejarl @Velorien, can we have a ruling on this? Are carrier pigeons a thing in the setting? Are they fire-breathing chakra carrier pigeons? What is their legal status in Mist and Leaf?
[X] Armageddon InitiativeMinor PSA
All references to the term "purify" in the description of the Earthshaping Technique have been changed to "filter". This does not have any meaningful implications for Hazō or your plans and you should absolutely not worry about it.
Additionally, this week's Thursday update will be coming out early as it is, in accordance with the prophecy, an interlude. Voting will remain closed.
Does this strategy work in MfD as well? Seems like a great use for the β timeline…Important tip: later stages/girls are functionally impossible to complete F2P without cheating (as in, it would take running the game for literal decades). The game stops you from cheating by setting your system clock to the future (it limits it to going up to a week forward, which is meaningless later on), but what it doesn't do is stop you from setting your system clock years back and then fast-forwarding it back to the present moment.
You know, "Miner PSA" would have worked too =PMinor PSA
All references to the term "purify" in the description of the Earthshaping Technique have been changed to "filter". This does not have any meaningful implications for Hazō or your plans and you should absolutely not worry about it.
Additionally, this week's Thursday update will be coming out early as it is, in accordance with the prophecy, an interlude. Voting will remain closed.
Too odvious, you want to put mercury in their incense burners to make it deniable."Sir, ES fixes our metal supplies forever."
"That's wonderful, Hazou! I'm so glad you finally made something that isn't a doomsday device!"
"Thank you sir, and on an unrelated note, the Hagoromo estate fell into a mysterious sinkhole."
"Aaaaaaand we're back."
Easy ones I can do off the top of my head. ponwog95 (Personal opinion, not word of god, but I'm 95% confident the other QMs will agree.)@eaglejarl @Paperclipped
Outstanding questions, if you are willing
1. Can civilians level trap making to anywhere near the level of ninja? (05/07/23)
2. Mari was on the verge of dissolving the merchant council a while ago. Did that come to fruition? (05/05/23)
3. How much of a pain/spoon cost is it for you when we check the difficulty of a seal? Is their any way to make it easier for you? There's a bunch of seals I would like to check the difficulty of but there is concern that it would be not be a nice thing to do. (05/05/23)
4. Could we get any info on dropouts from the first two years of academy? Is there any junction that we could tap those chakra capable people who cannot chop being a ninja?
5. Have we tapped out the entire supply of crippled ninja or are there still people off the mission lists that have functional chakra systems (could learn noncombat stuff such as sealing or ES)?
I think I might make an updated version of this now that Hazō, Asuma, Kagome, Enma, and Orochimaru are now all harem brothers through marriage to Kumokōgō….Inspired by the stalwart efforts of the Hivemind's shippers, I hereby present you with the latest Marked for Death shipping chart. Corrections and suggestions for improvement welcome.
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This makes as much sense as us slapping ourselves and then going to Asuma every time we come back from a walk outside the village to tell him "Lord Hokage sir, I defeated a dangerous sealmaster traitor and missing-nin in combat and brought him to Leaf"The game stops you from cheating by setting your system clock to the future (it limits it to going up to a week forward, which is meaningless later on), but what it doesn't do is stop you from setting your system clock years back and then fast-forwarding it back to the present moment.
"Here's how it is. The Hyūga have patron-client relationships with certain big-name craftsmen in the luxury goods sector. It's an important source of income for them, and a major source of economic influence.
"So naturally, we were going to steal it.
"Which is to say the Minami and I worked out a complicated scheme to hit the Hyūga clients with every tool in the box at once, and grab a massive share of the market from them before the Hyūga had time to get their headbands on. The Minami needed starting capital for that, and we couldn't afford to leave a paper trail for the Hyūga, so I gave them a huge sum of money as an unrecorded gift, which they'd repay out of the profits from their new investments.
"Then this happened. The Minami think I've betrayed them, pretty much for the reasons I just gave, and they've pulled out of the deal. As far as they're concerned, that gift is now blood money for their daughter getting killed through my and my clan's incompetence. And we're not getting it back.
"Which means, boys and girls, that we're royally screwed. We've just gone all in on that new compound, our coffers are about to get emptier than Uchiha Itachi's heart, and the Hokage doesn't get to knock on people's doors and ask for handouts. Even if I swallowed my pride and asked one of the other clans for a loan, there'd be enough strings attached to cocoon an Akimichi.
"The catch is that my team has Kagome certificates in trap arrays, battleground preparation, and the general art of securing a perimeter until the Sage of Six Paths himself would rather take the long way round. We once held off an elite assault force several times our number with nothing but traps and explosives. Unless the genin trying to kill us are experienced at dealing with defensive emplacements—which I doubt because, as you say, nobody uses them in the field anymore—they're not going to know what hit them."
"It sounds like a very hard place to live in," Hazō said. "We spent a couple of years in the wilderness right after we became genin, and every day was a fight for survival."
He wasn't sure where to go from there, though. Ask about where they got their training? Their gear? Whether they had a jōnin instructor?
Then he remembered how Hōjō was talking about someone or something "cursing" his dice, as if he believed in kami or ancestor worship or some such, and inspiration struck.
"You know the worst part about having to live out in the wilderness, though? The way it becomes all about survival. You find yourself forgetting what you live for, what matters to you apart from just staying alive. Do you know what I'm talking about?"
"Ha," Shuraō gave an arrogant laugh. "We never have that kind of problem, because we know Lord Jashin is always watching—"
"Ahem," Chigiri interrupted. "My friend misspoke. We've never heard of this Jashin. What he meant to say was… was…"
Hazō could see Chigiri's face gradually tense as he struggled to come up with a context-appropriate word that could plausibly be mistaken for "Jashin".
"Rations!" he said triumphantly after half a minute of thought. "Our rations are what keeps us going in the wilderness. The mispronunciation is a private joke."
"That's right," Hōjō hastened to agree. "If you ever heard us talking about Jashin, that's what we meant. And if we ever said anything about the Great Prophet, then we were actually talking about… great profit. You know, because we're mercenaries."
"Yeah!" Shuraō joined in. "And if we said anything that sounded like 'blood sacrifice rituals'—"
"We never said anything that sounded like 'blood sacrifice rituals'," Hōjō said sharply. "How would that even happen?"
He glanced at Hazō and Noburi.
"That, uh, was also a private joke," he added hastily.
"I think this conversation has gone on long enough," Chigiri said. "It's late, and we have many things to do. Shuraō, show them out."
Hazō inwardly winced. Knowing that Team Bloodrage followed some kind of extremely disturbing religion wasn't useless, but it wasn't much to take back to Jiraiya either, and he knew Team Gōketsu wouldn't get another chance to catch them off guard.
"You know," Noburi said as Shuraō was about to close the door, "I've figured out why you guys have been eliminated while we're still going strong."
"Huh?"
"It's because we have a badass master and you don't. We have Jiraiya of the Three himself teaching us, while you've just got your Jashin dude or your prophet or whatever."
"You fucking take that back!" Shuraō roared. "Your Jiraiya's nothing next to the Great Prophet!"
"Nuh-uh," Noburi said. "Jiraiya can take down a jōnin with his bare hands in thirty seconds flat."
"The Great Prophet can butcher a jōnin with his scythe in ten seconds flat!"
"Jiraiya is in his early fifties and still the strongest ninja around."
"The Great Prophet is in his early twenties and already the strongest ninja around!"
Chigiri grabbed Shuraō from behind and tried to drag him away from the door. "What the hell are you—"
Shuraō fought his hold. "You stay out of this, Chigiri. This bastard's insulting the Great Prophet!"
"Give it up, Shuraō," Noburi sneered. "You've already lost. Only Jiraiya can summon heroic battle toads."
"So what? Only the Great Prophet can ignore mortal wounds!"
"Jiraiya has a professional army of a thousand skilled ninja."
"The Great Prophet has a hidden cult of the world's strongest warriors!"
"Jiraiya has the likes of Tsunade and Ino-Shika-Chō for allies."
"The Great Prophet has—"
Shuraō collapsed on the ground, unconscious. Behind him, Chigiri lowered his fist.
"This conversation is over," he snarled, slamming the door in Hazō and Noburi's faces.
Hazō and Noburi gave each other an epic high five as they beat a hasty retreat.
"Okay, where was I...? Oh, right, the memories. That's the important part. You'll recover a clone's memories when it pops, just as though they happened to you. The problem is that the human brain isn't designed to experience multiple timestreams at once—"
Kagome-sensei shifted uncomfortably.
"I'll, uh, I'll just be going," the messenger said. "Um...was he serious about you destroying the world?"
"Of course not," Hazō said. "We'd never do that. We couldn't do that."
Kagome-sensei frowned in confusion. "Sure we could. All it would need is a retrotemporal rift that detonated at the Kamimoot where they decided to create the world." He looked up, ticking thoughts off on his fingers. "Oh, or a seal that drew resources from the surroundings to reproduce itself. If you're willing to settle for 'killing all humans but the planet is still physically here' then another one of those blade-monster rifts would do it, as long as they're able to cut through stone this time...speaking of which, we should probably send someone to check on that first one and make sure they haven't escaped and started spreading across the landscape like an unstoppable hellplague. Hm...some sort of contagious air-borne chakra disease contaminating us so that we unknowingly carry it around and infect everyone so their brains dissolve into meat paste and then they spread it further. Oh, or—"
A very slight frown creased her brow. "That takes care of the simple ones. Minami has had long enough to cool off about the thing with Jiraiya, and with him...being gone, they'll have cooled off further. The fact that our new Clan Head has previously reached out to them personally will help too. Good work on that, Hazō.
"The bandage over their feud with Hyūga hasn't really held. I think their participation at that meeting was mainly a play Hyūga made to get them committed while they were still furious and nobody was around to push back from the outside. Unfortunately, them opposing Hyūga is balanced by Hagoromo probably leaning toward him alongside the Kurusu block. Win some, lose some.
Itachi gave a distant smile that quickly disappeared. "Hidan will inform you that the greatest sin is mercy, and the greatest virtue is conviction. Where, I wonder, does ignorance fall on that scale?"
Was that approval, or at least tolerance? Conviction was pretty high up on the scale as far as Hazō was concerned—Uplift demanded nothing less—but if conviction was the power to get over the barrier, then ignorance was the barrier itself
Minami took a slow, deep breath in. "Our ancestors were the children of a particular set of siblings within the main family. When every one of them failed to develop the Byakugan at the appropriate age, they were naturally deemed defective. They were treated almost like civilians"—she spat the word—"and shunted off into the side family, tolerated only because they still had the blood and so their children might be proper Hyūga again.
"But they weren't defective," she said, her voice strengthening. "They were superior. They had a new bloodline, bestowed by the Will of Fire to meet this new age with its greater challenges. The Hyūga, of course, could never accept that, so when the children began to manifest new powers, the Hyūga declared them tainted, contaminated by the venom of the Chaos Snake that dwelled in the north-west where the clan originated. That alone made their lie obvious—the Will of Fire protects us all from the caprice of the kami. That is why, after Leaf was founded, there was no more need to worship or placate them.
"Do you know what they did, Lord Gōketsu, after they concocted that excuse?"
"They drove the children out," Hazō said.
"The children escaped," Minami corrected. "Their parents weren't willing to see them culled, and fought back. Not all of them survived. After that, the Hyūga hunted us. Like animals. We weren't even a threat to them—nobody could extract clan secrets that we didn't have. They hunted us, and we fought, and we were nearly wiped from this world.
"Tell me, have you ever heard of Sōdai?"
"The Minami Bloodline Limit is called Sōdai's Prism, isn't it?" Hazō asked.
"Sōdai was the clan's hero. He'd been refused apprenticeship by Orochimaru over ethical differences, but it had only made him more determined to unlock the mysteries of the human body for the good of Leaf. When the purge began, Sōdai abandoned all of his projects in favour of research on our Bloodline Limit. He was the one who gave us the power to fight back. He also worked with… well, that's not relevant here.
"He didn't have the temperament to be a leader, and the second oldest, Hanae, had died taking a stand against ten Hyūga assassins after they discovered our underground hideout. But the second daughter, Yūna, took charge and persuaded the Hokage that we were worth more to him than the continued goodwill of the Hyūga. Yūna named us the Minami, after the first generation's grandmother who had decided to stay and intercede on their behalf instead of fleeing, and who died a martyr's death as the 'source' of the 'cursed blood'.
"Lord Gōketsu, the Hyūga never withdrew their declaration of war. We have never stopped being at war, except insofar as the Hokage promised consequences if either of us tested his tolerance too far. His death was a catastrophe for the Minami, and you would sleep better not knowing what was happening in the shadows of Leaf during the Chūnin Exams. When the Sixth came to power, we feared the end of the clan, and praised the Will of Fire when he died without ever having had the time to pursue the vendetta to its logical conclusion. It is only now the Hyūga are weaker than ever, and the Seventh has tacitly renewed our covenant with the gift of the scroll, that we can breathe easy again.
"I've been thinking about your poem," he said, the words a bit tumbly due to their speaker being a third asleep.
"Oh?"
"Yeah. It claimed that the Sage went 'beyond the trees' to rest, and that 'truth or death' could lead to him. A few months ago I passed through a portal to what I think was the afterlife—what we humans call the Naraka Path. I came out on the beach of a massive ocean, but there were a lot of trees there. Stretched as far as the eye could see."
"Fascinating. What do you conclude from this?"
"Maybe people go to the Naraka Path and turn into trees after they die?"
"I suppose it is a possibility," Cannai said. "Stranger things have happened. Still, I'm afraid I have little insight to offer on the topic. I know that thoughts of death and the afterlife are a major topic of speculation among humans, but we Dogs think little on them. This life is sufficient for us."
"Really?" Hazō demanded, opening his eyes and twisting around to look at his pillow in shock. "Seriously? You don't care about what happens after you die?"
"Mmmm, I suppose it's an overstatement. Still, what is a person save the memories of them? Dogs, wind, sound, lightning...all of these things have a speed. Perhaps even light itself does. If that is the case then there is no 'present' for us to experience, only the memories of it."
"...You lost me there."
"Sound takes time to travel, as knows anyone who has seen lightning and waited for thunder. Therefore, you do not hear me when I speak, you hear me a moment later when the sound reaches your ears. Lightning has a speed—if you pay attention you can see the flash travel from the clouds to the ground. If lightning has a speed then perhaps so does light itself, in which case you don't see me when I laugh, you see me a moment later when the light reaches your eye. I exist in your past, if only by the fraction of a moment. Existing in your past means that I am to you a collection of memories, as are you to me.
"When you die, you will continue to be that same bundle of memories. I will recall sitting here with you, in exactly the way I experience it now. How then are you truly dead? What is the difference between you no longer existing and you simply not returning from the Human Path? True, I am no longer making memories of you, but the ones I have are no less you."
"Huh. That's actually...sorta close to some ideas I had a while back." A while back when he had been out of h!s h#ad .n Ou7-ju!ce. No. Fo<us..;.. Bre47he. Remember Ak4ne's scent anD the beaaat of her heart. Remember that your t0es are in the dirt and the sun is On your face. You are here, now, in this m.ment, with Cannai. You have a position in space and in time.
The world shuddered around him but failed to crack. His mantra stilled it like a calming touch stilled a frightened animal and after a moment he was able to speak again without fear of sounding like a crazy person.
"Good, good. I like you, Huzu. You've got balls. Besides, it wouldn't work. I haven't been back there in years." He shuddered. "Filthy, disgusting, cold, rainy place. People always nagging at you—oh, Mareo, please go kill all the people in that tribe over there! Oh, Mareo, please go hunt down this wild animal! Oh, Mareo, please go scout out this filthy cave that we found that leads deep into the earth and has some kind of horrific doom fortress thing in it!"
"Apparently, when they raided Orochimaru's compound, they found out where Lord Kōzō had been getting his human bodies in every state of injury and disease. He was the first ever council clan head to be executed."
"Wait," Hazō said. "They executed a clan head? The Hyūga clan head? You're kidding, right?"
"That's what Dr Yakushi says," Noburi said. "But I'm pretty sure there are some deep waters there that the likes of you and me will never plumb. Like, it was Lord Kōzō's successor that started the Minami purge, not long after, and you know how the Hokage was weirdly slow to shut the whole thing down given it was practically a mini-clan war. But then again, if you start thinking that he did it to appease the Hyūga after executing their clan head, why did he not only recognise the Minami as a clan but start giving out privacy seals like candy practically the next day?"
The Minami compound is... "fortified" may be the best word for it. Roofs are difficult to climb and studded with abalone shells, which reflect sunlight into the eyes of anyone attempting to spy on the compound from range. Walls are tall and thick, lines of sight are open, and the Minami are not subtle about having broad areas where visitors should not step unguided if they don't want to die (Hazō envies them—the Gōketsu have too many civilian children running around to deploy kill zones to his or Kagome-sensei's satisfaction). Garden benches are comfortably padded, but also heavy enough to serve as reliable cover against ranged attacks. The Minami colour is white—in this they did not break from the Hyūga—but no white space is without some abstract colour motif that could be decorative or defiant. Only once all these layers of defence are bypassed does one reach a peaceful inner citadel where orderly structure takes a back seat to a seemingly haphazard, wilfully chaotic sprawl of buildings, sculptures (largely abstract, since the Minami have few heroic ancestors they are willing to acknowledge) and other works of art by talented clan civilians (some adopted into the clan for that specific purpose).
"Which is still more than I know about the dark one. I had to stop looking at that one fast because not only could I not see it, if I tried, I stopped being able to see anything else. It didn't even feel like normal blindness—more like total night, with no light from the Firmament whatsoever. There could be anything in there. Worst-case scenario, the way it works is that it's psychic and it knows when someone's looking at it, even miles away."
"I lost control," he said in a low voice. "You have to understand what that means, Asuma. I'm the Sage-damned Monkey King. I shrugged off Haijakku's strongest genjutsu even after she tricked me into drinking her tea. I tore a quisling messiah into shreds while my summoner, the greatest jōnin of the Tesshin Clan, was busy clawing his eyes out. My will is diamond that makes my staff look like a twig.
"This thing made me lose control. It made me shame myself before my allies. Even now, I'm summoning up its image in my mind so I can take one more futile stab at describing it to you, and just from that I have to resist an urge to go back to it. Every beautiful thing I see for the rest of my life will shine a little less because it will be in that Dragon's shadow.
"I don't need your pity," Enma snapped. "Just promise me that when you go to see the Dragons—and you need to go, because every pair of eyes is another chance to figure out their weakness—you'll have the hornets tie you up tight so you don't do anything as stupid as I did."
"Archaeopteryx Island is huge," Enma began. "Almost as big as Snake Island, I reckon, at least since the Boars moved in. That made it feel twice as empty when we arrived. Asuma, you've never been to a bird clan's territory, but I used to have a bunch of friends in Crow—still do, in fact, unless they've croaked—and I know what their skies are supposed to look like. There should have been thousands of archaeopteryxes soaring above the island, maybe tens of thousands, all flying in a big storm of chaos that gradually resolves itself into a dense fabric of interwoven patterns once you start learning both about the island's geography and about how a bird summon sees the world. Even if the summons themselves are assholes, which most crows are, watching them doing what they do all at once is a thing of wonder.
"The land was just as bad," Enma went on. "Describing what I felt as I stood on it… that's even harder. You humans just don't have the senses. Nobody does except a clan boss or one of the true sages, or maybe a mystic who's given up all the things you have to give up to be able to see things as they are.
She also notes that while Hazō is the most Out-touched person in Leaf, there are other sealmasters with unknown degrees of Out experience, as well as summoners with training in recognising danger signs relating to interdimensional travel, and possibly holders of relevant lore she doesn't know about. She has no way of knowing how likely they are to recognise Out inspiration, but they are unlikely to just shrug it off if they do.
In Leaf, the Hagoromo keep the best records of the Sage's life by far.
Of course it would be a Hagoromo. A clan well-known for its facility with documents and its skill in handling sensitive information, Hazō knew from Jin that they were well-represented in the Tower bureaucracy, especially whenever it was time to reject a KEI ninja's urgent paperwork for trivial reasons
"There will not be a clan war in Leaf," Asuma said. "If the Hagoromo spilled the blood of another Leaf ninja, they will pay in blood. The Hokage will ensure the clans of Leaf have peace between them, as Hashirama himself did. If the Hagoromo have become so consumed by hatred that they can no longer accept the possibility of peace, I will excise the rot and cauterize the wound so that they can be whole again. You must accept the possibility of peace, Hazō. You will not start a clan war with the Hagoromo."
Orochimaru pursed his lips. "Very well," he said. "I will need to fetch my seals."
Ten minutes later, Orochimaru set an array of dozens of seals in a large ring (worryingly, keeping each seal face-down) and activated them, causing the woods to fade to large, fuzzy shapes accompanied by only a quiet buzz.
"This barrier will be more than sufficient," Orochimaru said. "Begin."
Orochimaru stood and walked back towards the training field. He paused at the edge of the privacy seals.
"Perhaps had you a few more years of experience under your belt, I might have been able to say that it was a pleasure working with you."
With that, he left to finish tutoring Noburi in the basics of his techniques.
Hazō stayed in the OPSEC-safe bubble, thinking thoughts he'd never thought he'd think. Hazō had spent plenty of time considering the depths of Orochimaru's atrocities – how could he not, having explored the Basement first-hand? Yet… if Orochimaru wasn't lying (and Hazō saw no reason why the Sannin would), and the Sannin had indeed created higher yield crops for the entirety of Fire to farm with, just how many lives had Orochimaru saved?
Once Orochimaru had given Noburi the basic training exercises for forming chakra scalpels in the bright and sunny training field as far from the Basement as reasonably possible within Leaf, the Sannin didn't bother talking with Hazō. Instead, he efficiently set up a perimeter of privacy seals. A hemisphere around an unassuming patch of grass was turned into a warped, distorted haze, and Orochimaru looked at Hazō expectantly, then disappeared into the dome.
"Given recent revelations," Orochimaru said as Hazō entered the warped and hazy hemisphere, "I have taken the liberty of bringing my privacy seals despite your brother's refusal to meet in a suitably secure location. I am certain that additional time thusly gained will be used on a matter of great import that you have previously hidden from me: the imminent resurrection of Pain."