@FaintlySorcerous Posting blurb as requested.
  • Sealing Research
    • Proceed only if Hazou is not too emotionally compromised to concentrate
    • Research Directional Explosives and the next Minoto chain seal
      • Eschew prep, use SSA, reroll -9/-12 on Sealing and Calligraphy rolls.
EDIT: Resolve 60 allows us to multithread SSA, so I've edited my post to include the next Minoto chain seal as well.
 
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Why are we venting to them, exactly? Kei I could understand, but should we be subjecting Shikamaru to this?

Why aren't we asking Mari and Kei?
Ensure Akane's parents are taken care of.
We need to be informing Akane's parents about Akane's death, and do this before our speech telling people in general about Akane's death. This really should be one of, if not the, first thing we do once we get back to Leaf.
 
Why aren't we asking Mari and Kei?
Because as far as Hazo knows they can't be in the same room together.
Why are we venting to them, exactly? Kei I could understand, but should we be subjecting Shikamaru to this?
Shikamaru is our brother-in-law. Venting to safe people outside the clan makes sense - we want to spread the grief around, not concentrate it in Goketsu. He also owes us for not immediately escalating when Akane was late.

And if we break their valuables it doesn't impact Goketsu finances.
We need to be informing Akane's parents about Akane's death, and do this before our speech telling people in general about Akane's death. This really should be one of, if not the, first thing we do once we get back to Leaf.
It had legitimately not occurred to me that this might not have been done given that Shikamaru and Inuzaka have been back in Leaf for several days.
[X] Action Plan: Life Carries On
Word count: <300
  • Timeline: <48 hours.
  • Back in Leaf:
    • Tell Akane's parents. Support them.
    • Schedule an announcement.
    • Sanity-check with Kei, Shikamaru, Kagome, and Mari. Adjust seal bank if necessary. Run speech by Asuma, the KEI.
    • Earthshape a (jade?) statue of Akane (ES 50). Grieve.
  • The speech:
    • Do the thing from FS's omake, minus the fake Iron Nerve slip. Keep the core, adjusting as necessary.
  • Shikamaru/Kei:
    • Venue: extremely private.
    • Tone: venting. Furious. Grieving.
    • What the fuck is happening with the Hagoromo?
      • Directly culpable or not, Ritsuo created an atmosphere where this fucking happened.
      • Are the Goketsu in shit with Asuma? How deep? (Also ask Mari that.)
      • Can Ami help?
    • What the fuck is happening to find out what the fuck happened to Akane?
      • Hidan may be able to track Akane via her blood. Hidan likes us. Can we use that? Frankly we're this close to finding him and asking ourselves.
      • Kei, Akane's seal loadout may have been compromised. How do we handle that for Goketsu and Leaf?
      • Can Ami help?
    • Oh, Orochimaru's probably going to kidnap Ren, figure out the Iron Nerve and solve 3D sealing.
  • The rest:
    • The Goketsu are not, under any circumstances, to escalate or retaliate against the Hagoromo. Check with Mari if you have anything ongoing.
      • Ruka will see consequences.
      • Anything anyone does has to serve a purpose, and bar fights serve no purpose. Channel your grief and rage into training. Talk to each other. Support each other. Mourn. But don't be stupid.
    • Thank Naruto: he authorized the mission and Skywalkers.
    • Apologize to Rock Lee. He didn't deserve that.
    • Catch up on paperwork. Spend time with friends and family. Grieve.
  • Sealing Research
    • If Kagome approves (Hazo's state of mind etc.) research Directional Explosives
      • Eschew prep, use SSA, reroll -9/-12 on Sealing and Calligraphy rolls.
 
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Because as far as Hazo knows they can't be in the same room together.

Shikamaru is our brother-in-law. Venting to safe people outside the clan makes sense - we want to spread the grief around, not concentrate it in Goketsu. He also owes us for not immediately escalating when Akane was late.

And if we break their valuables it doesn't impact Goketsu finances.

It had legitimately not occurred to me that this might not have been done given that Shikamaru and Inuzaka have been back in Leaf for several days.
I just edited my post to account for the fact we can multithread SSA at Resolve 60.
 
Because as far as Hazo knows they can't be in the same room together.
"Excellent," she said. "I would appreciate it if you ensured that she does not leave the compound before I am ready to speak with her."

Hazō gave a broad smile in the predictable, naive misunderstanding of one whose faith in fundamental human nature had inexplicably not yet been crushed by reality.

"Of course, Kei," he said. "I'm so glad you're finally willing to try."
Yes, we know that Kei wasn't actually here to forgive Mari, but the fact that Kei did reconcile with Mari (to a degree) and the ability for the two to be in the same room together without a sense of Ominous Doom appearing since would be promising signs from Hazou's POV that they can function together.
He also owes us for not immediately escalating when Akane was late.
Shikamaru being our in-law is one thing (though I would argue that his status as a different Clan Head trumps that), but I feel like this ("He owes us") is not a good reason for us to vent to him.
 
Shikamaru being our in-law is one thing (though I would argue that his status as a different Clan Head trumps that), but I feel like this ("He owes us") is not a good reason for us to vent to him.
Shikamaru has been back in town for a few days and he has the intelligence we want/need/are requesting.

I'm not going to change it barring a clear and significant negative. I don't think we're going to tank or injure our relationship.
 
Shikamaru has been back in town for a few days and he has the intelligence we want/need/are requesting.

I'm not going to change it barring a clear and significant negative. I don't think we're going to tank or injure our relationship.
Alright, then. Can you at least sanity-check the plan with Mari, or Kei, or whomever? I don't think it's likely that something bad will come of apologizing to Lee, but you never know.
 
This just isn't true though. There are approximately 1500 ninja in Leaf. It takes 5 and half minutes to scribe and infuse one seal. That means to get one for every ninja would take 137.5 hours. That's about 3.5 weeks of 8 hour shifts. A kit of four is over three months
He gets 54 clone hours per day. I thought it was 5 min per seal?
 
5 min to scribe, 30 s to infuse. We usually round to 5 since it makes math easier, but at scale that 30s really adds up.

While we do have 54 hours per day, that means forgoing all seal research and FOOM, which is a very large cost. Not worth paying in most situations.

Also Hazō doesn't automatically succeed on calligraphy checks since SC don't have IN. So we have to verify that we drew the seal correctly if we don't want to cause a seal failure. Add in the fact that showing we can produce any where near that amount of seals is a huge OPSEC risk since it shows how many SC hours we have per day
 
What did Kagome call it? "Survivior Syndrome?" Where a sealmaster obsessed over making "that one seal to save them all?" I think Kagome's falling into that trap.
 
What did Kagome call it? "Survivior Syndrome?" Where a sealmaster obsessed over making "that one seal to save them all?" I think Kagome's falling into that trap.
Kagome: But I actually do know how to make the one seal that will save them all! You gotta believe me!

More seriously, I think he's coming from the same emotional place but, since he does have a loose roadmap to saving them, he's channeling it productively into seals he's qualified to make rather than into an impossible seal that will only cause more misery. Still maybe not healthy, but the big problem with Saviour Syndrome is what would happen when they finally tried that impossible research roll.
 
Alright, then. Can you at least sanity-check the plan with Mari, or Kei, or whomever? I don't think it's likely that something bad will come of apologizing to Lee, but you never know.
Done. Vote?

FWIW, I also think it's extremely important for Hazo to have a big fucking meltdown in a safe, private place if we're going to ask him to give the speech we're going to ask him to give.

@eaglejarl, does my use/invocation of my omake (bolded) feel okay to you? I'm keen to make sure it's alright given that you're doing me (us) a pretty huge favour, wordcount-wise.
[X] Action Plan: Life Carries On
Word count: <300
  • Timeline: <48 hours.
  • Leaf:
    • Tell Akane's parents. Support them.
    • Schedule an announcement.
    • Sanity check with Kei, Shikamaru, Kagome, Mari, Team Akane's families. Adjust seal bank if necessary. Run speech by Asuma, the KEI.
  • Speech:
    • Do the thing from FS's omake.
      • Make any necessary adjustments (e.g., cut the fake IN slip) to keep the core/spirit.
  • Shikamaru/Kei:
    • Invite Mari?
    • Venue: extremely private.
    • Tone: Venting. Furious. Grieving.
    • Hagoromo - what the fuck?
      • Ruka - dead? Imprisoned?
      • Ritsuo is at least indirectly culpable. What's being done?
      • Are the Goketsu in shit with Asuma? How deep? (Also ask Mari.)
      • Can Ami help?
    • What the fuck's being done about Akane?
      • Iron, Rice, Waterfall - anything?
      • Hidan may be able to track Akane via her blood. Hidan likes us. Can we use that? Frankly we're this close to finding him and asking ourselves.
      • Kei, Akane's seal loadout may have been compromised. How do we handle that for Goketsu and Leaf?
      • Can Ami help?
    • Oh, Orochimaru's probably going to kidnap Ren, figure out the Iron Nerve and solve 3D sealing.
  • The rest:
    • Optimize with Kei/Mari.
    • The Goketsu are not, under any circumstances, to escalate or retaliate against the Hagoromo.
      • Ruka will see consequences.
      • Anything we do will serve a purpose. Bar fights serve no purpose.
      • Clear all Hagoromo interactions/ongoing plots with Mari.
      • Channel your grief and rage into productive endeavors. Talk to each other. Support each other. Mourn. Grieve. But don't be stupid.
    • Thank Naruto: he authorized the mission and Skywalkers.
    • Apologize to Lee. We snapped. He didn't deserve that.
    • Earthshape a (jade?) statue of Akane (ES 50).
    • Catch up on paperwork.
    • Spend time with friends, family.
    • Grieve.
  • Sealing Research
    • If Kagome approves (Hazo's mental state etc.) research Directional Explosives/the next Minato seal.
      • Eschew prep, use SSA, reroll -9/-12 on Sealing/Calligraphy rolls.
 
[] Action Plan: Life Carries On

Any chance to move the sanity-check slightly, so it is its own bullet point? As-is it reads a bit like it's specific to the speech and not the plan as a whole.
 
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Another option would be to limit the scope of the seal bank to, for instance, four seals per academy graduate, one time only, instead of a perpetual seal allowance. I don't know how many academy graduates there are, or how long it would take our seal smiths to make those, but it seems plausible that could be a 10 hour per week obligation?
There are around 400 Academy graduates per year. Producing 4 seals per Academy graduate would take around two weeks of sealmaster time, or around two days of Hazou's full-SC time. Around half of the Academy graduates are clanless, so if you wanted to limit to clanless students who don't have a clan's money to buy seals, it would only take around one week of sealmaster time per year, or one full day of Hazou-SCs.

AFAIK (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) our seal smiths mostly get to do as much or as little sealing as they like, sell the seals they make, and make a ton of money doing so. If we were to instead command them to spend a significant fraction of their time making seals for us, which they don't get any money for, that's essentially a huge unpredicted expropriation from our seal smiths (and only our seal smiths) which I think is almost invariably a bad idea in the long run. Our clansmen loose trust in us (because now they know we might spring something like this on them at any time) fewer people are willing to learn sealing, and everyone in the clan is going to be more hesitant to make long-term plans or investments to make themselves better off because we could seize the gains from them at any time, unpredictably. Same reason civilian peasants won't make investments.
Your junior sealmasters, Shinji and Kazushi, spend around five days per month paying their own and Hazou and Kagomes seal tax to the Tower. They spend another three days making seals to satisfy the clan's prodigious demand for explosives and storage seals. After that eats around a quarter of their month, they are free to do whatever they want, essentially. They may make more seals and sell them for their own pocket money, relax, train, or even do sealing research.

@eaglejarl @Velorien @FaintlySorcerous Can I assume that Doing The Thing From FS's Omake also includes making sure we're not breaking leaf law in any way?
You should make sure there is a check with Asuma, as by default it is illegal to give out seals outside of your clan. Normally, the Tower has right of first refusal on any seal transactions, and would definitely buy any seals you are offering for free, but you may be able to convince Asuma to let you directly pass these seals to those in Leaf that need them most.

@Paperclipped Request. Could you please summarize what we know of the timeline of Akane's mission? From assignment to prep to leaving, notifying the clan, expected length and how long after start the attack happened. Trying to understand window for spies to get message to attackers.

Jan 5, noon: Akane is assigned the mission. She notifies Gaku as Hazō is on the Seventh Path.
Jan 6, morning: Team Akane leaves the gates of Leaf.
Jan 6, (unknown time): Attackers enter Fire and find Team Akane's tracks.
Jan 6-7, (unknown time): Attackers engage Team Akane and leave the Fire Country.
Jan 8, night: Expected completion date for the mission.
Jan 10, night: Mission can now be marked late and escalated.
Jan 11, night: Mission must be marked late and escalated.
Jan 14, morning: Hazō discovers that Akane's mission is critically late.

Attacker times are unknown because Canvass cannot smell the hour of the day off of them. She's confident they attacked before sunrise of Jan 7, because there was only one meal's worth of scents at the clearing.
 
@eaglejarl, does my use/invocation of my omake (bolded) feel okay to you? I'm keen to make sure it's alright given that you're doing me (us) a pretty huge favour, wordcount-wise.
Yup, s'all good.

Ziggurat or Buddha.
Akatsuki or anyone aware of the Pure Lands portal could scramble it beyond recovery in the course of research or intentionally. Build decoy portal to protect it. Decoy three meters above real portal. Buddha structure built to encompass both portals. Secretly raise land in 2000 meter cone around portal three meters. Creates avg steepness grade of one degree? Painstakingly preserve relative distances of trees and landmarks. Check that no change is visible from overhead view.
What?
 
[X] Action Plan: Life Carries On

Any chance to move the sanity-check slightly, so it is its own bullet point? As-is it reads a bit like it's specific to the speech and not the plan as a whole.
There are two checks: one for the speech/seal bank specifically. This is quite a bit broader than normal, including Team Akane's loved ones, Shikamaru, Kagome, and the KEI and Asuma (to some extent).

And then we optimize 'the rest' (that's the plan heading) with Kei/Mari. I am trying to use the words 'sanity check' less and less as Hazo grows as a character: our ideas are generally solid and we want to optimize what we're doing, not make sure it isn't insane. It also saves an extra word.
 
There are two checks: one for the speech/seal bank specifically. This is quite a bit broader than normal, including Team Akane's loved ones, Shikamaru, Kagome, and the KEI and Asuma (to some extent).

And then we optimize 'the rest' (that's the plan heading) with Kei/Mari. I am trying to use the words 'sanity check' less and less as Hazo grows as a character: our ideas are generally solid and we want to optimize what we're doing, not make sure it isn't insane. It also saves an extra word.
OK, uh, my intent was asking for a sanity check at the start of the plan; I think I may have not made things clear enough. Can we do this?
 
Also Hazō doesn't automatically succeed on calligraphy checks since SC don't have IN. So we have to verify that we drew the seal correctly if we don't want to cause a seal failure. Add in the fact that showing we can produce any where near that amount of seals is a huge OPSEC risk since it shows how many SC hours we have per day
For explosive and storage seals the Sealing and Callig checks are not a concern. Although it's certainly something to keep in mind for other seals.

As to INFOSEC concerns, one quite knows how many seals we have stockpiled. This would be something we could do in principle by simply having a huge stockpile. So it's not really more suggestive of SC than our clones training in private or the enormous chakra buying.

I am pretty uninterested in the idea personally but I don't think these are super big hurdles to its implementation.


@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped can we have a statement about the legality of distributing seals for free. Maybe if Hazou doesn't know, Kei would? The Tower has a monopoly on sealing seals. But how about giving seals away to strangers? Interclan it's fine, but the mass distribution of explosive and storage seals seems like something the Tower would care about, since they sell those at a profit.

EDIT: Ignore, I didn't read the thread, this concern is going in the plan.
 
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