The most obvious danger I see right now is pissing off the yakuza by helping Granny Karina with the drug trade. Might be a good idea to prepare a apology gift for the Oyabun for this.
 
As per the previous chapter, you didn't have the opportunity to pursue any bandana plans because you lacked a means of contacting Team Asuma until it was too late in the day.

Well what did the team actually get accomplished during the day? By my count we had from sometime in mid-morning to late afternoon/evening when the teams reassembled. That's probably seven hours or so.

We rented a palaquin, reserved some rooms, got extra money from the pangolins, and slipped the yakuza some explosive seals; call that three or so hours.

Did we:

1. Get a chance to interview some merchants and find out what if anything they know about how the Event is supposed to work, what instructions they have been given, and so on?

2. Bribe some people at various boarding houses to inform on bandana-wearing guests?

The most obvious danger I see right now is pissing off the yakuza by helping Granny Karina with the drug trade. Might be a good idea to prepare a apology gift for the Oyabun for this.

I feel like the QMs are presenting this as a thing, but I honestly don't get it. The Yakuza are fully aware that this is all a game that the village ninjas are playing and that's it's not a "real" drug trader. Why in the world would they get pissed off or want to get involved? Are they somehow obligated to play along and treat Granny Karina as though she was a real person rather than a fake for purposes of the Exam?
 
  • (From section '2. Go Back to Leaf Barracks') Talk with Ino/Shika/Chō re taking out the Lightning team. Most of the rest of this section has been invalidated by scheduling, although they could still try to mess with the bandanas if everyone thought that was a good idea.

We did apparently have the chance to talk with them about it...? I think, anyway.
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If you need a new one, I have some people I could put you in contact with
I could get a prosthetic if I wanted to, it's just too much effort to deal with taking on and off every time I get up, and I don't go out enough to get practice with.
 
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OK that is interesting. The client is keeping Keiko away. I'm starting to wonder if Ami (or someone with the same mindset) is trying to push her away from the client to avoid any mindscrews via Mori Clan. Or it could be because they think Keiko won't be able to do anything on her own and gets fucked by assassins, either/or.
 
OK that is interesting. The client is keeping Keiko away. I'm starting to wonder if Ami (or someone with the same mindset) is trying to push her away from the client to avoid any mindscrews via Mori Clan. Or it could be because they think Keiko won't be able to do anything on her own and gets fucked by assassins, either/or.

Or she's playing her part as a pervy old lady who wants to get the strapping young muscular lads in private the whole night and keep the female member of the team off somewhere else.
 
Or she's playing her part as a pervy old lady who wants to get the strapping young muscular lads in private the whole night and keep the female member of the team off somewhere else.
True, but the persona itself is the proctor's choice, and I don't think the proctor would have chosen civilian!Arikada without reason.
 
*puts on Mari hat*

*cracks knuckles*

Show time, people! Our lead actor, one "Gouketsu Hazou" is playing the role of a shy chunin candidate who is struggling against his taboo desires for disgusting old hags. The villain of our story, played by our proctor, has stolen the protagonist's heart, and our hero must confront his feelings and win a kiss from the villain without revealing his inner struggle to his teammates-who-would-never-understand.

Lights! Sharingan! Action!



The purpose of this is three-fold:
  1. Focuses the entirety of the proctor's nonsense onto Hazou, taking some pressure off of Kei and Noburi.
  2. Makes the proctor grade us highly on "did the character of the merchant get a positive impression of the candidates?"
  3. Puts the proctor on the back foot in regards to the mind games. No one expects us to turn around something like "literally-a-witch is perving on you".
 
*puts on Mari hat*

*cracks knuckles*

Show time, people! Our lead actor, one "Gouketsu Hazou" is playing the role of a shy chunin candidate who is struggling against his taboo desires for disgusting old hags. The villain of our story, played by our proctor, has stolen the protagonist's heart, and our hero must confront his feelings and win a kiss from the villain without revealing his inner struggle to his teammates-who-would-never-understand.

Lights! Sharingan! Action!



The purpose of this is three-fold:
  1. Focuses the entirety of the proctor's nonsense onto Hazou, taking some pressure off of Kei and Noburi.
  2. Makes the proctor grade us highly on "did the character of the merchant get a positive impression of the candidates?"
  3. Puts the proctor on the back foot in regards to the mind games. No one expects us to turn around something like "literally-a-witch is perving on you".

I'm... not confident Hazou has enough Deceit for this.
 
I'm... not confident Hazou has enough Deceit for this.

He would only need to beat the proctor's score, not some arbitrary "TN for pulling off something that audacious". He's tricked proctors before. Most aren't social specs. This one might be, but it's equally likely that the proctors have just been brainstorming ways to mess with us for months, and she knows we're not allowed to call her out on her bullshit.
 
So, the yakuza must have a zero tolerance policy. They are very much not allowed to bring narcotics into the city. Are they allowed to export narcotics?
 
Is there a correct place for posting random seal ideas?

Yes. Here. :p



Side note: EJ has liked both of my "Action Plan: 'Seduce' the proctor" posts. Implying either that it's a terrible idea and he wants to write the catastrophic failure, or it's a hilarious idea and he wants to write the proctor's panicked internal monologue as we flip everything around on them. The two are not mutually exclusive.
 
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Is there a correct place for posting random seal ideas?
Well, not here here, since this is my (or, in the case of the above quote, MadScientist's) post and you aren't allowed to edit it (I hope, although maybe you're a mod or have chops (although if so I would expect your avatar to indicate that which it doesn't, so presumably you aren't (although I suppose it could be a personable-because-not-mod alt (one thing I really like about SV over SB is that the mods here aren't raging fu... er, aren't as strict and arbitrary as they are over there, but I can imagine a mod wanting an "off duty" persona and it would be an entirely reasonable reason to have an alt so I suppose it's possible...hm, I'm a bit lost in the weeds, now where was I? Oh, right)))), but here in the thread.


Checking. Answer probably not forthcoming until tomorrow since I think @Velorien has gone to bed.
 
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Is there a correct place for posting random seal ideas?
Bonus points for seals that don't immediately break the setting. Not because they're not allowed -- but because they're likely to be quite difficult to make, given everyone else wants to break the setting too, so they can't be low hanging fruit (unless they're not-obvious uses of existing seals, like Skywalkers are)
 
Is there a correct place for posting random seal ideas?

As everyone else said, this thread is the correct place for basically anything quest relevant.

That said, for seal ideas, ask yourself the question: "Has anyone else developed this seal, and if nobody has, why not?". If you want a seal you think already exists in the world, it's just a question of figuring out the difficulty of researching it (or, we can perhaps just find it in one of Konoha's seal libraries). If it doesn't exist, then it's either really difficult (or impossible) to create, doesn't seem immediately useful to a sealmaster, or the effect is so esoteric that nobody even thought of it.

I'm pointing this out, because proposing, say, a seal that slows time or some other ridiculously bullshit effect won't get you much more than snarky QM comments about Kagome checking your ears for Lupchanz.
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail How did this conversation go?

That said, Shino will have a very easy time disqualifying candidates regardless of having spiked the bandanas with his pheremones or not.
You discussed it with them, but none of you have any particular way of tracking down the Lightning team (or any other team, for that matter). ISC is willing to cooperate in eliminating the Lightning team if you can find them.
 

Excellent, I wasn't sure if I should post these here or on the wiki.

(flips through hand seals)

1000 (7.5) bad ideas no Jutsu!

Industrial seals: I have an idea on how to get the merchant council on board with this. Rather than sell or use the seals ourselves, we sell/lease them to the merchant council. The merchant council then gets to decide which merchants get to use them, and for how much. This gives the merchant council even more power than they already have, because now every merchant has an extra incentive be on their good side.

anyway, onto the actual seals.

Glass. Pour in sand, and it slowly extrudes at a high temperature in a given form factor. This should result in glass. The seal only works if seals can add heat to stored objects, which seems to be within their capabilities. Should be suspended from a ceiling to prevent the extruded shape from falling over.

Smelter. Dump in ore, only emit metal. Might require a redox agent, I know very little about smelting. Requires the ability to selectively release items from the seal, which might be impossible.

Fiber spinning seal. Dump in fibers, get out thread or yarn. Requires the ability to emit object with angular momentum, or manipulate them while stored. Alternatively, you could spin the seal itself.

Loom. Same concept, but you put in thread instead of fiber, and get out clothing.

pipe laying seal. Given that an earth wall seal is possible, a seal that spits out pipe sections with a few options such as long short, left, right, and straight, should be possible. Maybe using something more flexible than granite, to stop really long pipes from cracking.

Combat seals:

Something to dramatically increase the surface tension of water, which was stored within the seal before activation. So that instead of flowing away it sticks in one huge droplet. This allows us to place water on the battlefield and have it stay there. It is both an obstacle and a point that Noburi can attack from. The increased tension should fade over time, otherwise it will probably kill whatever tries to drink it.

Alternate version of above: water dome. It works almost like air dome, but it affects water instead of air. So release a bunch of water via storage seal, and then lock it in place. Hopefully we can lock it slightly less firmly than air dome, so that Noburi can still manipulate it, or at least manipulate through it. Obviously, this can only be used against people we know don't have a water element.

Invisible mist seal: alter the refractive index of water so that it is the same or nearly the same as the refractive index of air. Staple to a misterator.
 
You discussed it with them, but none of you have any particular way of tracking down the Lightning team (or any other team, for that matter). ISC is willing to cooperate in eliminating the Lightning team if you can find them.
I was actually asking about marking the bandanas before the tournament and just having Shino assassinate all of the clients except the leaf teams, but that's good to know too. :p
Requires the ability to selectively release items from the seal, which might be impossible.
It is definitively not, though it seems to be something that was unexpected from Kagome -- it's something Jiraiya talked up to him, IIRC.
 
Industrial seals: I have an idea on how to get the merchant council on board with this. Rather than sell or use the seals ourselves, we sell/lease them to the merchant council. The merchant council then gets to decide which merchants get to use them, and for how much. This gives the merchant council even more power than they already have, because now every merchant has an extra incentive be on their good side.

anyway, onto the actual seals.

Glass. Pour in sand, and it slowly extrudes at a high temperature in a given form factor. This should result in glass. The seal only works if seals can add heat to stored objects, which seems to be within their capabilities. Should be suspended from a ceiling to prevent the extruded shape from falling over.

Smelter. Dump in ore, only emit metal. Might require a redox agent, I know very little about smelting. Requires the ability to selectively release items from the seal, which might be impossible.

Fiber spinning seal. Dump in fibers, get out thread or yarn. Requires the ability to emit object with angular momentum, or manipulate them while stored. Alternatively, you could spin the seal itself.

Loom. Same concept, but you put in thread instead of fiber, and get out clothing.

pipe laying seal. Given that an earth wall seal is possible, a seal that spits out pipe sections with a few options such as long short, left, right, and straight, should be possible. Maybe using something more flexible than granite, to stop really long pipes from cracking.

As I understand it, the basic limitation of a storage seal is that it can only store "an object" and not a lot of objects. But if you put a bunch of stuff in a chest then the chest + contents is one object, which can be stored. Basically, the item to be stored must have hard boundaries which the seal is easily able to discern.

You may want to think through all of these industrial seals (which are presumably branching off storage seals) with that limitation in mind. A lot of what you're talking about is dumping in many objects and getting out one.

Combat seals:

Something to dramatically increase the surface tension of water, which was stored within the seal before activation. So that instead of flowing away it sticks in one huge droplet. This allows us to place water on the battlefield and have it stay there. It is both an obstacle and a point that Noburi can attack from. The increased tension should fade over time, otherwise it will probably kill whatever tries to drink it.

Not sure how this would work... it seems to require the seal to continue having an effect after the seal ceases to exist.

Alternate version of above: water dome. It works almost like air dome, but it affects water instead of air. So release a bunch of water via storage seal, and then lock it in place. Hopefully we can lock it slightly less firmly than air dome, so that Noburi can still manipulate it, or at least manipulate through it. Obviously, this can only be used against people we know don't have a water element.

Probably doable, but is it worth the time and effort?

Invisible mist seal: alter the refractive index of water so that it is the same or nearly the same as the refractive index of air. Staple to a misterator.

Hmm, there is some precedent with the banshee killers controlling the wavelength of sound in a certain area around the active seal. It might be possible to apply the same thing to light, but I don't think that would alter the water itself.
 
As I understand it, the basic limitation of a storage seal is that it can only store "an object" and not a lot of objects. But if you put a bunch of stuff in a chest then the chest + contents is one object, which can be stored. Basically, the item to be stored must have hard boundaries which the seal is easily able to discern.

You may want to think through all of these industrial seals (which are presumably branching off storage seals) with that limitation in mind. A lot of what you're talking about is dumping in many objects and getting out one.

I think a far bigger problem here is that all of these seals transform their contents in non-trivial way. Our current storage seals keep their contents in timeless stasis, and changing this would likely be a major undertaking. Alternatively, the seal would need to apply the transformation while the material is ingested, which seems really difficult to do for any kind of complex process. And at that point, it doesn't need to be a storage seal at all.
 
I think a far bigger problem here is that all of these seals transform their contents in non-trivial way. Our current storage seals keep their contents in timeless stasis, and changing this would likely be a major undertaking. Alternatively, the seal would need to apply the transformation while the material is ingested, which seems really difficult to do for any kind of complex process. And at that point, it doesn't need to be a storage seal at all.
Eh, I dunno about that. Storage seals by their nature effect change on their contents; they strain them. Macerators amp up the strain and apply kinetic force onto them upon their ejection.
 
And at that point, it doesn't need to be a storage seal at all.

You are probably correct. I was focused on the storage seal in order to have a clearly defined boundary on what the seal does and does not affect. Anything altering the physical properties of water within a radius would just kill everything in range, including whoever activated it.
 
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