With the implication that the second is the more terrifying option.

I s2g, this thread :V

Hey, not all of us. I, for one, am very excited for this wonderful new opportunity we've been given. Thanks @Velorien!

Yeah, I'd like to put some thought into that and a stronger "if things go wrong" module over the next couple of days.

I think what this update is also telling us is that we should create a protocol for interacting with our former clans. I thought we could wait with this until the exam slowed down a bit, but apparently not. The QMs are gifting us a great opportunity here and we should make the best of it.
 


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As opposed to any other "hidden" village? *quirks single eyebrow*



Okey dokey! We've got Nega Team Uplift, starring
  • Mori Anna, the Emma Barnes expy
  • Kurosawa Shin, the designated straightman
  • Wakahisa Kiri, the laid back clique-member-trope
Let's go over their dialogue and behaviors in a bit more detail. If we ever interact with them (as would be narratively compelling given Anna's backstory, and likely given their stated intention to let us mess with their heads talk to us) then we want a good picture of how they think (and how to exploit how they think).

The following is written from the premise of treating these characters as enemies who we are trying to stress to the point of quitting the exam, as previously discussed.



I was originally planning to write up a profile on all three genin, but this took longer than expected, so here's a vivisection of Mori Anna, the most interesting of the three and the easiest to destroy:

"I find myself concerned," Anna repeated patiently. Ordinarily, Shin had great respect for her powers of prediction, but he had been on tenterhooks since the end of the event, and clearly all the fidgeting had expended energy vital to the function of his brain.

  • Similar speech patterns to Kei, this might be a common trait of Mori.
  • Confidence in her own intellect, especially in regards to "prediction" (?) as opposed to analysis. Could potentially make her feel vulnerable by forcing her into a chaotic situation that robs her of that strength.
  • Possibly derisive of people who aren't as smart as she is. Would need further examples to establish a pattern of thinking rather than a one-off frustration.
"Chill, Spider-girl," Kiri drawled lazily, lounging back with the padding on her barrel as a peculiar pillow. Anna found herself once again attempting to calculate how many people would need to die before the nickname was finally forgotten.

  • Please tell me Kei knows the story behind that nickname. Please.
"We're well ahead of the game here, and we ain't got a scratch on us. You hear what happened to Team Kanon?"

Anna shuddered involuntarily.

  • Something scary happened to team Kanon (do we know who they are?) and it's shaken Anna. If we can evoke similarities, even superficial ones, then that will help us get under her skin.
"My concern," she said after banishing the mental images, "is that we may not be playing the game we believe we are. Did you see the figurative cartload of seals Team Gōketsu delivered to the proctor?"

  • Further evidence that she prides herself on her ability to predict outcomes. What actually happened doesn't match what she thought would happen. That scared her and she latched onto it, refusing to let the subject drop.
Now they were here, he was once again practicing sitting still as a statue, his spine as upright as the tree behind him. One of these days, somebody needed to explain to him that a stance with no tells was a tell in itself, especially to anyone who knew him and his actual habitual body language.

  • A degree of social awareness that beats Shin's. We don't know Shin's social skill-level, but it's implied to be a lot smoother than Hazou's was before he started training with Mari.
"I find myself unable to reconcile Team Gōketsu's performance with their reputation as incompetents who fled the village rather than face a real challenge for the first time in their careers. Consider the audacity and the extraordinary success of Hidden Fortress."

  • Notices that the evidence doesn't fit the narrative. Yeah, yeah, we know you're smart.
"A moot point," Anna said coolly. She had not fared well In the Labyrinth of a Thousand Traps, and the instructors had jostled her paralysed body quite severely on the way out. "The fact is that the Mori Keiko I know could not have manipulated her way into the position of a Kage's daughter. Indeed, she should have dragged down any team with her in it. I suspect the same can be said of the other two."

  • Traps are beaten by Awareness, so at the time of that exercise, Anna's Awareness was low. The question is, did she continue with a low-Awareness build? If so, we need to sic Sakura on her in ground prepared by Akane.
  • Weirdly dissmissive of Hazou and Noburi. If you eliminate Kei as the reason for our success, then shouldn't her teammates be the first thing you look at? What bias causes Anna to suspect Hazou and Noburi must also be incompetent? Can we use it?
"Pull back the messenger bird," Kiri said suddenly. "You know the girl? This is intel, Anna. You know, the thing you lecture us about every other week?"

"I could hardly be unaware of her past existence," Anna said reluctantly, "clanswomen as we once were."

"Nuh-uh," Kiri said with that damnable intuition of hers. "You know something. Fess up, Spider-girl. It's for the good of the team."

"It's nothing important," Anna said. "We were friends once. That is all."

Kiri gave a meaningful whistle. "Ladies and gentlemen, if I can call Shin that without cracking up laughing, we have ourselves an in."

Anna suppressed a scowl. "Allow me to revise that statement. I thought we were friends once. I learned of my error. There is no connection that one could remotely describe as an 'in'. Can we drop this subject now?"

Kiri gave an evil grin. "Ooh, Big Sis is sensing a story. Sorry, Spider-girl, you ain't getting out of this one now."

"You don't have to if you don't want to, Anna," Shin said peaceably. "Kiri will probably hound you for the rest of your days if you decide to withhold this information that could help out our team in the Chūnin Exam, as well as help us understand you better, but for my part I'm not going to press you."

Stupid best friends and their stupid knowledge of her emotional levers. Still, Shin was good at keeping secrets because he believed it made him more like the Seven Shinobi Swordsmen, and Kiri was good at keeping secrets because she was convinced that being the only person to know something made her special. And after everything they'd been through together, what was one more cripplingly humiliating admission more or less?

  • Deeply ashamed of her past self. Oh this is too good. Such a wonderful button to press. And so many ways we could press it! We could have two of our team members roleplay the personalities of young!Anna and young!Kei while we talk to them, we could have Kei act out the role of young!Anna treating present!Anna the way young!Anna treated young!Kei, we could mockingly refer to things as "supercool". All these options!
"I had no meaningful knowledge of her until I encountered her at the Academy," Anna began. "She was a withdrawn individual. She did not socialise with others, but spent all of her time alone. In my past self's terms, she 'kept her own counsel' and it made her 'the coolest person ever'. That she was the sister of the clan hero did not harm her position either."

Anna cringed a little as she remembered her younger self. Childish. Naïve. Possessed of a lamentable tendency to babble when excited, and inclined to overuse words such as "awesome", "badass" and "supercool" in favour of an actual vocabulary.

  • So, now we know what she hates about her past self, we just flip them around to find the traits she values in her present self: Maturity. Realism/Cynicism. Vocabulary, and an ability to hold her tongue. If we want to damage her self-image then we should either poison these concepts somehow (for example, putting her into a situation where being jaded causes her to miss opportunities that a naive person spots), or set things up so that she comes to believe that she hasn't changed, hasn't grown, that she's still an idiot child who can't keep her mouth shut. That the fact she thought she'd improved only means that she's incapable of self-awareness.
  • It would be really funny if we had Kei affect the air of the most enthusiastic extrovert ever. Just... imagine: Anna is expecting social-turtle withdrawn as deeply as possible into her shell, but gets "HEEEYAAA GUUUUYS! NO TIME LONG SEE! Oops? Hehe. Soooooooooooooooo! Whad't you gals been up to, huh? Huh? Did Minori and Joutarou hook up yet? OMIGOSH those two would just be ADORABLE!!!!1!"
"I admired Keiko," she said bitterly. "I made every effort to befriend her, and while in retrospect I believe she likely tolerated me at best, she did not refuse when I invited her to spend time together." She had the attention of her object of adoration, and they had been some of the happiest days of her childhood.

  • Maybe there's a way we could play on that? Display Kei as an actual lone wolf badass (as opposed to terrified introvert) and rekindle that old admiration? Might be hard at this point, but Mari believes in us!
"However, all of that ended with a single incident. She had grudgingly condescended to be dragged along to a game played with several other girls. There was a dare."

"What kind of dare?" Shin asked, intrigued.

Through pure force of will, Anna did not blush. "That is immaterial."

It was, of course, not immaterial at all. Even knowing all along that they were only playing and it didn't mean anything, there was still a special sense of trust in that moment. Something that, she found with the wisdom of age, she might now label as intimacy.

  • Oh hey, a nerve we can touch! Neat!
"And then she pushed me away," Anna said, wilfully skipping over the crucial part of the narrative. If nothing else, there was a boy present. "She screamed and pushed me away, as if I was something disgusting, and she ran. And when I came back, the others asked me how I could have been so impossibly bad at it."

Keiko had never apologised. Never said a word about the incident. As if it had been natural to react that way. A matter of course.

"That was when I understood that her aloofness was not a trait to be admired. It was the primary manifestation of her being a freak. And once I was in possession of that knowledge, I found it essential to share it with others. I developed new friends quickly once I parted ways with Keiko, and together we made sure to teach her her place.

"She never fought back," Anna added, "if you desire tactical information. She only hid like a coward."

  • Yeaaaah... You shouldn'ta did that. To the Summoner daughter of the hokage and teammate of Yog-sothoth.
"Regardless," Anna said sharply, "my point is that Keiko is weak. She lacks the social skills necessary to cooperate with others. She could not have engineered whatever master plan earned her a place at the Hokage's side, nor an exam strategy designed around large-scale teamwork. There is somebody else standing behind her success, and for as long as they go unidentified, I find myself unwilling to challenge Team Gōketsu."

  • Dial it back, Emma.
  • Point of fact: Kei's social skills are vastly better than Nega Team Uplift believes ("can't cooperate with others"? what?). We can use that.
  • So, um, NTU believes Hazou to be the mastermind. If we can present him as totally incompetent then Anna is back in a position of not knowing who the mastermind is. That will set her on edge and make her not want to move against us.
Mmm, Nara Shikamaru…

Anna snapped out of it before Kiri's intuition could kick in.

  • Kei, break out your acting skills. Don the mantle of alpha-bitch. And rub your betrothal in Anna's face.
"How appalling," Anna agreed. It might have been the most romantic thing she'd ever heard.

  • There's probably nothing useful here, but it's a good thing to notice in case we ever need to play up that angle somehow for whatever reason.
"Because Lady Ren is single, and has always been single, and has shown about as much interest in men as Anna here."

"Hey!"

  • Ooh! A reaction! I wonder what would happen if Kei kissed her full on the mouth unexpectedly. Followed by "Meh. Last one was better."
"Which is what this comes down to," Anna concluded. "Conventional wisdom, as well as heavy hints from our superiors, suggest that Team Gōketsu are vile traitors who must be punished for the injury they have dealt our respective clans. And it seems we have now established that Gōketsu Hazō is our primary target. Eliminate him, and the other two will be helpless."

  • I wouldn't say helpless, but they would be down a team leader with a hivemind in his brain. Hmn. We should probably try to improve Noburi's abilities as a lieutenant in case of unexpected Hazoucide.
  • Also, eliminate Hazou? Ominous. Could we trick people into thinking that there never was a Hazou? Just Noburi's been walking around with a henged Water Clone and making it say his ideas? And also there never was a Noburi. Or a Kei. The Pangolins have just been slowly infiltrating our reality using human disguises and-- Nah. Easier to just make people think we're lupchanzed.
Keiko. She was a traitor, here and now. There was no point doubting facts. But looking back, looking at everything… Anna found herself wondering why. There must have been some compelling reason, like greed or cowardice or even ideology. It would be absurd to suggest that Anna's own behaviour had driven Keiko to betrayal. What she'd done… it had been necessary, and right, and in any case what kind of weakling would run away from their village over a little thing like that?

The thought caught on some jagged edge of her mind. If Keiko had died out there in the wilderness, if she'd been eaten by a chakra beast or stabbed in the back by her fellow traitors or beheaded by Captain Zabuza, would it have been Anna's fault? If Keiko had survived by some strange chance and was now in a position any shinobi would envy, was that in spite of Anna's actions? Where did that leave Anna now?

"I don't know," Anna finally said. "The point is moot, and there is nothing to be gained in pondering hypotheticals."

  • Cling to that shred of empathy, Anna. For your own sake.
  • If we want to play up the "you almost got Kei deaded" angle and beat her over the head with guilt we could just tell the truth about some of the things that we went through. Or put Hazou's "make shit up" skill to good use. The latter preserves OPSEC. It would be hard to open that scar up, but if we could do it, we could pretty easily start pouring venom into the wound.
"But there's no hurry, right?" Anna asked desperately. "Surely it is more of a priority to secure our lead over the other teams than to indulge random whims of unproductive curiosity?"

"Chill, Spider-girl. If it comes down to you facing off with your ex, Shin and I have your back all the way. Let him do his diplomacy shtick for a while, and once he's had enough we can crush Team Gōketsu like the dishonourable bastards they are. Bam! Closure for your childhood trauma, victory in the exams and massive brownie points with you-know-who all in one go."

"She is not my ex, O insufferable Wakahisa bitch, and the only childhood trauma here is the blunt force that must have been applied repeatedly to your cranium as a baby. Now can we please set aside this tomfoolery in favour of practical concerns?" Anna might not have been a Kurosawa, but deadpan snark was one skill which she was proud to have made her own.

"All right," Shin said. "Motion tabled. Let's talk word halves and proctor signatures."

"Let's." Perhaps if Anna could keep their team sufficiently busy, somebody else might eliminate the Gōketsu before they had a chance to meet.

  • Nervous about meeting Kei again? Good. Let's make it really obvious where we are to speed up the meeting. Having Anna off-balance and in a state where we can wind her up into a public meltdown would be excellent.
 
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After all Team Forklift has experienced they should be head and shoulders beyond their peers during acedemy.

Even if these guys are some kind of super geniuses the gap should still be noticable. Either way it'll be fun meeting Team Down-lift.
 
Nervous about meeting Kei again? Good. Let's make it really obvious where we are to speed up the meeting. Having Anna off-balance and in a state where we can wind her up into a public meltdown would be excellent.
You're not thinking enough like Emma. Have Hazou and Noburi send her into a meltdown, but make it private enough that it won't be supremely embarrassing. Let Keiko comfort her which will allow them to "reconcile" and give Anna the opportunity to see her the way Keiko sees Ami.

And then, at some later time of Keiko's choosing (pref. during the Exams), murder Anna. With words.
 
You're not thinking enough like Emma. Have Hazou and Noburi send her into a meltdown, but make it private enough that it won't be supremely embarrassing. Let Keiko comfort her which will allow them to "reconcile" and give Anna the opportunity to see her the way Keiko sees Ami.

And then, at some later time of Keiko's choosing (pref. during the Exams), murder Anna. With words.

Delightful.
 
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Still, I think we can do more than just have Anna humiliate herself in the Exams. If we can make Keiko and Anna's friendship visible to the Mori Clan, they'll probably start using Anna as leverage to have Keiko go along with their plans. Not only will we be able to influence Mori policy through this (since Anna's not a social threat, we have stronger pressure), but we'll also be able to break Anna further by forcing her to choose between her friend/idol and her clan. Maybe we can even turn her, and my GODS wouldn't that be an interesting twist, to subvert (or at least start) the entirety of Team Nega?
 
Still, I think we can do more than just have Anna humiliate herself in the Exams. If we can make Keiko and Anna's friendship visible to the Mori Clan, they'll probably start using Anna as leverage to have Keiko go along with their plans. Not only will we be able to influence Mori policy through this (since Anna's not a social threat, we have stronger pressure), but we'll also be able to break Anna further by forcing her to choose between her friend/idol and her clan. Maybe we can even turn her, and my GODS wouldn't that be an interesting twist, to subvert (or at least start) the entirety of Team Nega?

You can do it, Kei! Believe in the Mari who believes in you!
 
This update clued me in on the fact that if we want to get along with our clans, we're going to need a story to explain our defection and subsequent actions. It should ideally lay the blame on some other party while also allowing us to claim continued loyalty to Mist.

Then I had a really funny idea. Who is going to be our scapegoat? Why, Yagura of course. We repurpose Shikigami's story, except it was all the fault of the evil, paranoid Mizukage who sent us to our deaths. As much as we would've wanted to come back and face justice to clear our names, all it would achieve is let Yagura kill us quietly to hide his secret.

And isn't it just a wonderful coincidence that he died before he could lead Mist into a destructive and doomed war against Leaf? Now that aunt Ren is Mizukage, and the new Hokage's clan has such strong ties to Mist's most prominent clans, an unprecedented alliance between the two villages can easily crush those Kumo and Iwa scum.

Truly, we owe so much to our uncle Kagome. As we aimlessly wandered the Elemental Nations, hiding in forests and seeing Zabuza in every shadow, Kagome found us, took us under his wing, and guided our path towards a better future. It is thanks to him that we are able to again walk the beautiful streets of Mist, and to be reunited with our families that we never thought we'd see again.

Of course, we can only explicitly say small bits and pieces of this, and let people complete the story for themselves. All according to (Kagome's) keikaku.
 
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It would be really funny if we had Kei affect the air of the most enthusiastic extrovert ever. Just... imagine: Anna is expecting social-turtle withdrawn as deeply as possible into her shell, but gets "HEEEYAAA GUUUUYS! NO TIME LONG SEE! Oops? Hehe. Soooooooooooooooo! Whad't you gals been up to, huh? Huh? Did Minori and Joutarou hook up yet? OMIGOSH those two would just be ADORABLE!!!!1!"

A twisted part of me wants to see Hazou try to suggest this to Keiko, just to see how badly she reacts to the idea. Bonus points for how much Hazou would stumble over himself trying to give examples.
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Any update on:
  • Keiko's Pangolins/Pangolin jutsu?
  • Character sheets?
  • Unanswered questions from the last update:
    • Who did the other Leaf teams encounter and how did it go?
    • Who do they think are the high-power dangerous teams to watch out for?
    • How many seals did they bring in?
    • How did other Teams locate the Exam?
    • For any team who turned in word, put high priority on learning how proctors treated them and what measures were in place to prevent them from sending messages back.
Also, does Hazou have any idea any of the characters in the Interlude exist, and/or that we have to prepare for their actions?
 
I wonder if it's normal to have genin teams of Kurosawa + Mori + Wakahisa akin to the Shikamaru triad for Leaf? Is that normally the team-up or something?
 
I wonder if it's normal to have genin teams of Kurosawa + Mori + Wakahisa akin to the Shikamaru triad for Leaf? Is that normally the team-up or something?
Unlikely, since Kurosawa are combat fighters while Mori/Wakahisa are meant in support roles. FMPOV teams are generally built around a theme, like Team Kurenai as a scout/stealth team, or Guy as a combat team.
 
A twisted part of me wants to see Hazou try to suggest this to Keiko, just to see how badly she reacts to the idea. Bonus points for how much Hazou would stumble over himself trying to give examples.

We could totally sell it to her. Play on the whole "Mari would be so proud of you" angle. Remind her of that time she seduced those civilian boys in a way that implies Anna is about as powerful in this situation as they were, and so force her to recognise that she's capable of acting. Explain to her the joys of completely derailing her enemy's brains by behaving in a way they would never expect, and then exploiting their moment of confusion for her own gain.
 
A few grammatical mistakes here.

"I'm a little worried about the Gōketsu trio too. Kiri, I know you're raring to get back in action"he looked pointedly at her supine position"but Anna's right

"I'm a little worried about the Gōketsu trio too. Kiri, I know you're raring to get back in action," he said, lookinglooked pointedly at her supine position, "but Anna's right

Two possible corrections; dialogue interrupted by action is written with em dashes placed outside the quotation marks, not commas. If you need commas, then you need a said-equivalent verb, as demonstrated in the second possible correction.

If you don't socialise, if you push everybody away"Anna didn't flinch"then you're dragging the whole group down. You can't hurt everyone around you like that and expect nobody to hurt you back."

"A traitor born of a traitor." Shin narrowed his eyes.

Narrowing one's eyes is not a verbal verb, so the comma needs to be a period.
 
Alright but really, we shouldn't be trying to break Team Downfall. I wasn't kidding when I said they were our in to our former clans.
 
"Our," @Cariyaga said, acting as though Hazou's clan hadn't exiled his mother into abject poverty for falling in love. "Our."

The path to getting mom safely to Leaf lies in Ren's plan succeeding. We can help that by playing nice with the Kurosawa, and so we will. Hazou is going to grit his metaphorical teeth, work his Deceit to hide the disdain and bitterness he feels for the clan, and do his best to convince his cousin Shin that he's not a filthy traitor worthy of being put down on the spot.

If we want to actually help, rather than hope Jiraiya and Ren will fix things on their own, then this is the best angle we have.
 
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