- Pronouns
- He/Him
You can have multiple ARS paired to a single seal?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
- Start date
-
- Tags
- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Hey @Shrooms since you are on the killing them all plan, some people make a point that a chakra beast masking will not likely to work.
So i propuse a change in approach,
Unseal bodies of chakra beast on the ground and to make it look like fight and start an wildfire burning the combat scene, make everything untraceable by liberal use of fire.
So i propuse a change in approach,
Unseal bodies of chakra beast on the ground and to make it look like fight and start an wildfire burning the combat scene, make everything untraceable by liberal use of fire.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
This seems a lot more suspicious to me. I'd be interested in hearing how other voters feel about it though
- Location
- USA
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
I mean we did use fire for great effect before and the other 2 options had holes pointed out by the opposing sides. So yeah blame on the last dich effort of a gire stylist that rendered the chakra beast corpses unrecognizable, this is the best i got.
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
So, uh. How are we feeling about the idea of capturing a few of them if it's expedient, interrogating them, then killing them? I see one of the plans has us take captives, interrogate them, then release them, and another just kills everyone outright. The first seems like it'd create an immense amount of trouble for us down the line (they know we're Leaf, Asuma will be furious that we've soured the relations so, especially if we could've prevented this but didn't out of sentiment), the second seems like it leaves a pile of utility at the table (they probably know something about the Scroll situation, and definitely know the geopolitical landscape of the region).
We probably wouldn't even have to physically torture them, Kei should be able to casually rip the feeble minds of these genin open with words alone. But I guess it might still be too OOC for us to... psychologically torture... a few defenders of a sovereign nation we've invaded in the pursuit of power... who as far as we know have done nothing wrong... whom we've taken prisoner... before killing them in cold blood. Huh. Umm. Hahaha. Yeah.
Bah! Forget I said anything.
We probably wouldn't even have to physically torture them, Kei should be able to casually rip the feeble minds of these genin open with words alone. But I guess it might still be too OOC for us to... psychologically torture... a few defenders of a sovereign nation we've invaded in the pursuit of power... who as far as we know have done nothing wrong... whom we've taken prisoner... before killing them in cold blood. Huh. Umm. Hahaha. Yeah.
Bah! Forget I said anything.
Last edited:
- Location
- Italy
Suggestions:
-Storages Seal that release substitution targets
-Goo bombs? It seems it would be useful at least in Chain 2
-Chain 3 could benefit from storage seals that release obstructions or defences, maybe walls covered in fake seals blanks? Few people would attack a wall covered in seals, after all.
6 ft is for vibrator seals. Chakdar has an unspecified range
- Location
- Italy
The only thing the Seals doc says is " It's been fine-tuned so that jutsu give different vibrations to more routine stuff like wall-walking/chakra-boosting, and so that intensity of vibrations correlates to distance", not much else from what i can see.
We know it's in a specific direction instead of a sphere, so i imagine it could have more range? Maybe? Who knows?
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Kinda sucks that after two rounds of improving a seal they are effectively useless. But C'est la vie c'est la vie
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Hey, blame Radvic, not us. We originally thought they would block LOS. He's the one who did the math and figured out that they wouldn't. Granted, the reason he did that was to earn a retcon of the stampede disaster in the fourth event.
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Yep, it is the most lucrative way of doing things, there's no way people here will go fo it. Just hop in the murrder train, it at leas won't make things worse.
I mean they tried to kill us. First instinct says that's disproportionate for scouting their land. Although I suppose perhaps scouting their land typically in consequence causes deaths of their members from the future value of the intel which would make more understandable.
But also any ninja we meet are probably murderers of innocent people. Although there are deontological troubles with relying on probably instead of certainty. But Team Uplift is also murderers of innocent people.
Also I don't think releasing them would be that big of a deal policitically? Like foreign ninja probably scout their land all the time in minor conflicts. What I would be worried about is the massive manhunt that would ensue from them knowing 2 summoning scrolls are up for grabs on their land.
edit2:
if we could spin letting them go into some sort of precedent or new norm for protocol between encounters between enemy ninja. to make them end less lethally. that would be valuable. but i don't see a viable way to make that happen from just letting them go. team gai trained in non-lethal takedowns. in future could investigate if they do that for enemy ninja, and if so what effects that has had on relations.
edit3: if we could defeat them all non-lethally. we might be able to spin some good will from that. and cash that in to get their aid on stuff. but i don't think that would work if we spare the genin but kill their cherished mentors.
Last edited:
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yes, a single seal can have multiple ARS seals paired to it.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
We weren't trying for a fight here so I think just trying to survive is sufficient. But... we could ambush a second patrol later and so long as they don't realize where we're from or anything else about us, this could work
Unless Yuno'd holding out on us only Hazou has deception worth a damn though so he'd be the one prying the information out
Last edited:
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Drill sergeant pangolin would probably be even beter
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Only issue is our enemies can also use them
Do you mean chain 3? I don't think putting it in 2 helps unless you need to cover yourself in goo for some reason (and Mari isn't even on this mission!)
I'm hesitant to include stacked storage seals due to bad things happening from several storage seals not having room to unseal all their contents. The idea is otherwise fine, similar to what Sentient Tree proposed
Yeah this only works for killing them cuz it'll confirm identities without a doubt (even if they don't know the pangolin Summoner at the moment they could easily find out)
Last edited:
Especially since the way the entry Known Seals doc is phrased it's unclear that they're completely useless! I legitimately thought we had an initiative boosting seal based on the way it's written. But instead it needs another round of improvements.
Given how important Initiative is turning out to be. I think we should make it our next project, predicated on Hazou living through this one.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
What's even worse is that since we never got the mechanics we never knew that they where useless when we finished them. I would have voted to do another round of improvements if I knew at the time they didn't do anything
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm on of the chief proponents of 'chakra beast death is unlikely'.
My feeling here is that it's their home turf, presumably no more than a day or three out of their village, and there's five of them, at least two of whom are career chuunin (or better!) - if that sort of party got done in by chakra beasts with no survivors that close to Leaf, that would set off alarm bells IMO. It would mean that there was some very deadly threat in very near vicinity of Leaf that Leaf wasn't aware of, and I don't think that chakra beasts really work like that - they have their turf and stick to it.
The best thing we can hope for by sealing corpses, faking a weird battle, and generally muddying the waters, is a big 'huh???' reaction that might slow them down or misdirect them a little, or maybe spike our threat rating to 'give them a wide fucking berth'. I don't think there's any way that the death of five shinobi will simply be written off unless they're hugely incompetent...especially given that they've now put up the 'holy shit we need help' signal which might even be nin-specific.
I think that setting a fuck-you fire is pretty innocuous given that one of them is clearly fire element. You're fighting, you throw out a fireball, you lose, your opponent doesn't give a damn about putting it out, so it escalates/spreads. The only real drawback is that if we're caught they can add environmental destruction to our tab.
Unsealing chakra beasts doesn't strike me as a great idea; they're going to look at the (charred) corpses and it's entirely possible that they'll immediately recognize something is up - they're positioned wrong, they wouldn't have burnt, they're in the wrong area, etc. Leaving that to Yuno seems smart; she's the expert.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
There's def some merit to what you say, how about I just add both to the end and ask Kei which is better? She's the optimizer after all
- Location
- Yes.
KEI: *staring at Akane's corpse* Kagome.response.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Akane's about the least likely person to die here... Kei has worse stats and is on half chakra and Hazou has Hazou stats
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
If you have the wordcount I'd explicitly loop in Yuno, too.