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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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eaglejarl said:
The Great Seal wasn't like that. It had oceans of chakra flowing through it. Vast, rampaging torrents that moved with smoothness enough to made the finest glass seem jagged, except for the tiny places where the leakage caused turbulence that was slowly eating away at the rips in the Seal's channels, where it leaked out like blood from a wound that could not be staunched. Not a big wound, not a wound that would kill you in minutes. A wound that left you with plenty of time to seek out a medic...assuming there were any medics available who knew how to treat the wound.
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I wonder if Akatsuki was going to stuff all of the Tailed Beast chakra in their ritual seal to power it up.
 
I propose if we can get a 2d stone seal working... That we make a simple one which just gets hot and can be turned on and off easily.

Very handy for industrial and domestic applications since it should be chemically inert and temperature tolerant (in particular, quartz or silica glass has a very high melting point and low expansion coefficient).

One that gets cold would also be handy.
 
Rather than simply level earth shaping could we not create a seal to help us filter molten rock? I feel like we've discussed using a modified Usamatsu's Glorious Life-Saving Preserver for something like this before. That seal filters air. Why can't we make own to filter molten rock?

EDIT: Obviously they're might be other reasons to level earthshaping in the future, but rather then toss a bunch of xp at leveling up the jutsu in hopes of fixing this problem, why not try leverage the skills we already have?
 
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So... Snowflake update for the next chapter? Maybe co-training with Kei to uncap her Resolve? Maybe we could practice handholding with Snowflake, Hazou, and Tenten while discussing the death of her other romantic partners? Emotional vulnerability and physical touch is something that would test Kei's Resolve and would have consequences if failed.

We could also use that update to give Snowflake the Earthshaped Friendship Bracelet... Just saying.
 
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RandomOTP said:
So... Snowflake update for the next chapter? Maybe co-training with Kei to uncap her Resolve? Maybe we could practice handholding with Snowflake, Hazou, and Tenten while discussing the death of her other romantic partners? Emotional vulnerability and physical touch is something that would test Kei's Resolve and would have consequences of failed.

We could also use that update to give Snowflake the Earthshaped Friendship Bracelet... Just saying.
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Give her an Earthshaped Explosive Seal Friendship Bracelet.
 
[X] Do Not Commit Treason

RandomOTP said:
So... Snowflake update for the next chapter? Maybe co-training with Kei to uncap her Resolve? Maybe we could practice handholding with Snowflake, Hazou, and Tenten while discussing the death of her other romantic partners? Emotional vulnerability and physical touch is something that would test Kei's Resolve and would have consequences of failed.

We could also use that update to give Snowflake the Earthshaped Friendship Bracelet... Just saying.
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I prefer that we progress the plot and work on developing tools for increasing the survival of our clan members, especially Haru, Akane, and Yuno.
 
Kiba said:
[X] Do Not Commit Treason



I prefer that we progress the plot and work on developing tools for increasing the survival of our clan members, especially Haru, Akane, and Yuno.
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We would be progressing the plot. We'd be helping Kei through her trauma and developing her training plan in such a way that increases the chances of her survival. We can do additional stuff offscreen, of course, but Snowflake's birthday may already be a mandatory scene for the next update, as per EJ's statement.
eaglejarl said:
Author's Notes: Voting is open, but Snowflake's birthday may become a mandatory scene for the next plan, at @Velorien's discretion.
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RandomOTP said:
We would be progressing the plot. We'd be helping Kei through her trauma and developing her training plan in such a way that increases the chances of her survival. We can do additional stuff offscreen, of course, but Snowflake's birthday may already be a mandatory scene for the next update, as per EJ's statement.
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I don't particularly care for playing more Therapist onscreen.
 
Kiba said:
I don't particularly care for playing more Therapist onscreen.
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I acknowledge your reluctance, but would like to point out that it's a well-established character trait of Hazou's. Further, I propose the hypothetical that, we-the-hivemind don't do anything, then Hazou-pilot may take control in order to comfort Kei and Snowflake (both of whom he knows are grieving the deaths of romantic partners) on his own, without hivemind optimization. It would be in-character for Hazou-pilot to do so.
 
RandomOTP said:
I acknowledge your reluctance, but would like to point out that it's a well-established character trait of Hazou's. Further, I propose the hypothetical that, we-the-hivemind don't do anything, then Hazou-pilot may take control in order to comfort Kei and Snowflake (both of whom he knows are grieving the deaths of romantic partners) on his own, without hivemind optimization. It would be in-character for Hazou-pilot to do so.
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"Actually, Hazō… there is something I've been meaning to ask you," Keiko said uneasily.

"What's that?"

Keiko's gaze drifted downwards, studying the blades of grass as if a perfect knowledge of botany was an absolute requirement of their mission.

"I… well… how do you stand it?"

Hazō blinked. "What are you talking about?"

"It is something I've had cause to contemplate over the last few weeks, nothing more," Keiko said just a little faster than normal, almost stumbling over the words, "and Mari-sensei is far away, and you and I have a certain commonality of communication, and please feel free to stop me if you find the subject uncomfortable or uninteresting, but…"

"What is it, Keiko?"

Keiko's voice slowed down to something closer to its normal speed. "I am aware that my… preference… is the exception rather than the norm, and that other people likely find my aberrant tendencies confusing or distasteful at best, and it is a source of continuing amazement to me that you and the rest of the team not only tolerate but respect them. But we have never… discussed them as such, and if you don't mind…"

"Keiko," Hazō laughed, "there's nothing aberrant about you liking girls. I mean, it's kind of confusing, and maybe a little weird, but it seems to work for you, and we all know for a fact that you're not a bad person. You can like whomever you like, and we're always going to be there to support you or make fun of you or whatever it is people are supposed to do when one of their friends likes someone."

Keiko assumed an all-too-familiar look of practiced tolerance. "While your vote of confidence is certainly appreciated, Hazō, I am well aware of your feelings in this regard. I would say we covered the issue, and much else besides, most comprehensively in the aftermath of my disastrous confession to Mari-sensei. May I return to the topic I actually wanted to discuss?"

Hazō now felt like an idiot, but at least it had calmed Keiko down.

"Go ahead."

Keiko gathered her thoughts for a second.

"Hazō, how can you stand to surrender control of your body to others with such extraordinary frequency? How does physical contact not engender in you a reflexive instinct to escape or to defend yourself?

"I am told that my mother would hold me as a small child, before I displayed my lack of value and my parents lost interest in me. And Ami, my sister, holds—held a unique position of trust which can never be replicated by another person, in addition to being able to read my mood and judge my degree of approachability to a degree far beyond even Mari-sensei's abilities. But for as long as I can remember, I have had a clear sense of personal boundaries, and I do not understand how other people do not."

"What about taijutsu?" Hazō asked curiously. "We've done full-contact sparring plenty of times."

"The purpose of taijutsu is to establish control over the engagement. To master taijutsu is to permit physical contact precisely and exclusively in the manner of one's own choosing, and terminate it as quickly as is practical. Even then, I chose to specialise in ranged combat as soon as circumstances permitted.

"Yet others surrender their bodies to each other freely and casually, with no sense of danger, and worse, they expect me to do the same."

Keiko looked down at the grass again. "It is not an issue I can afford to ignore forever. Not with a marriage to come, and… other concerns. I was wondering whether you had any insight to offer into how the majority of people can willingly lower their most essential defences so completely as to not merely tolerate another's touch but to enjoy it."

Hazō had known, vaguely in the back of his head, that Keiko didn't like being touched, but he'd never really thought about the how and why of it. It was just one of those strange things, like how some people were afraid of spiders or loud noises.

He frowned. "So it's about interacting with other people, not about the sensation of touch itself? I mean, you touch yourself all the time, right?"

Unexpectedly, Keiko leapt to her feet, face blazing red.

"Th-That is not a topic open for discussion!"

"What? …oh. Keiko, I didn't mean—"

"Excuse me," Keiko said quickly, "I need to go polish my shuriken."

Hazō just looked at her. Keiko somehow managed to go even redder.

"I didn't mean it like that! My equipment simply needs hands-on maintenance!"

Hazō kept looking at her.

"I—I—Goodbye, Hazō!"

Keiko fled.

Hazō could do nothing but thank his lucky stars that Mari-sensei wasn't on this mission.
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RandomOTP said:
I acknowledge your reluctance, but would like to point out that it's a well-established character trait of Hazou's. Further, I propose the hypothetical that, we-the-hivemind don't do anything, then Hazou-pilot may take control in order to comfort Kei and Snowflake (both of whom he knows are grieving the deaths of romantic partners) on his own, without hivemind optimization. It would be in-character for Hazou-pilot to do so.
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You may enjoy this kind of thing, but I find these scenes exhausting. I prefer to focus on something that's extremely interesting to me: 3D Sealing and/or the Afterlife.

But there's a difference between what we need to do as opposed to what we find interesting.
 
RandomOTP said:
So... Snowflake update for the next chapter? Maybe co-training with Kei to uncap her Resolve? Maybe we could practice handholding with Snowflake, Hazou, and Tenten while discussing the death of her other romantic partners? Emotional vulnerability and physical touch is something that would test Kei's Resolve and would have consequences of failed.

We could also use that update to give Snowflake the Earthshaped Friendship Bracelet... Just saying.
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Hazou could definitely use more decapping of Resolve. They could always trade off practicing their jounin auras.
 
Kiba said:
You may enjoy this kind of thing, but I find these scenes exhausting. I prefer to focus on something that's extremely interesting to me: 3D Sealing and/or the Afterlife.

But there's a difference between what we need to do as opposed to what we find interesting.
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When you comment that you aren't interested in engaging with interpersonal and emotional elements of the quest it frequently reads to me like you're saying that they don't have value at all.

(Emphasis - to me, it reads like that's what you're saying. Not, objectively, that is the only read someone could get from it. Text communication compresses meaning and flattens tone.)

Hearing something you care about dismissed feels bad, generally.

It seems a little odd for you to state what you don't want to do. One infers that you aren't interested in doing to because you're advocating we do other things and you're not lamenting that we can't do that thing instead. The only reasons I can see for saying 'I don't want to do this' are to make your feelings known (on this topic, I think most readers of the thread have heard you) or to convince people not to do that thing - and 'I don't find it interesting' is far less convincing than I would expect you to be given based on past experience.

Is there another reason you bring it up?
 
So, time to go shopping for a small sample of everything that might be stonelike? See if we can find someone with a Geology skill, see if the Nara have any Geology books.

My OOC thoughts are Graphite, a pure carbon material with a very regular crystal structure that naturally forms in layers as a possible easy material.
 
ClawClawBite said:
So, time to go shopping for a small sample of everything that might be stonelike? See if we can find someone with a Geology skill, see if the Nara have any Geology books.

My OOC thoughts are Graphite, a pure carbon material with a very regular crystal structure that naturally forms in layers as a possible easy material.
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The problem with Graphite is that it will not hold its shape as well as other stone would; even brushing against it would shave it off, no?
 
FaintlySorcerous said:
When you comment that you aren't interested in engaging with interpersonal and emotional elements of the quest it frequently reads to me like you're saying that they don't have value at all.

(Emphasis - to me, it reads like that's what you're saying. Not, objectively, that is the only read someone could get from it. Text communication compresses meaning and flattens tone.)

Hearing something you care about dismissed feels bad, generally.

It seems a little odd for you to state what you don't want to do. One infers that you aren't interested in doing to because you're advocating we do other things and you're not lamenting that we can't do that thing instead. The only reasons I can see for saying 'I don't want to do this' are to make your feelings known (on this topic, I think most readers of the thread have heard you) or to convince people not to do that thing - and 'I don't find it interesting' is far less convincing than I would expect you to be given based on past experience.

Is there another reason you bring it up?
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I view them as problems to be solved, much in the way we need to crush Rock so that the Goketsu survives, but they are not of in and itself an intrinsic interest to me.

But given that interpsonal relationship management is a huge portion of this quest and some people seems to like these kind of things, we can't avoid it.
 
18scsc said:
Rather than simply level earth shaping could we not create a seal to help us filter molten rock? I feel like we've discussed using a modified Usamatsu's Glorious Life-Saving Preserver for something like this before. That seal filters air. Why can't we make own to filter molten rock?
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I would def be ok with taking one Hazō clone off of resolve training and have him work on this project
 
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