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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Kiba said:
Leaf is turning around to mass-adopt skywalkers. Imagine adopting sensory suite.

It's logistically untenable in a world where you only have ~30 sealmasters each major hidden village.

Solve the logistics problem, then sensory suit becomes viable, plus a whole bunch of other seals.
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Printing press explosive seals, if realized, would free up a lot of sealmaster manpower to make larger quantities of other seals. It's also possible we'd just see more LBF and Air Domes and the like, but it makes the sensory suite more feasible.
 
Kiba said:
Leaf is turning around to mass-adopt skywalkers. Imagine adopting sensory suite.

It's logistically untenable in a world where you only have ~30 sealmasters each major hidden village.

Solve the logistics problem, then sensory suit becomes viable, plus a whole bunch of other seals.
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Easy take over the Kurosawa clan
 
Roomba said:
If that problem is solved, then it's probably worthwhile to realize this project before the tournament.
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I'd argue they were worth it for the tournament even if that problem isn't solved. Think about it: Fights in general last at most thirty seconds. It'd require replacing them between fights, but I bet Hazou could manage to build enough of a stockpile to do that.
 
Roomba said:
Having only encountered your idea today, the only potential problem I can see with it is longevity. The casino seals likely aren't optimized for intensive use - you don't expect one to trigger more than a few times per day. Your design, on the other hand, needs them to vibrate near-constantly. If they need to be replaced often, then that makes mass adoption impossible, and optimizing them for longevity may not be easy, and may require sacrifices elsewhere.

If that problem is solved, then it's probably worthwhile to realize this project before the tournament.
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Roomba said:
Having only encountered your idea today, the only potential problem I can see with it is longevity. The casino seals likely aren't optimized for intensive use - you don't expect one to trigger more than a few times per day. Your design, on the other hand, needs them to vibrate near-constantly. If they need to be replaced often, then that makes mass adoption impossible, and optimizing them for longevity may not be easy, and may require sacrifices elsewhere.

If that problem is solved, then it's probably worthwhile to realize this project before the tournament.
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Yeah, my suspicion is that the casino seals are long lived since people do use them as a security measure. Though the seals for the suit wouldn't have to move nearly as fast or be as loud, which should help a lot. At the very least it is still useful for us.

The biggest thing that we should do, when we're back in leaf, is make a rechargable seal. A light or something simple where you can repeatedly refresh it with a bit of chakra should make it much easier to make seals that ninja can top up as needed.
 
Jello_Raptor said:
Yeah, my suspicion is that the casino seals are long lived since people do use them as a security measure. Though the seals for the suit wouldn't have to move nearly as fast or be as loud, which should help a lot. At the very least it is still useful for us.

The biggest thing that we should do, when we're back in leaf, is make a rechargable seal. A light or something simple where you can repeatedly refresh it with a bit of chakra should make it much easier to make seals that ninja can top up as needed.
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It'd be better if we changed the Casino Seals to produce a mild amount of heat instead of light or sound, so that we were the only ones to know.
 
So does anyone have any particular ideas on finding our counterpart? It's kinda...late, but we need to try something soon.
 
faflec said:
So does anyone have any particular ideas on finding our counterpart? It's kinda...late, but we need to try something soon.
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Other suggestion: Ask the other members of Team Uplift what the from-Mist members of the party are, and gradually cycle through them, dropping little hints.
 
Thats true.

We should try that first.

I think that something similar to the mass poster spread might work if we do it in the last hour or two.


Gambit: Fucking Sneaky Ninja Blackmail

  • We only pick a dozen or so people that we have complete information on (nonleaf of course, but try to make the spread pretty random, no 12x Rock nin or something like that)
  • We put all their shit on posters. Individualized of course. Make many copies. But we dont spread them. Just keep a handful on hand. Keiko, Nobs and us do the following:
  • Go up to this individual clandestinely and away from servants and demand they give us all their info, or we will release the posters to everyone.
  • Explain the following sequence of events:
    • If any is found to be incorrect after comparing with other sources, we will give the signal to have the posters spread everywhere.
      • They are not the only person whos info we will leak, so this info dump will appear verifiably true to any observers with access to a couple of the identities leaked.
      • It will then be in their best interests to release all the information they have on everyone to make up for the relative point difference due to many people now likely knowing their true identity.
        • If they can even do so, in the time remaining.
        • They could try to stealth DQ as many people as possible in the last hour to make up for the points. Good luck with that, fucker.
      • Thus it is optimal for them that they quietly hand us all their actual information now so as to avoid the above shitshow.
We should have three people of the dozen or so that we do this with at first:

If no one plays ball, release the info.

If they do play ball, cross examine the information with any info we have, any other info we get, and any info that Shikamaru may have.

If its false, release the info.


Now that it is crystal clear that we mean fucking business, we move on to the next targets.

They will surely be more inclined to believe us.


I don't think we actually have to release all that much info with this so it doesn't seem ridiculous.


At best, we get many more identities. At worst, we have just caused an extreme amount of chaos in the last hour or so by virtue of royally fucking some people over to the extent that they will be trying to table flip.
 
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Jello_Raptor said:
Yeah, my suspicion is that the casino seals are long lived since people do use them as a security measure. Though the seals for the suit wouldn't have to move nearly as fast or be as loud, which should help a lot. At the very least it is still useful for us.

The biggest thing that we should do, when we're back in leaf, is make a rechargable seal. A light or something simple where you can repeatedly refresh it with a bit of chakra should make it much easier to make seals that ninja can top up as needed.
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That's probably because there's usually no ninja at the casino to activate it.

Also I am pretty sure that a rechargeable seal of any kind is something that people have been trying forever.
 
Kiba said:
Also I am pretty sure that a rechargeable seal of any kind is something that people have been trying forever.
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"Rechargable" as in "any ninja can put chakra into it to make it last longer" is probably really difficult.

Reusable, on the other hand, sounds very doable. The rules doc does say the following:
An exhausted seal is a seal that has been used up and is no longer functional. You cannot re-infuse an exhausted seal.
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But I don't see why this would need to be absolute. Presumably, chakra ink leaves the design on the blank with residual chakra that helps guide the infusion process, and this is gone in the exhausted seal.

However, maybe it's possible to infuse the dried ink on a blank directly? If not possible with the ink we have available, we can try to test various substances for this kind of chakra conductivity. Wouldn't be implausible if no one did this kind of thorough testing before, especially if accepted sealing theory asserts that it cannot be done.
 
EJ: You kept asking, so here it is. Interlude: The Battle of the Gods!

RADVIC: That isn't how x works.

EJ: awhu--?

RADVIC: Yeah, Hiruzen should still be alive. And also, Akatsuki should have all been killed by y because maths.

EJ: (crying) Oh. I see.
 
MadScientist said:
EJ: You kept asking, so here it is. Interlude: The Battle of the Gods!

RADVIC: That isn't how x works.

EJ: awhu--?

RADVIC: Yeah, Hiruzen should still be alive. And also, Akatsuki should have all been killed by y because maths.

EJ: (crying) Oh. I see.
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I'm pretty sure that's why they didn't give us too many details on that fight :V
 
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