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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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faflec said:
The Spanish Inquisition.
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But we always expect The Zabuza Spanish Inquisition.

But more seriously, hmmm....

I'd love to see Ami. But it could be Ren, or one of the other competitors, or Pandaa dealing with problems in summonland, or one of the people we cheated at gambling hiring assassins.
 
Nobody ever expects the Telescope Merchant!

Neither rain nor sleet nor snow nor chakra beasts can stay this salesman from the swift completion of his duly contracted orders.
 
MMKII said:
Nobody ever expects the Telescope Merchant!

Neither rain nor sleet nor snow nor chakra beasts can stay this salesman from the swift completion of his duly contracted orders.
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I wonder if we could use telescope lenses and overpowered light producing seals to make doom lasers.*

* Yeah yeah, they wouldn't be coherent light so they technically wouldn't be lasers, but as long as they burn holes through things and set people on fire does it really matter?
 
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TaliesinSkye said:
I wonder if we could use telescope lenses and overpowered light producing seals to make doom lasers.*

* Yeah yeah, they wouldn't be coherent light so they technically wouldn't be lasers, but as long as they burn holes through things and set people on fire does it really matter?
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We could just make Sniper Macerators that fire things at an insane velocity and stick a bunch of molten lead/iron into it.
 
MMKII said:
We could just make Sniper Macerators that fire things at an insane velocity and stick a bunch of molten lead/iron into it.
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Oh god, that's like all the nastiness of a rail gun plus all the nastiness of a HEAT warhead. I like it. I'm not sure about accuracy/range though. Could you spin a liquid to keep it stable in flight, or only a solid? This calls for lots of testing. Also it'd have to go supersonic which wouldn't be very subtle, but I suppose by the time you pull out your rail gun seal you've left 'subtle' a thousand miles behind you in a ditch with a sucking chest wound.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
Also it'd have to go supersonic which wouldn't be very subtle, but I suppose by the time you pull out your rail gun seal you've left 'subtle' a thousand miles behind you in a ditch with a sucking chest wound.
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Subtle is for folks without a Seal of Righteous Heavenly Smiting.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
It makes me wonder what the limiting factor is on summoning up forces with a seal. Is it how physically big the seal is, or how complex, or how much power can be infused into it, or something else?
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In-character? *Stream of complex sealing jargon that we can't understand about the fundamental rules of reality and how if you try and tweak them too much the extra components to keep it stable get exponentially more difficult*

Out-of-character? QMs say that regular Explosives affect one zone and deal Weapons 4 damage, and if we want to change that we'll have to invent a new seal, which will be as difficult as their framework and gut instinct tells them it should be.

I have no doubt we could make a bigger explosive, just like the QMs have said we could make bigger storage seals, but I figure the QMs would make it more and more challenging each time we want to bump it up a notch.
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
In-character? *Stream of complex sealing jargon that we can't understand about the fundamental rules of reality and how if you try and tweak them too much the extra components to keep it stable get exponentially more difficult*

Out-of-character? QMs say that regular Explosives affect one zone and deal Weapons 4 damage, and if we want to change that we'll have to invent a new seal, which will be as difficult as their framework and gut instinct tells them it should be.

I have no doubt we could make a bigger explosive, just like the QMs have said we could make bigger storage seals, but I figure the QMs would make it more and more challenging each time we want to bump it up a notch.
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Hmmm.

@OliWhail @eaglejarl

Is it possible to set the timer for explosives to "Instantaneous"?
 
MMKII said:
If we want to blow ourselves up as a tactic in our matches, I would prefer that the enemy have no chance/reason to dodge.
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Oh, I see.

With ghost scales taking a standard action to re-activate, I'm not sure if it's a viable strategy or not. They'll be attacking you, presumably, which could easily lower ghost scales as fast as you can raise it.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
Oh god, that's like all the nastiness of a rail gun plus all the nastiness of a HEAT warhead. I like it. I'm not sure about accuracy/range though. Could you spin a liquid to keep it stable in flight, or only a solid? This calls for lots of testing. Also it'd have to go supersonic which wouldn't be very subtle, but I suppose by the time you pull out your rail gun seal you've left 'subtle' a thousand miles behind you in a ditch with a sucking chest wound.
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Could we get the seal itself to spin? Put it on a rotating disk, so when the bullet comes out it's already rotating?


Also, I would least suspect the 3rd Hokage, or the Liberator.
 
Sentient Tree said:
Could we get the seal itself to spin? Put it on a rotating disk, so when the bullet comes out it's already rotating?
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I'm not sure if the momentum of the seal would have any impact on what comes out of it or not. Interesting question.

Edit: There's no recoil on macerators, right? So I'm thinking the ejecta are independent of the seal's momentum, since the seal is independent of the ejecta's. I'm pretty sure we could abuse that to make things like reactionless drives if we wanted.
 
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My first thought for who'd be the last person I'd expect an interlude from is some random civilian in the middle of Vegetable or what-have-you, since I have absolutely zero reason to expect an interlude from them, but on further thought there may be people I anti-expect an interlude from, under the right situations.

Since interludes reveal new perspectives and new information about that character and the world as experienced by that character, there are two main reasons to not expect an interlude:
  1. There's no new perspective or information to give that we'd care about in any way.
  2. The QMs don't want us to have that perspective and information.
With this guideline, we can narrow down a few categories of people who one might anti-expect for an interlude. The first group is people already covered by interludes, specifically irrelevant people who we wouldn't rate likely to develop a new perspective or information worth writing another interlude about, like that meat merchant from that one Mist interlude. The second group is people so relevant to us that information about them may be unfairly metagamed to influence real-world outcomes, like Pein.

So who is it, random meat merchant or Pein himself? Only Velorien knows.
 
Inferno Vulpix said:
My first thought for who'd be the last person I'd expect an interlude from is some random civilian in the middle of Vegetable or what-have-you, since I have absolutely zero reason to expect an interlude from them, but on further thought there may be people I anti-expect an interlude from, under the right situations.

Since interludes reveal new perspectives and new information about that character and the world as experienced by that character, there are two main reasons to not expect an interlude:
  1. There's no new perspective or information to give that we'd care about in any way.
  2. The QMs don't want us to have that perspective and information.
With this guideline, we can narrow down a few categories of people who one might anti-expect for an interlude. The first group is people already covered by interludes, specifically irrelevant people who we wouldn't rate likely to develop a new perspective or information worth writing another interlude about, like that meat merchant from that one Mist interlude. The second group is people so relevant to us that information about them may be unfairly metagamed to influence real-world outcomes, like Pein.

So who is it, random meat merchant or Pein himself? Only Velorien knows.
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@Dictator4Hire Someone mentioned meat.
 
MMKII said:
Hmmm.

@OliWhail @eaglejarl

Is it possible to set the timer for explosives to "Instantaneous"?
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Pretty much. The timers can be short enough that you can set them, throw them, and they go off as they hit. Honestly, it's improbable how precise these timers are and how good ninja are at using them, but we're not worrying about it. Chakra is awesome, or something.

Inferno Vulpix said:
specifically irrelevant people who we wouldn't rate likely to develop a new perspective or information worth writing another interlude about, like that meat merchant from that one Mist interlude.
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CMFA!!!
 
eaglejarl said:
Pretty much. The timers can be short enough that you can set them, throw them, and they go off as they hit. Honestly, it's improbable how precise these timers are and how good ninja are at using them, but we're not worrying about it. Chakra is awesome, or something.
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So we're seriously considering some variation of "Palm a Weapon:4 Explosives tag thats set to Instant/Nigh-Instantaneous detonation. Activate and drop through Ghost Scales aura to inflict undodgeable massive damage to everyone nearby." as an opener for either the Hotsprings Kid or vs Keiko.

What say you on this mechanically and what does Hazou think of the feasibility of this idea, given that he studied under the master of explosives for ~2 years? Not something thats going to accidentally blow his fingers off or something equally horrible?
 
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