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J-man doesn't have to, just reread what Hazou said: "I wanna mess around with Force Walls..."
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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So here's a question @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Can we ask Jiraiya after variants of seals? For instance, a non-sharp variant of Force Wall would be more ideal as a base for an absolute defense technique.
e: This is a "can" question as in like, is it super spoon heavy on you guys to do so, for reference.
e: This is a "can" question as in like, is it super spoon heavy on you guys to do so, for reference.
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail
Just for reference, I've been avoiding suggesting seals that attack via chemical mechanisms (poisons/acids/bases/flammables/etc) because I was worried that having molecular products that are partially chakra-construct would lead to horrible ion clouds when the chakra-constructs dissipate. But I never actually checked that that's how you would play things. So what has Hazou been taught on the matter? Any horror stories about why you don't make acid-spray seals?
Just for reference, I've been avoiding suggesting seals that attack via chemical mechanisms (poisons/acids/bases/flammables/etc) because I was worried that having molecular products that are partially chakra-construct would lead to horrible ion clouds when the chakra-constructs dissipate. But I never actually checked that that's how you would play things. So what has Hazou been taught on the matter? Any horror stories about why you don't make acid-spray seals?
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something something Arikada something something bioseal acid worms
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
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But only if the bijuu joins the hive mind since he literally lives inside Hazo. He'd be a real character on forums and all he would do is shit post and vote for the dumbest plans.
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Do we know of any seals that actually create chakra-construct matter?
I'd also like to point out that your observation isn't specific to seals. A technique that creates chakra-construct acid would run into the exact same problem.
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Earth Domes?
Goo Bombs create chakra-contruct adhesive.
E: actually, it would also be useful to have Lubricant Bombs. There's a reason that every good Wizard learns Grease. Adding that to the tech tree.
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Why would we need to put out fires?
Emstar
The Shining One
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We can optimize it to work defensively.
Why wouldn't you want to lolnope some uchiha nerd with hax who thinks he's all that
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So that when our explosives inevitably get away from us we have some way to not die instantly.
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I haven't spoke to @Velorien about this, but if I were in his shoes, what I would do is:
"Noburi has no idea. He's never heard of anyone breathing booze. Seems like it might work, so he'll take his best guess on concentrations, but it's purely a guess. Oh, look, it had no appreciable effect. Wonder if it was just that the concentration was too low or what? Well, have to experiment if we want to use this again in the future."
Saying it another way: Everyone in this thread (very specifically including me!) has had full access to the internet and modern medical journals and all of us said "Yeah, sure, seems plausible." If we thought it was feasible and turned out to be wrong, why wouldn't the kids?
It's long-established that you can still get poisoned, drunk, etc if you're henged. Why/how? Because chakra, that's why.
I'm not sure. I'll talk to the others about it and get back to you.
What are you looking for? Is that "Hey, Jiraiya, do you have such a thing already?" or is it "Hey, Jiraiya, does this seem like a feasible thing for us to work on?"
The one time it came up was back in chapter 67. Hazō has been focused on other things since then.
By the way, this is an older item but I wasn't sure if it ever got confirmed and wanted to make sure it was nailed down:
@Velorien and I both signed off on @OliWhail's response.
You mean this?
I took that as "don't try to replicate sealing failures" more than "don't try to create acid". Was it intended as the latter?
I took that as "don't try to replicate sealing failures" more than "don't try to create acid". Was it intended as the latter?
*glances at my requests for strobe-lights/flashbangs*
We don't have visual-based sensory-weapons yet.
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The former, not the latter. But, that was the only time that creating (toxic chemicals / acid) has come up in Hazō's training.
We have ways to disable eyesights such as pepper spray.
Threnodist
occupying Haudenosaunee & Osage land she/her/hers
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I don't thibk
But that's different from an attack that works THROUGH people's eyesight rather than just affecting it
I would argue that strobes are harder to avoid than pepper bombs. Hazou-holding-a-strobe is horribly painful to look at, so you basically can't aim at him.
How it works matters less than its effect.
Prepper spray. Dude's sight is disabled.
Flashbang. Dude's sight and hearing is disabled.
Strobe also disable Hazō's sight.
Hazou is holding it in his hand, pointed away from him. Whatever flashing light is reflected off the ground will be nowhere near as bad as having the strobe pointed at you.
Threnodist
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Yes it does. 1/5th (at least) of the ninjas were gonna face are going to have access to Wind Jutsu, which will be able to counter pepper spray (and maybe even use it to counter-attack us with the jutsu+pepper spray) a strobe can't be blocked by wind jutsu