@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail How about that timeline update?
September 3 Chapter 125: New Travels, New Adventures
September 3-4 Chapter 126: Dawn of the Serpent
September 4 Chapter 127: Applying a Pin
September 4(-5?) Chapter 128: Taking the Lead
September 5(?) Chapter 129: Kagome on Trial
September 5 Chapter 129.1: Kagome's Apology
September 5-11 Chapter 130: Secrets
September 11 Chapter 132: Conversations Like Sand
September 12 Chapter 133: Choices
September 12-13 Chapter 134: Planning and Plotting
September 14(?) Chapter 135: Tolerance
September 14-15 Chapter 136: Game On, Noburi
September 15(?) Chapter 137: Trust and Affection
September 15-16 Chapter 138: The Morning Tide
September 16-17 Chapter 139: Murder
September 17 Chapter 139.1: Murder, Complete
September 17 Chapter 140: Responsibility
 
Omake: Meta
Meta
"Hey, Noburi."

He jumped and stared exaggeratedly at Hazō. "Oh god. Last time you used that tone, you made me kill a poor squirrel for science. That thing had family, Hazō!" The science hadn't worked, of course.

"In my defence, it attacked us," It had, but he responded before thinking.

They both winced. Before, that joke might have flown fine.

He went over what he was about to say in his head one more time before moving on. Can't stop to think about it right now. "Anyway: Do you know if the Wakahisa ever tried to quantify chakra?"

Noburi spoke through his thoughts, "Well… maybe? I'm not sure -- I can tell chakra levels on a relative basis as it is just by draining someone, so I haven't seen much need for it."

"I was considering that it might be possible to determine exactly how much chakra techniques use. If they always use about the same amount, then we could develop a standard like number-of-clones or something like that so that we could determine exactly how much chakra we have and better optimize combat efficacy -- I mean, imagine what Kei could do if she knew exactly how much chakra we all have and how much it takes to use our techniques?"

They both paused for a moment, before mutually shuddering at the thought. "...Still probably worth trying."

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Shikaku stared at the two shinobi in front of him, one eyebrow quirked just slightly, but did not speak. He'd worked long and hard on that expression -- just quizzical enough to express 'Why should I use my time with you?', just patronly enough to say 'I care for what you say even if it is a poor use of my time'. Perfect to optimize for the amount of time subordinates take to express what they need to -- even the shy and nervous would strive to please.

They stirred uncomfortably.

Body language was something Shikaku had learned through long, tiring effort to use effectively -- for non-Nara it was among the only ways to get across the subtleties of language. Although -- the Kurosawa had been publicly -- for anyone of his position, at least -- expressing interest in learning their sign language. Were it not that Jiraiya had sunk his claws so deeply into the child, Shikaku would have been glad to welcome such a creative, open mind into his clan just as well as his teammate.

Wakahisa cleared his throat -- interesting, it seemed that he would be taking the lead in their present endeavour -- and spoke, "Sir, we're here to make a formal request of you in your capacity as Jounin Commander to provide us with documentation regarding the use of the following techniques by enemy -- and allied, though we understand reticence in that regard -- ninja." He slid a piece of paper over, briefly showing both sides.

It was a pity that these young ninja showed him more respect in letting him see the sheet was not sealed than many of his clan did.

His eyes ran over it. Yes, most of the techniques they knew, several others added in to try to throw him off. It seemed they were experimenting on chakra quantification. To his knowledge, the Wakahisa hadn't experimented as thoroughly as they intended to on it before, so he would be curious to know the results.

"Alright, I'll give you what you want under the condition that you share the results with me before anyone outside of your clan." He paused, eyes sliding to Kurosawa. "Or those that may be part of it in the near future."

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"So as you can see, Hazō can use ten Transformations before he passes out from chakra exhaustion." Noburi nudged his teammate's body, passing over a vial of his water to Akane to administer. She did so as he continued talking, leaving Hazō to sputter as he stirred blearily.

"We've done other experiments too -- it seems techniques use close enough to the same amount of chakra every time a person uses them, and while not exactly the same amount person to person, close enough to make proper estimations of chakra pool size. For instance, he can also use the basic Clone technique twenty times, whereas I can do so well over a hundred. This indicates that Clone uses about half as much chakra as Transformation."

Akane helped Hazō up and as Noburi glanced at her, "I served as an intermediary between them and the data you provided, stripping the individuals they investigated of their name and assumed-rank."

Shikaku was not afraid to admit he was impressed at their thoroughness. Not many thought to eliminate their own bias as a factor from research they did.

Keiko chimed in, "We were able create a standard for measuring chakra, which we called Chakra Points. Using the mathematical techniques of yo -- our clan, I was able to collate the data they gathered, and determine the approximate amount of chakra each enemy combatant had.

With this data and our own experimentation were able to determine how much 'CP' it cost to boost one's capabilities. We have determined that an absolute beginner at a technique or skill may boost it 'once' for five CP. It proceeds linearly from there -- as someone gets better at a skill or technique, they are able to boost it further for an additional five CP for every 'level' of boost. With this, we have been able to quantify skill levels relative to the amount of chakra it takes to boost, and in comparing this to combat effectiveness," Both of the boys winced slightly, "I have determined that it is governed by this formula:"

She slid across a piece of paper with a line of elegant writing.

(your luck - their luck) / (your skill + their skill)^0.65​
 
We really need to get panjandrum into better shape. Should see if we can get our drill sergeant to drill him to the extreme
 
Omake: Sudden Death Mode.

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Team Uplift finally were on the verge of reaching Leaf once again. Unfortunately, it took them three days, But the unexpected. . . Issues that arose during the travel.

On the way to the village, Goda managed to wake himself up and swallow a poison pill of some sorts, so Noburi and Hazou went on an adventure to the forests to hopefully find a cure. When they found it and managed to cure Goda, One of the ninja-girls turned out to be really good at stoping a heart through genjutsu (awfully reminiscent of Inoue-sensei), ending goda's life. And that all during the first day. Of course, the team immediately placed Goda's body in a storage scroll, and went on with the ninja.

On the second day, Hazou's constant feeling of failure finally got Noburi to cave-in, and at least try to research the weird idea of an attempt to ressurect a human being through chakra. After a day of theorising, the time of the test came. Turns out, Hazou just found out a new, ultra-powerfull technique that's way better than the ones already known. Mainly because it returned someone to life for unlimited time (meaning, not chakra weird construct), Doesn't need a sacrafice, and is much easier to use. There was a moment where Noburi seemed to murmur something along the lines of "Typical hazou. . . Never gives a chance. . . Stupid genius. . .".

The third day went on uneventfully, baring the fact that the 2 ninja girls broke out, brutally torn off akane's head and ran away. Fortunately, The new ressurection technique went into play. . . Although the scar on Akane's neck WILL be there for a life-time. Oh, And rain began to fall.

Anyway. Team's uplift Hazou, Akane and Noburi closed on onto the walls of the Leaf village, Approached the gates. . . And felt restless, as the Sun came out from behind the clouds which finally stopped raining.

". . . Something's not right." Hazou spoke to his teammates.

"Well, DUH. There are no guards. . . Or civilians, for that matter." Noburi replied, Still slightly incensed for no apparent (for hazou) reason.

At that point, Akane hastily jumped forward, passing between the boys and ran through the gates, visibly worried.

"Better follow her in." Hazou called, and ran forward. Noburi followed.

When they passed the gates, Akane. . . . . . Let's say that the view of what was left of her wasn't pleasant. Unfortunately, Both Hazou and Noburi didn't have the leisure to feel horrified with that.

There were 2 men standing in front of what was left of Akane. They were clothed in a Black coat-like clothes, With Red cloud symbols sewed in on them.

"Kisame. I thought you said that we killed all of them already." The tall man with black hair spoke. Unfortunately . . . Or fortunately. . . His face was hidden from sight, As he stood with his back towards the 2 boys.

"Cut me some slack, Itachi, Fighting that Heart-stopper girl or what she was called was hard. That girl here must've slipped past me when i was fighting her. Seriously, why didn't you let me fight Jiraya?"
Replied the blue-skinned Man with standing hair. He weirdly looked reminiscent of a Shark.

"Because he'd obliderate you."
Said matter-of-factly the man, who's apparently name is Itachi.

Noburi and Hazou stared at the two men in black, Horrified. . . Well, Noburi was horrified. Hazou followed Kagome's Rule Number One - "Throw Explosives" for short.

Hazou's eyes. . . Looked different. Not the "Emotionally unstable" weird. The "Sharingan" or "Byakugan" type of weird. They seemed to change their color to a Steely-gray, and followed the traits of 2 metal spheres with a pin-hole size darkening in the middle. . . Which figured that it was his pupils now.

Noburi took a step back, and looked towards the two Powerfull ninja in front of them. The one named Itachi turned slightly around, Just enough to spot Noburi, but not notice Hazou in middle of his Seal-throwing Fervor.
Then - Hell began.

He suddenly found himself falling down, In an enormous pillar of fire, surrounded by thousands of devils and Black-devilish crows.

Before Noburi managed to comprehend - Much less feel - What happened, Everything went back to normal. Well, Almost normal. Everything in front of him changed into an enormous hole, one tenth of the size that apparently the nine-tails left when it raged onto the Leaf village. It began raining once again, An enormous down-pour even. . . Although it began subsiding slowly. Really slowly.

There were 2, almost completely ripped apart coats dotted with red clouds falling slowly down not far away from Hazou and Noburi. Weirdly, Akane's body lied in front of Hazou, Only with it's neck severed. Again.

At that moment, Jiraya, with an enormous wound on his stomach came by.

"Well kids. You somehow save our asses once again. . . " and he fell down on his face, as many, very injured ninja began gathering together not far away from the Iron-eyed Hazou and Almost-peeing-himself Noburi.

Turns out, that Itachi Uchiha and Kisame Hoshigaki attacked the Leaf, as they found out that Goda, the one who knew where all their bases were, has been captured, and somehow found out it was leaf-nin. Itachi, using his powerfull Sharingan, and a powerfull water reflection, Captured everyone in the leaf under his illusion, and slowly killed everyone, first investigating each person to find out where Goda was. When Akane, Noburi and Hazou came into range, they also got under the effect, and Itachi with Kisame came by, as they found out 4 new people in. That was the moment when they both made the biggest mistake they could, AND got the least luck possible, As Hazou began bombarding everything, just as they passed the corner that separated both teams. The rest you probably already know.

This moment has been later dubbed as the true beggining of the Most famous ninja on the planet - The only one with a dubious rank of SS-ninja (Not super-super ninja, But Super-Sage level ninja).

Hazou, The Iron-Cold killer, The one who uplifted the world.

P.S: He's been dubbed as "Super-Sage level ninja" because he insta-killed 2 S-rank ninja of the most powerfull, rogue, organisation ever - Akatsuki. And all that when under a Genjutsu of the enemy.
 
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We really need to get panjandrum into better shape. Should see if we can get our drill sergeant to drill him to the extreme
Definitely.

As an aside, it occurs to me that we should probably spend some time with Ino when we get back. Inoichi was worried about us being a bad influence -- we need to prove him right by showing Ino that civilians are people, too. She was seemingly impressed with our speech to Jiraiya way back when, and I'm almost certain that's what Inoichi was referring to when he mentioned that Hazou was a bad influence.

e: Probably be for the best to check with Jiraiya before we make a project of it, though -- given how protective Inoichi seems we'll likely need J to run interference as we convert Ino to our namby-pamby civilian-hugging lifestyle.
 
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e: Probably be for the best to check with Jiraiya before we make a project of it, though -- given how protective Inoichi seems we'll likely need J to run interference as we convert Ino to our namby-pamby civilian-hugging lifestyle.

Well as long as Jiraiya doesn't lose the hat we are basically royalty. So can afford to associate with other nobel kids without approval
 
So, I do actually think we should set Noburi to the task of quantifying chakra, though. It'd be useful for logistical purposes.
 
So, I do actually think we should set Noburi to the task of quantifying chakra, though. It'd be useful for logistical purposes.
That would be interesting. We'd first want to figure out the minimum cost of various jutsu, which would be Noburi draining them to 1CP and then giving them (just) enough chakra to cast the jutsu.

Then, since some jutsu have decreasing chakra expenditures with level, we'd want to account for that by comparing ninjas given known amounts of chakra to cast a jutsu: the more skilled ninja would be able to cast the jutsu more times.

Well. At least we know what Noburi can show Kabuto the next time they meet.
 
That would be interesting. We'd first want to figure out the minimum cost of various jutsu, which would be Noburi draining them to 1CP and then giving them (just) enough chakra to cast the jutsu.

Then, since some jutsu have decreasing chakra expenditures with level, we'd want to account for that by comparing ninjas given known amounts of chakra to cast a jutsu: the more skilled ninja would be able to cast the jutsu more times.

Well. At least we know what Noburi can show Kabuto the next time they meet.
Personally, I'm more interested in having him show it to Shikaku, though we'll obviously need to figure out if it's a unique line of research before we go that far.

Admittedly, I, too, shudder at the thought of what Kei could do with the kind of information this would provide.
 
Personally, I'm more interested in having him show it to Shikaku, though we'll obviously need to figure out if it's a unique line of research before we go that far.

Admittedly, I, too, shudder at the thought of what Kei could do with the kind of information this would provide.

No we don't show it to Shikaku. We do it through Jiraiya only. Clan secrets.
 
No we don't show it to Shikaku. We do it through Jiraiya only. Clan secrets.
...Why would we keep quantifying chakra a secret??? I mean, from other nations, sure, maybe, but... I dunno why we would. It's a major logistical advantage and those scale much more effectively with numbers.

e: Also, I just thought of a way we could make seal-based chakra batteries. These wouldn't be particularly scalable, but if you made them only absorb the chakra put into them at infusion-time, it wouldn't accidentally the universe, right?
 
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...Why would we keep quantifying chakra a secret??? I mean, from other nations, sure, maybe, but... I dunno why we would. It's a major logistical advantage and those scale much more effectively with numbers.

Because it's a huge tactical advantage. We just had a lesson on not giving away secrets. So we can sell it to other clans but we don't give it away. That's just squandering political capital
 
Because it's a huge tactical advantage. We just had a lesson on not giving away secrets. So we can sell it to other clans but we don't give it away. That's just squandering political capital
In politics you don't "sell" things. You trade for favors.

But setting that aside, didn't we literally just have a whole, like, three chapter dealio on how toxic ninja world secrecy is? Something about six dozen civilians dying? :p

Don't really wanna contribute to that any more than necessary.
 
In politics you don't "sell" things. You trade for favors.

But setting that aside, didn't we literally just have a whole, like, three chapter dealio on how toxic ninja world secrecy is? Something about six dozen civilians dying? :p

Don't really wanna contribute to that any more than necessary.

See my read on ninja culture is that traditionally we would keep everything secret forever. Where as I want to be able to freely trade to slowly change traditions in the ninja world.
 
So can afford to associate with other nobel kids without approval

Nobles aren't really reactive, though. If we want to bond, we should really look to group 14, which is more organic. Carbonate drinks, have a silly con, and we can discuss germane issues. If we make sure to not come off as tin gods, I'm confident the whole thing won't go over like a lead balloon.
 
Nobles aren't really reactive, though. If we want to bond, we should really look to group 14, which is more organic. Carbonate drinks, have a silly con, and we can discuss germane issues. If we make sure to not come off as tin gods, I'm confident the whole thing won't go over like a lead balloon.
I quite enjoy it when U enrich my life with chemistry-based Pu-ns.
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail How about that timeline update?
September 3 Chapter 125: New Travels, New Adventures
September 3-4 Chapter 126: Dawn of the Serpent
September 4 Chapter 127: Applying a Pin
September 4(-5?) Chapter 128: Taking the Lead
September 5(?) Chapter 129: Kagome on Trial
September 5 Chapter 129.1: Kagome's Apology
September 5-11 Chapter 130: Secrets
September 11 Chapter 132: Conversations Like Sand
September 12 Chapter 133: Choices
September 12-13 Chapter 134: Planning and Plotting
September 14(?) Chapter 135: Tolerance
September 14-15 Chapter 136: Game On, Noburi
September 15(?) Chapter 137: Trust and Affection
September 15-16 Chapter 138: The Morning Tide
September 16-17 Chapter 139: Murder
September 17 Chapter 139.1: Murder, Complete
September 17 Chapter 140: Responsibility
Hey, thanks for the reminder, I only just got back to my place and am gonna do a little food consumption before getting on this :)
 
Stone Cold Storage
Putting Your Friends on Ice or:

Ramblings on the feasibility of seal base cryonics

1) Why it should work.
  1. The victims patients aren't actually dying, just being brought to a storage-scrollable state.
  2. Subjectively, the draining and filling will be back to back, with almost no time between them.
  3. We've gotten no indication that stored food tastes funny, which is evidence in favor of properly protected stored items not getting exposed to any sort of o͉͞u͖͎t̯͙͎͖ radiation.
  4. If storing them doesn't mess them up in some subtle way, then this should work.
I do not believe this will work on those who die via traditional means. Those guys reached 0 chakra due to dying, they did not die due to reaching 0 chakra a likely important distinction. Putting new chakra in them isn't going to undo the blood loss induced brain damage. Sorry, Sarutobi.

2) Why nobody has discovered it yet.
Discovering this would require several disparate sets of knowledge, as well as specific abilities relating to chakra.

It would require an understanding of
  1. Sealing (Time doesn't pass in storage scrolls, you cannot store high chakra objects)
  2. Biology (A lack of a heart beat doesn't mean you're dead, but brain death occurs within minutes.)
  3. Chakra (Chaka exhaustion, even after flatlining, can be cured with (some types of, maybe any?) infusion of Chakra)
It would also require the following resources
  1. A freshly dead animal/human killed via chakra draining. (Much fresher than the madman creative scientist may likely expect they need.)
  2. The ability to sense chakra. (So you know exactly when the patient has reached 0)
  3. The ability to drain chakra.
  4. The ability to shove chakra into people.
It would also require the motivation, and the idea. We didn't have to come up with either of these, since they're both already real. But people in the Naruto verse do.
And this isn't necessarily a natural idea to have: It didn't seem to come up much until the late 19th century. (Wiki, Google Books) 3​

2.5 (Conjecture about the number of people who have the requisite knowledge.)

Seeing how rare seal masters are, and that the Wakihisa clan isn't that large1​, they likely didn't have more than 2-3 a generation. I have no way to gauge the frequency of medics/doctors among the Wakihisa, other than that since they're support ninja primarily they probably had a higher rate than baseline. Seeing as Ninjas heavily specialize, I'd estimate a very low chance that the few Wakihisa Seal masters that exist are also medics. It's not impossible that they collaborated, just as Hazou and Noburi will. However, this requires that one know something about the capabilities of the other. How likely is a medic to know the pertinent sealing information, so they know that path will help them, solve a problem?

Bio seal masters are those who are most likely to have discovered this, and do pose a bit of a problem. Didn't Arikida store those zombies she made? I don't think this is ultimately a problem, because even if they discovered it…

3) Why it's not that big of a deal.
  1. It's not a hard secret to keep.

    Say the Wakihisa had already discovered this, and kept it as air tight as they do with usual clan secrets. All the Wakihisa would have to do is tell their Jounin to drain their mortally wounded dry, stick them in a scroll, and bring them home for repairs. If they got intercepted by an enemy patrol and killed, all the patrol would find is somebody bringing home their dead to bury. Nothing suspicious here, since you can seal corpses.

  2. It's not as useful as it sounds.
This wouldn't even increase their survival that much. It would only help when a squad successfully defeated the enemy, but an ally was wounded more heavily than field medicine can fix. With how lethal ninja combat is, I can't imagine landing in that margin is that common.

There are creative military applications for this, (sneaking ninja in places where you're only allowed to have a few. Maybe?) but using it that way risks the death of your stored ninja should they get unsealed by somebody else, and it risks the secret getting out.6​ Is that really worth losing your clans advantage of having a ~5%7​ lower annual Jounin attrition rate? If I were the supportive, content-to-be-on-the-sidelines Wakihisa it'd be nowhere near worth it.

4) Experiments!
  • Just Do It.
    1. Acquire chakra squirrel. (Ordinary squirrel if need be, but this way our test subject actually has a chakra network.)
    2. Suck it dry.
    3. Stick in storage scroll.
    4. Wait a day.
    5. Pull it out.
    6. Resuscitate via Noburi Mouth-to-Mouth water whip or syringe down throat.
    7. If successful, execute Experiments "Civilian Storage" and "Cruel and Unusual".
  • Cruel and Unusual
    1. As "Just Do It.", but substitute step 2 for "Euthanize painlessly in a non-chakra drain fashion. Wait for chakra to dissipate"
  1. Civilian Storage
    1. As "Just Do It.", but substitute a non- chakra animal for the chakra squirrel
  • Clinical Trials
    1. Acquire human test subject. This can be done in several fashions, depending on Leaf's opinion on all this.
    2. This can be done through capturing a criminal prisoner.
    3. Attempting the test on a prisoner slated to be executed.
    4. Finally, it can be done through volunteers. Seeing as the Aburame clan can act as a Wakihisa in a pinch a, eventually a squad with an Aburame member will have a casualty. If they are willing, they can store the body of their comrade they just finished off our patient in a storage scroll after draining them.
*1​ I don't know the exact number, but I'm imagining them as ~250 people in total, around 40 of which are ninja of some sort. Please correct me if this is way off base.
*25​
*3​ This might just be a terminology thing, maybe they called it "Long-sleep" back when the Neanderthals thought it up or whatever. It also could be a feasibility thing. Maybe it's an easy idea to have once you have something like the tools needed? Maybe Neanderthals thought of it, and dismissed the idea since they can hardly keep meat fresh without shoving a crap ton of salt into it.4​
*4​ I'm not seriously suggesting that Neanderthals had a widespread and sophisticated understanding of cryopreservation.
*5​ #2 is classified.
*6​ "Why did mist have a dozen dead Jonin in storage scrolls at the Kage summit?!"
*7​ This is a made up number.


Please let me know where I've disconnected entirely from reality or where I've gotten something 100% wrong, or where I've failed at basic grammar/editing.​
 
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