@Paperclipped, could we have a provisional ruling on how CHAOS suits and MARS would function in combat please?
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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CHAOS Suits: most seals are easy to access. You do not need to spend a Supplemental to retrieve them from equipment pouches.
MARS: Activates two seals at once (though there's a random delay on both activations, order is not guaranteed). Requires a Supplemental, but is usually fast enough that the result is resolved immediately even with 5 or 10 in a chain.
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Do I need to clarify in my MARS load out plan an order in which the chains will stay under 10 or do you think it's straightforward enough
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I'll do whatever I think is the "default sensible" thing if you don't specify. Feel free to do so if you have a clever application.
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The lack of order is a little nasty for things like Banshee Fuckers/Slayers where we really want to have one on before we trigger the other.
Is the maximum delta between the seals activating sufficiently large that exposure to [insert nasty seal] for that duration would be mechanically relevant, or can we assume that if we trigger [nasty seal] and [seal that protects us from the aforementioned nasty seal] off the same MARS, we'll be effectively protected?
More generally: given that we can do things like have the Slayer earlier in the chain (for large chains) and the Fucker later in the chain, do we really need to worry about this? I'm not sure what level of bookkeeping is expected: we can definitely sort out MARS chain topologies such that we aren't getting nailed with negative effects, but I'm not sure if this is below the level of fidelity the QMs care about.
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Roughly, seals with less distance from the root will usually trigger before seals with more distance from the root. Just don't assume simultaneity (explosives will still destroy other explosives, not all go off at once) or order among seals an equal distance from the root.
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No wonder she's so powerful, she can assimilate you into her hivemind!
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Should still be able to ensure the Slayers come earlier in the order
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@Paperclipped would a ninja be able to throw two MARS stacks in different directions and activate both stakes at the same time?
Because I'm thinking that the best MARS stack strategy would be a paired offense and defense stack. We could have one stack that triggers concentric earth and air domes first from both stacks Yuno would throw and then have a second stack that is every lethal seal we have going off at once.
Because I'm thinking that the best MARS stack strategy would be a paired offense and defense stack. We could have one stack that triggers concentric earth and air domes first from both stacks Yuno would throw and then have a second stack that is every lethal seal we have going off at once.
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Not if you wanted to aim them, which is a Standard for one Ranged Weapons check. Also, activating two seals costs two Supplementals.
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Dropping them, however, is a free action
Two stacks can still have the same root activating MARS, which would only be one, no?
Specify which chains?
Worth adding Hide Like a Mole if injured?
Are SCs weaker than Flame Aura?
Should she use any of the ranged MARS chains?
Worth using a Declaration to have dropped some of the droppable chains before they caught up? If not behind, maybe ahead of us to substitute with?
Emergency contract with 7th Path medics for dire wounds. If Kei is not down, she can refill with Noburi at the next check in.
Summoning is expensive but erasing traces with ES is too slow. Eavesdrop before dispelling? Should the Dog do anything if one is summoned and survives combat? Lay a false trail?
Waaaaaaah?
Chain 1 is independent from Chain 2, correct? If Yuno is missing or taken out, everyone should have a top of the chain button. Dangerous to use if any allies are prone or crouching.
How many Chains can be worn at the same time? Three for three rounds of combat? Specify how many of each Chain # is normal? Combos of the ranged Chains activated by the same MARS should be specified.
When summoner dies new summoner can sign scroll.
Itachi died and brought back. Got crow message. Means he became summoner again. Wonder if he had to resign scroll or if it auto remade him summoner.
What if summoner always stay summoner even when dead? What happens if you sign a scroll that still has alive summoner? Do bad things happen?
What happen to hazou summoner if jiraiya brought back? Will those same bad things happen unless hazou relinquish summoner status before necromancy ritual?
Edit: is paper clipped a QM now?
Itachi died and brought back. Got crow message. Means he became summoner again. Wonder if he had to resign scroll or if it auto remade him summoner.
What if summoner always stay summoner even when dead? What happens if you sign a scroll that still has alive summoner? Do bad things happen?
What happen to hazou summoner if jiraiya brought back? Will those same bad things happen unless hazou relinquish summoner status before necromancy ritual?
Edit: is paper clipped a QM now?
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I don't think we need to micromanage Paper too hard about this sort of thing, especially since the characters are going to have more context for what's happening in a given moment than we are
Debatable. If Akane summons 2 clones they'll only have 33 chakra each. For a single round that might be better but once they stop being able to PKH the usefulness falls off. Flame Aura is nice because she can use the tags, or pass them to Yuno, but it has drawbacks too.
Maybe. I expect that would be a flat DC for them to use athletics to dodge, so I'm not sure it's going to take out any of the serious threats. Hazou might honestly want to hold onto that FP.
I don't think they have medical ninjutsu. The Dogs don't at the least, didn't seem like the Pangolins did either.
These are good questions... May want the Dog to come with us to carry any injured if they don't get popped. Then again, they can't skywalk.
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Fair enough, this loadout was for this specific fight but if it's carried forward, could be useful to specify this.
I don't know. There's only so much room for us to wear multiple sets of Seals outside our bodies.
@Paperclipped Are Yuno, Kei and Snowflake starting with weapons out?
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[X] (MARS loadout) Stack Buffs Punch Hard
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[X] For the Glory of Jashin!
[X] (MARS loadout) Stack Buffs Punch Hard
The panic is rrrreal! Thank you for putting something together!
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I would like to add "Hazou exchanges 40 XP for 4 Fate Points" since he only has 3 right now.
Are any of you strongly opposed to this? I hate to give it up, but if it's the difference between Hazou dying and not dying, well...
For the record, Kei is at 7 FP and Akane is at 9 FP
I would like to add "Hazou exchanges 40 XP for 4 Fate Points" since he only has 3 right now.
Are any of you strongly opposed to this? I hate to give it up, but if it's the difference between Hazou dying and not dying, well...
For the record, Kei is at 7 FP and Akane is at 9 FP
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I'm okay with exchanging up to 100 XP for 10 FP
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Might make the difference between autopilot helplessly watching someone bleed out or trying something foolish.
If we can only wear one, everyone is probably wearing a Chain 1 that doubles as a Chain 2.
Not going for micromanaging. Trying to make Paper's job easier when running combat is hard enough. True that overspecifying risks making mistakes.
Great idea. Very in favor.
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Def don't want to aim them just get one in front of the party and one behind us. That way we can activate one and be in a series of air domes and earth domes.
If we can't do that, we can have Yuno drop one in front of her and have the second half of the domes be on snowflake. So she would probably get exploded but everyone else would be under cover
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FOOM once again comes to our rescue. Also, compared to XP lost by not FOOMing, 100 XP is basically nothing.
Incidentally, i'm for 100 XP->10 FP too. We cannot upgrade anything if we're dead.