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Well, if we need ideas about what we want to do this next update, I suggest we focus on learning the local culture. It's something non-threatening we can do and it should help us repair our relationship with the village two weeks after we nearly exploded them.
My preferred plan is something like ignore the village, do research. Maybe have Akane try to learn the fire scroll? We've already got research projects for Hazou and Noburi.
 
My preferred plan is something like ignore the village, do research. Maybe have Akane try to learn the fire scroll? We've already got research projects for Hazou and Noburi.

How about splitting the difference? If the village wants us to learn their culture, we do so while still devoting 50% of our time to research.

If not, we can focus 100% on research.

I've just got the feeling that the more we snub the village the more likely it is that our nameless 3rd party antagonist will be able to procure more allies. We need to make an effort to have a mutually beneficial relationship since, apparently, we have used up all of the goodwill Noburi's healing made for us.
 
I would imagine replacement would give you an auto roll of stealth after doing it, so that you can more easily disengange or attack from ambush/leave traps/do some setup for a long cast jutsu.
 
I bet that when we come across ninja with actual ninjutsu, there'll also be a bunch of jutsu skills that are used to in place of some of these skills. Gaara for example would prolly roll his sand armour against weapons (maybe with penalty dice?) if we threw a tag at him instead of tacMove, since he'd try to tank it instead of dodging.

Hmmm....

"The attack roll for explosives depends on the delivery method: Weapons for thrown explosives"
"The defence roll [agains explosives] is Tactical Movement for the melee/ranged"

If I'm reading this right, with Gaara using sand armor as defence, rolling for kunai (wep) is same as rolling for kunai with tags (wep again). Solution.. flat penalty dice to jutsu? A sealing-based bonus to wep? Stronger sealmaster would be able to make better tags after all. (more intense explosion? greater range?

I'm kinda surprised Sealing score of tag-maker doesn't figure in the attack roll. 1/4 -1/6 would make sense. Someone like Kagome can come up with scarier stuff then Hazou


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Re mingling vs research:
We can't do research 24/7 anyway. It's something like 8-12 ish hrs per day, max? We don't have to choose. We can do both.
 
Degrees of success/failure, remember? I don't think Kei could deliver a one-hit kill on Hazou (unless he rolled real bad, she rolled real good, and then Hazou rolled real bad -again- because bloodline buff)
So I'm thinking Hazou gets injured(degree varies), closes in, and then it's lolroki tiem.

But think about it. We've been pretty confident in Hazou's strength since with Roki he can challenge enemies with 18 dice. If any ninja can challenge our TacMove with their main Ranged skill instead of their own TacMov, Hazou drops from the 18 dice club to the 10 dice club strength wise.

In our Keiko vs. Hazou example, Keiko would get on average something like 250 points over Hazou's roll. I'm pretty sure that's a major success on Keiko, meaning Hazou gets a debilitating injury or just dies instantly.


Shit, we really do need to start upping our TacMove. For the moment if our 4 genin face 4 opponents that are slightly worse than Kouta (say 10 Weapons instead of his 12? Taijutsu as main skills), Hazou and Akane would both have 50/50 chance to just die. If the opponents have explosives to tie to their kunais, same would go for Noburi and Keiko too.
 
We should also consider spending time with our team. We should give Kagome some attention so he knows our snub against him wasn't intentional; also see about going on a mountaineering expedition with him. Reassure Akane that she's awesome, and offer our support to Keiko -- though not in a therapy-y way. I'm thinking more like assuring her that we have her back regarding Takashiko. Make her feel more confident in herself and all. Noburi could probably do with being thanked for his tireless effort in not getting us ran out of the village, and Mari... I'm not sure we need do anything in particular for her, though we probably should.

If we're going to have some time to spare, we should be able to make sure team relations are good in addition to researching. Social Link + and what not.

e: I'm not sure if it's too early to be reasonable to talk to our team about, but we could discuss Kagome's birthday gifts with them.
 
But think about it. We've been pretty confident in Hazou's strength since with Roki he can challenge enemies with 18 dice. If any ninja can challenge our TacMove with their main Ranged skill instead of their own TacMov, Hazou drops from the 18 dice club to the 10 dice club strength wise.

In our Keiko vs. Hazou example, Keiko would get on average something like 250 points over Hazou's roll. I'm pretty sure that's a major success on Keiko, meaning Hazou gets a debilitating injury or just dies instantly.


Shit, we really do need to start upping our TacMove. For the moment if our 4 genin face 4 opponents that are slightly worse than Kouta (say 10 Weapons instead of his 12? Taijutsu as main skills), Hazou and Akane would both have 50/50 chance to just die. If the opponents have explosives to tie to their kunais, same would go for Noburi and Keiko too.

It's not the flat difference though. It's... let's see... 250/25**0.65=31

Fuck if I remember how it translates to severety, but sure doesn't look too scary.
[fixes math] looks moderately scary

actually looks hella scary given that Hazou vs spiderbear was (454-336) / (6+6)^0.65 = 24

@eaglejarl @Velorien @Jackercracks @AugSphere could you tell us how bad that Kei vs Hazou Wep vs TM would go, injury-wise?

Would he survive till second round?

E: oh, and while I'm being a bother, could we have another timeline update, please? Red Letter took one day, Trust 1 week and Ants 2, but I'm not sure on the beginning of our stay :/

Course, I'm fine with raising TM either way. Running away is very important for young nin who want to grow old.
E: after fixing math more than fine with more TM!
 
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We should also consider spending time with our team. We should give Kagome some attention so he knows our snub against him wasn't intentional; also see about going on a mountaineering expedition with him. Reassure Akane that she's awesome, and offer our support to Keiko -- though not in a therapy-y way. I'm thinking more like assuring her that we have her back regarding Takashiko. Make her feel more confident in herself and all. Noburi could probably do with being thanked for his tireless effort in not getting us ran out of the village, and Mari... I'm not sure we need do anything in particular for her, though we probably should.

If we're going to have some time to spare, we should be able to make sure team relations are good in addition to researching. Social Link + and what not.

I had some social stuff in my plan, you wanna take a look? Some is a bit dated, since it's been 2 weeks since main event of last chapter, but some should be salvageable
 
I had some social stuff in my plan, you wanna take a look? Some is a bit dated, since it's been 2 weeks since main event of last chapter, but some should be salvageable
D'you have a link to it handy? I'd go through your post history, but if you have it already...

Honestly, right now, I'm most concerned about our team's happiness and mental health. Unless we're allowed to go mountain-climbing with Kagome, we've been instructed pretty strictly to keep to ourselves, and getting involved in village politics is honestly a big no-no for anyone except Mari, maybe, who'll do her own thing if she decides it's best regardless. If we get the chance to make a suggestion with her, I'd suggest cozying up to... who was it that Yoshida said was useless? Whomever that was.

e: If they really are a worthless member of the council, no harm, no foul, right? But I really got the sense that she was lying.
 
@eaglejarl Don't know if you noticed the question but I wanted to know if we got anything on Gasai's status in the village after Kouta did his derp again. Like how much shit is she in relative to before?
 
Maybe we could request a tutor to educate us on the culture in the village? It's not as quick as immersing ourselves in the culture by freely mingling, but hopefully it won't cause any more social faux pas. Ideally, we could get two or more tutors by playing Yoshida, Gasai, and Takahashi off against each other to ensure that our education hasn't been purposely altered in some way to serve any of their own ends. Hell, the more people we can convince to come by our base and socialize the better.

Personally, I want to turn this village into a staunch base of support and later on have its members be our fully fledged allies. To do so, we will have to learn their customs and show them the respect we would give to any of our teammates. The more we put off learning about them for the sake of our own team the more the xenophobic isolationists will sway public opinion of us that we are only interested in looking our for ourselves.

If we want to befriend the village, we actually have to try to be their friends. Friends learn which subjects in simple conversation are tolerated and which topics cause distress. We aren't antagonizing Keiko by demanding what her relationship with her biological sister is like, so why are we, through our inaction, causing similar distress to the village members?

We can still assuage our teammates feelings after the recent near-miss, but we should also try to reconcile with the villagers. A simple "Sorry we sorta kinda traumatized your kids with that training accident, if you don't mind, could you tell us how you train? We would rather not make the same mistakes as last time," would be a less than idea starting point, but we have to start somewhere. Once we have a dialogue with the normal people in the village (which I hope would not be considered meddling in politics) we can start repairing our public image and/or adding to our knowledge of how the village functions at the lowest government levels.
 
It's not the flat difference though. It's... let's see... (250/25)**0.65=31

Fuck if I remember how it translates to severety, but sure doesn't look too scary.
Umm. So I did some math

E: Lot's of bad math, nothing fun, fixed numbers in referenced post, more math inc.

E2: Assuming Kouta had 13 dice and boosted for 2 him vs Akane was

(743-483)/(12+15)**0.65=30,5 and yeah, okay, this is bad.

14 dice and 3 boost (and kinda bad-ish rolls on Kouta) give us (743-483)/(12+17)**0.65=29

12 dice and 1 boost = 32


Okay. So.
PMYF will help us quite a lot here. Throw a kunai in the vicinity of enemy (not even at them so they dodge, couple feet away works) + Kawarimi = instant by-pass of TM vs Wep check.
Gonna have to find a way to make the tag unobtrusive. Can't have people thinking these are explosive tags :\
Untill then.. yeah. 12 dice for TM so we can chakra it up with 3 more is looking more and more like a must-have.

E4: Underground Fish Projection is another way to avoid TM vs Wep roll. We have to learn that.

E3: here Akane, have all the TM!

[X] Training Akane: Filling Up On The Go
 
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I've added a link to tally to my sig, so that's a good way to find latest batch of plans.

Yeah, the social stuff in your plan (The Better Part of Valour, for others curious as to which) looks pretty good to me. Actually, the whole section under Return to Base is still pretty solid. Particularly if we could manage building an escape tunnel without the village being made aware -- and only to be used for that purpose. For anything other than getting the hell out, we should go through proper channels -- namely, Takahashi. We've fucked things up enough for ourselves already.

Sadly, I don't think Mari would approve of experimenting with explosives within earshot of the village, so that's out.

e: On rereading it a bit, I'll note that this is a good chance to give Akane an object lesson in people without breaking her.
 
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A simple "Sorry we sorta kinda traumatized your kids with that training accident, if you don't mind, could you tell us how you train? We would rather not make the same mistakes as last time," would be a less than idea starting point, but we have to start somewhere.
Careful about being too apologetic:
In the actual event, Kouta's 'clever strategem' fell apart faster than tissue paper in a rainstorm. Even his grandmother couldn't stretch far enough to suggest that Akane had actually instigated the incident. The best she could do was to let him keep his ninja status but be put on punitive duty for six months.
Trying to frame someone for attempted murder is frowned upon in their culture as much as ours, so we are, again, the wronged party here.

And, since I'm pinging @eaglejarl anyway, I might as well ask: that interaction with Hazou working to defuse the situation, did that involve any Deception/Diplomacy rolls? What were they?
 
Careful about being too apologetic:

Trying to frame someone for attempted murder is frowned upon in their culture as much as ours, so we are, again, the wronged party here.
The apology is to the kids who were hanging around near where we exploded walls at, not to Kouta.

I kind of want Akane to get high enough diplomacy to smooth over her... eccentricities with people for whom they aren't quite so endearing. I'll also note that her lack of deception is part of what got us into the mess with the assassination.

e: @eaglejarl @Velorien @AugSphere @Jackercracks

As an aside, is there any way of... theorycrafting, I guess, research for things?

That is to say, if we want to know how difficult it could be to make a type of seal, could we spend a few days/weeks researching things we could do toward that goal without accidentallying a seal with a difficulty that would be a 50/50 shot for someone with Sealing 25?
 
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I kind of want Akane to get high enough diplomacy to smooth over her... eccentricities with people for whom they aren't quite so endearing. I'll also note that her lack of deception is part of what got us into the mess with the assassination.
What got us into assassination mess was designating Akane as Kouta's handler. We knew that shit was trouble and we let the friendliest, least socially-savvy person in our team (save Kagome) interact with him most. Now we might never get that Kouta vs Hazou showdown :[ *laments*
 
What got us into assassination mess was designating Akane as Kouta's handler. We knew that shit was trouble and we let the friendliest, least socially-savvy person in our team (save Kagome) interact with him most. Now we might never get that Kouta vs Hazou showdown :[ *laments*

If he learns as little from this as I expect he will, he'll be coming after us soon enough.
 
You know, he's really quite lucky we're so forgiving. Also that we want that scroll so much. Forgiveness only goes so far, though. He pulls something else like he's been doing, he's going to get a fist through the brain.
 
Hmm, that reminds me, we need to work on our Therapy no Jutsu fighting style. I mean, Hazou can talk in combat without getting fatally distracted, why not? :whistle:
 
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