Jackercracks
In a British accent
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- England
Good use of Yakuza tactics, a solid 5/7.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- Atlanta
We know that Kouta's a bully. The most likely explanation to me is that he's a bully because he's better than most of the villagers at taijutsu. So I'm not ready to update my estimation of the power level of the village based on the assumption that he's around the middle of the pack.
I do think it more likely that the tapirs are just animals. Their reaction to the first round of the spar was what you expect from smart animals that have been trained to defend the villagers, not sapient beingsvtaht know what a spar is. They could be faking, but if they are, we've been losing our deception rolls so badly we don't even know we're making them.
For the conversation with Yoshida, I expect that we're about to learn the political fault lines of the village, and that at least one side wants something from us. I say keep moving forward with the plan. Do our best to exploit said fault lines to turn the village into an asset.
I agree with everyone who doesn't want Hazou installed as senior ninja and tied to the village. There's no guarantee that an outsider running things is even an option outside of full military conquest. But helping one faction inside the village could give us people in charge who are more inclined towards us and our goals, and also those same people owing us and maybe dependant on our strength on an ongoing basis. We need to be careful, though. It appears that Yoshida is a better politician than we are.
Also, I don't want to bring up the summoning scroll right now. There's too high a chance that it's the one thing that can unite everyone in the village against us. Let's wait until we've learned more about what's going on.
I do think it more likely that the tapirs are just animals. Their reaction to the first round of the spar was what you expect from smart animals that have been trained to defend the villagers, not sapient beingsvtaht know what a spar is. They could be faking, but if they are, we've been losing our deception rolls so badly we don't even know we're making them.
For the conversation with Yoshida, I expect that we're about to learn the political fault lines of the village, and that at least one side wants something from us. I say keep moving forward with the plan. Do our best to exploit said fault lines to turn the village into an asset.
I agree with everyone who doesn't want Hazou installed as senior ninja and tied to the village. There's no guarantee that an outsider running things is even an option outside of full military conquest. But helping one faction inside the village could give us people in charge who are more inclined towards us and our goals, and also those same people owing us and maybe dependant on our strength on an ongoing basis. We need to be careful, though. It appears that Yoshida is a better politician than we are.
Also, I don't want to bring up the summoning scroll right now. There's too high a chance that it's the one thing that can unite everyone in the village against us. Let's wait until we've learned more about what's going on.
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lol
Damn, that's pretty neat.
Am I the only one that could feel the danger here?
So hard to make that kind of statement come out like that, but Kagome is nailing his Heisenberg impression.
...Beyond the fact that this would almost certainly require a whopper of a deception roll, (summary execution would usually be applied to the foreign ninja in most villages), I find it dubious they'd give a damn how things are done in other villages. Why should they? It's not like they make a habit of accomodating the needs of missing-nin. Remember that most missing-nin are not the Akatsuki, they're pretty much vermin as far as most ninja villages are concerned.
RedV
Refuelling
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We are their only source of consistent healing, as well as being considerably powerful.
Unfortunately, said healing dissappears when Noburi leaves, and keeping Noburi around means keeping a ninja with no loyalty to the village around. And unfortunately, this makes two ninja of the village we've held hostage for their injuries. Healing from the people who injured you in the first place ain't so grand.
As for us being powerful... Well, let's face it, we're certainly powerful but the recent confrontation has indicated there's more than one factor at play there. Any dreams of soloing the entire village in any manner but seal-sabotage have pretty much just proved unrealistic.
You're right, of course, that we could still prove enough of a threat to devastate the village and slaughter many innocent civilian families with ninja relations. But if these people were the type to bow to pressure along those lines they probably wouldn't have established a village in the middle of nowhere where they could be their own bosses.
I don't think the likely issues with the village really change our tactics THAT much, I just think if we are going to try to steal the scroll playing nice beforehand will give them less warning than if we're issuing threats and demands. Let them think they have us cowed and we'll play along with their little oligarchy, then pull the rug out.
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RedV
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That said, the fact that they do not have med nin and are not as strong as the Hidden Villages can be played up as the others doing something right and causing feelings of envy in the people.
And about them establishing a village in the middle of nowhere to rule themselves- the fact that this Village has not become widespread or has taken more missions, which we would know of because it would get there powerful shinobi identified, means that:
And about them establishing a village in the middle of nowhere to rule themselves- the fact that this Village has not become widespread or has taken more missions, which we would know of because it would get there powerful shinobi identified, means that:
- They may not have enough powerful ninja.
- That they are a community focused on survival and isolationism solely. This is likely due to the founder(s) being chuunin level or thereabouts when they began, perhaps the remnants of a doomed mission or something. It doesn't mean they consciously chose to leave a Hidden Village, or that they even belonged to a Hidden Village at all, given that stuff like Jiraiya training the Rain Orphans is a thing. It could be that this legendary ninja with the summon contract, retreating from the world as hos life ended, found and trained some peasants in Ninjutsu. This also neatly accounts for sealing techs of only one type being found here, as well as the lack of stuff like Medical Ninjutsu- if he didn't know it he couldn't teach it.
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- Brazil
This is all kinds of awesome. Where can I get more?Just leaving this here...
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Also the fact that they have seal masters means they likely have many tricks up their sleeves. I do not want to try and fight seal masters on their own ground that they have had generations to prepare.
Mari has damn good deception. She could pull it off.
They don't need to care how things work in other villages. They need to see Mari as incredibly reasonable instead of incredibly violent.
My suggestion achieves that.
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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Mari could convince them that's how things would be in Mist (which isn't necessarily wrong).
At a guess, the second model is limited. You would need an incredibly complex seal to use as a baseline if you don't want to get stuck behind other seal masters. Like, can you imagine attempting this model when the most you have access to is variations on explosive seals?
Luckily for the mountain people, they have a summoning seal is very complex...
Given my headcanon for the more animalistic clans, he's probably Summon-blooded or something.
Nah, we don't need to steal the scroll. Since their sealing styles are built around a specific summoning seal, Kagome is liable to figure out how to recreate it given enough time.
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@eaglejarl What is the standard policy in Mist for what the Arrogant Snot did?
It's probably going to be pretty bad, whatever it is.
I can't see any kind of military force just letting you off with a warning for trying to murder your sparring partner.
I can't see any kind of military force just letting you off with a warning for trying to murder your sparring partner.
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It depends on what you consider a comparable situation.
Let's assume you have witnesses that confirm that the incident was attempted murder rather than a training accident (as you do in this case).
If this had been an ordinary training match in Mist, then what you'd have is attempted murder of a loyal Mist ninja. That would mean a nice long trip to T&I to check whether you're a traitor or an enemy infiltrator, followed by a court martial if you were still alive and found to be neither.
If you're a Mist ninja and you were sparring with a visiting ninja, then you'll have attempted to murder an allied ninja, which is not quite as bad, but you'll also have tried to cause a serious diplomatic incident, which is a lot worse. The consequences would be proportionally more horrible for you.
Mist has a zero tolerance policy for traitors, and anyone who deliberately harms a loyal Mist ninja or deliberately attempts to harm Mist's diplomatic position is a traitor (whatever their motivations).
Jackercracks
In a British accent
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- England
Yagura really hates traitors.
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- Yes.
Yeah, let's use the fuck out of this.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Jackercracks Does/did Akane say anything about this kind of situation in Fire?
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Jackercracks Does/did Akane say anything about this kind of situation in Fire?
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Three pages later I still want to believe that Nobby calling Akane by last name was a writing mistake. Way too odd for him to forget the fake name like this :/
Great update otherwise, I want to wax poetic but typing is hard rn.
Add me to the camp "tapirs are trained animals not summons" and I'd rather we not talk to them any more, don't want to look odder to villagers.
Snot being good at taijutsu makes sense, it's hard to be a bully when you're not stronger than most ppl around. Mid teen is 16 in strictest sense so a 16 y.o. boy who works out for strength has chakra and a modicum of talent could be quite scary.
E: Iron nerve is totes the best bloodline!
Great update otherwise, I want to wax poetic but typing is hard rn.
Add me to the camp "tapirs are trained animals not summons" and I'd rather we not talk to them any more, don't want to look odder to villagers.
Snot being good at taijutsu makes sense, it's hard to be a bully when you're not stronger than most ppl around. Mid teen is 16 in strictest sense so a 16 y.o. boy who works out for strength has chakra and a modicum of talent could be quite scary.
E: Iron nerve is totes the best bloodline!
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Jackercracks
In a British accent
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- England
Nothing specific, but you understand they can afford to be more lenient since they have ridiculous numbers of sensory abilities to give more information and thus have an easier time determining guilt, innocence and intention.
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No, it didn't:
Emphasis added.
Yup. He was pretty rattled; the damage is actually worse than he was willing to imply in front of the village woman, although not actually life-threatening. I forgot to post this fact in the afterword, but I'll go back and put it in.
Too late. :>
No. I don't mess with people in ways that cannot be differentiated from humor.
Thank you. He's tremendously fun to write.
That is really good. Thank you for posting it.
Jackercracks
In a British accent
- Location
- England
Mari says: Most of them are probably medium-genin level, that kid was probably stronger than average judging from how people reacted when he brought out all the stops. Some people though, there are definitely at least a few people stronger than him in this village. They might be keeping the strongest people watching us and only have a few, or they might have more.
Their style... if that kid and the people I fought are any indication then it's not the best style of fighting. There's wasted movement, and some of the moves are exaggerated to look good. That's a bad idea, it wastes time that could be spent killing people better. They all used pretty much the same style, minor personal differences, but clearly all from a common pattern. Only one of them tried to make distance, and none of them used handseals. It's weird, you'd expect a couple a ninjutsu specialists in a group that size.
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Christ. I'm not super convinced that this was the best move on Noburi's part. Downplaying her injuries means we might have less diplomatic credit. Kouta was so close to killing her even with Inoue stopping him.
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We have an official position on sealless technique use.
Sealless techniques are extremely rare. The Substitution Technique is one. Zephyr's Reach is another because it was explicitly designed with escaping imprisonment in mind (and because we don't want to penalise you for the 8 levels of XP you've already spent). Any others you find are likely going to be on the level of individual jōnin's signature techniques in terms of rarity and how easy they are to obtain for yourselves.
Sealless techniques are extremely rare. The Substitution Technique is one. Zephyr's Reach is another because it was explicitly designed with escaping imprisonment in mind (and because we don't want to penalise you for the 8 levels of XP you've already spent). Any others you find are likely going to be on the level of individual jōnin's signature techniques in terms of rarity and how easy they are to obtain for yourselves.
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Shit. This includes Transformation then?