What's the rationale behind medicine for Kei?
(Assuming Kei, herself, approves of it) it would allow her the comfort of healing herself without being forced to be touched by another person.

I would hesitate to have her overly invest in it beyond a moderate amount without Kei having an in-character enthusiasm for the field (or even just an idle academic interest).
 
What's the rationale behind medicine for Kei?
I can think on some, she need to know how to patch people herself during TI, also of its high enough she can know some places to hit with ninja needles that would be way nastier than kunais, everything in order to make her scarier.
Also she may help patch someone up if REALLY NEEDED.
 
My current action plan.

[X] Action Plan: How Does the Sin of Genocide Sit on a Heart?
Words: tbd
  • Sanity check all with Mari
  • (Unless Akane exhibits discomfort at Hazou's presence) stay by Akane's side. Clan Head duties, meetings, and the like can all be conducted via Shadow Clone. Those who matter won't mind, and those who will, don't.
    • If Akane is discomforted, then perhaps a rotating cast of the other OG Uplift squad?
  • Kei
    • Full dogeza
    • You've helped Akane before. Please help her again. You have a personal insight into her plight.
    • It will be painful for you to talk about.
  • Privately inform Mari about the estate change. Maintain EM Nuke opsec. Be obvious about the questions we do and do not answer. Silently encourage Mari to read between the lines.
  • Misc
    • Gaku: Begin inventory about what we would need to move the estate.
    • Noburi: Want an apprenticeship with Tsunade? We did a thing. It's already been paid for. We're not allowed to talk about it.
    • Kei: What other skills do you want to pick up? Medical? THing? Sealing? Another Element?
 
Also, when Hazou had a concussion from Zabz's aura, and Noburi was treating him, Kei stood at the sidelines, panicking. That could be in-character justification to learn a moderate amount of medical knowledge.
 
Sounds like only Day 1, Day 2, and Day 7 have time for Hazou to read notes, as he leaves on day 2 and gets back on day 7. I'm assuming Akane studied day 1, 2, and 3, but hasn't returned yet so no day 7.

EDIT: Altered due to QM info

Hazou: 16 * 1 (Day 7) = 16 XP
4 * 5 = 20 XP
Total: 36 XP
  • Orochimaru's Sealing notes #2: S:34, B:122, R:44
Akane: 3 * 6 = 18 XP
  • Orochimaru's MedKnow notes #2: S: 0, B: 76, R: 24
Noburi: 3 * 7 = 21 XP. Only 8 XP remained on the first one, so we move on to the less-efficient notes.
  • Orochimaru's MedNin Notes #2: S: 0, B: 100, R: 0
    • 8 XP
  • Orochimaru's MedKnow notes #3: S: 0, B: 10, R: 65
    • 13 XP * 75% = 10 XP (rounded up)
updated notes post
 
Kei
  • Full dogeza
  • You've helped Akane before. Please help her again. You have a personal insight into her plight.
  • It will be painful for you to talk about.

The main thing here is... I don't think we can tell Kei about the EM nuke, so we can't really give Kei context. We have to assume that anyone who Asuma hasn't explicitly given us permission to talk to about it can't be told, even if they know Akane has Elemental Mastery, because they don't know EM is a possible storm-nuke.

IMO Akane just doesn't need to be alone right now, or at least not too much. Ino might be more helpful in this situation, to be honest. Someone more emotionally aware who can at least take Akane's mind off things.
 
[X] Training Kei: What Do You Mean 593?
What's the rationale behind medicine for Kei?
With the mednin notes we have, we can go from Mednin 10 to Mednin 30 without spending a single XP. The overall cost of a level 30 skill is 465 XP, and we only pay 55 XP to reach it, so the efficiency of this pyramid stat is not just halfcost like elemental jutsu, but eighthcost. It's ridiculously efficient for when we get to that part of the build process where we need a ton of low-level skills to support anything higher at our capstone.

Plus, having competent mednin skills means you're able to heal yourself and others when you're out in the field. Mednin 30 isn't crazy good but it's enough to say 'we have a Mednin on the team'. I'll leave why that's important for Tsunade to explain :p
 
The main thing here is... I don't think we can tell Kei about the EM nuke, so we can't really give Kei context. We have to assume that anyone who Asuma hasn't explicitly given us permission to talk to about it can't be told, even if they know Akane has Elemental Mastery, because they don't know EM is a possible storm-nuke.

IMO Akane just doesn't need to be alone right now, or at least not too much. Ino might be more helpful in this situation, to be honest. Someone more emotionally aware who can at least take Akane's mind off things.
We don't have to tell Kei. Kei already knows that "Hazou made a superweapon." Kei was the one who handed the folder to Shikamaru.

"Akane genocided a bunch of civilians in a too-successful test of Hazou's superweapon" is a basic deduction that Kei will be able to make. Kei is a smart person, and that foundational intelligence is driven to new heights when Kei uses the Mori Voice to augment it.

We don't have to tell Kei, because Kei will already know.
 
[X] Training Kei: What Do You Mean 593?

With the mednin notes we have, we can go from Mednin 10 to Mednin 30 without spending a single XP. The overall cost of a level 30 skill is 465 XP, and we only pay 55 XP to reach it, so the efficiency of this pyramid stat is not just halfcost like elemental jutsu, but eighthcost. It's ridiculously efficient for when we get to that part of the build process where we need a ton of low-level skills to support anything higher at our capstone.

Plus, having competent mednin skills means you're able to heal yourself and others when you're out in the field. Mednin 30 isn't crazy good but it's enough to say 'we have a Mednin on the team'. I'll leave why that's important for Tsunade to explain :p
That feel when Kei's skill as a medic nin may surpass Noburi's before the year is out.
 
We don't have to tell Kei. Kei already knows that "Hazou made a superweapon." Kei was the one who handed the folder to Shikamaru.

"Akane genocided a bunch of civilians in a too-successful test of Hazou's superweapon" is a basic deduction that Kei will be able to make. Kei is a smart person, and that foundational intelligence is driven to new heights when Kei uses the Mori Voice to augment it.

We don't have to tell Kei, because Kei will already know.
Yes, but we don't know if Asuma let Kei into the secret, which is an issue if Kei comforts Akane since she is not supposed to know and this implies TREASON things.
 
Yes, but we don't know if Asuma let Kei into the secret, which is an issue if Kei comforts Akane since she is not supposed to know and this implies TREASON things.
"Hazou upset Akane, and Kei is comforting her sister" is a pretty believable story. Especially since Kei helped Akane during the whole Haru/Yakuza thing (she implicated to Akane that it could be a mental sealing failure, though whether Kei believed it herself was questionable).
 
Sanity check all with Mari
You've helped Akane before. Please help her again. You have a personal insight into her plight.
We can't really discuss why Akane needs help without breaking opsec, or at the very least drawing attention to things that Asuma told us we need to keep secret.

We don't have to tell Kei. Kei already knows that "Hazou made a superweapon." Kei was the one who handed the folder to Shikamaru.

"Akane genocided a bunch of civilians in a too-successful test of Hazou's superweapon" is a basic deduction that Kei will be able to make. Kei is a smart person, and that foundational intelligence is driven to new heights when Kei uses the Mori Voice to augment it.

We don't have to tell Kei, because Kei will already know.
It is entirely possible that Kei will figure this out on her own, and entirely possible she'll decide to talk to Akane on her own without prompting. I'd really prefer to err on the side of not doing treason by not bringing this up with Kei.
 
"Hazou upset Akane, and Kei is comforting her sister" is a pretty believable story. Especially since Kei helped Akane during the whole Haru/Yakuza thing (she implicated to Akane that it could be a mental sealing failure, though whether Kei believed it herself was questionable).

It's better not to take the risk. IMO we're better off just having her friends and loved ones keep an eye on her and give her company as needed so she's not spending too much time in her own head.

I think we really need to internalize this isn't something that's going to immediately be made better by a single conversation. Akane needs time to process this and come to terms with it. The best thing we can do is ensure she's got as healthy of an environment as we can provide in order to do that.
 
I'd def appreciate it if we could see if ES 40 does anything for us.
We were already told what it does in the chapter he got it, it was edited to be before EM nuke. It lets Hazou change the density of stone by 50% (either 50% less dense or 50% denser)

The only immediate use I've considered beyond structure building is stronger obsidian. It's the sharpest surface we have even in modern times, the blade edge is like atoms across. Problem is it's flaky and breaks, but ES can fix that. Still, I'm not sure this is really much better than iron when it comes to weapons besides being lighter and sharper. Maybe it provides a small bonus for being lighter idk. Also useful for medical tools.

But in terms of 3D Sealing, don't think it does anything yet. It will be useful for increasing density to miniaturize them though, or making them less dense to make them lighter and easier to carry.
 
We were already told what it does in the chapter he got it, it was edited to be before EM nuke. It lets Hazou change the density of stone by 50% (either 50% less dense or 50% denser)

The only immediate use I've considered beyond structure building is stronger obsidian. It's the sharpest surface we have even in modern times, the blade edge is like atoms across. Problem is it's flaky and breaks, but ES can fix that. Still, I'm not sure this is really much better than iron when it comes to weapons besides being lighter and sharper. Maybe it provides a small bonus for being lighter idk. Also useful for medical tools.

But in terms of 3D Sealing, don't think it does anything yet. It will be useful for increasing density to miniaturize them though, or making them less dense to make them lighter and easier to carry.
I recall there was commentary on combining it with Noburi's water to attempt to make chakra metal?
 
One possible issue with Kei learning TH: Any Jutsu she creates would not be exclusively Gouketsu property, and possibly would be exclusively Nara property, I'm not sure what the law is on that.
 
I recall there was commentary on combining it with Noburi's water to attempt to make chakra metal?

>:3

One possible issue with Kei learning TH: Any Jutsu she creates would not be exclusively Gouketsu property, and possibly would be exclusively Nara property, I'm not sure what the law is on that.
Eh, it depends. We don't know the exact details of their marriage contract, and several characters have listed the Pangolin Scroll as belonging to the Goketsu. And then you get into the fact that (personal friendship and respect aside) Kei and Shikamaru don't exactly have a "traditional" balance of power within their relationship (Kei is one third of the KEI Triumverate, for one) and could make Shikamaru's life hell if she wanted to.

If Kei weren't (technically) allowed to share her TH creations with the Goketsu because of her marriage contract (which may not be a factor), then she could lean on Shikamaru to share it with the Goketsu, or at least offer to sell it to them for a mutually beneficial trade.
 
So uh, how come Kei doesn't know any Nara jutsu still? Is she allowed to learn any? Is it bloodline related? I thought they were just secret techniques but maybe that's Nara propaganda
 
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