Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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- Yes.
We could go into Ame?
Last I checked nobody goes in there and comes back so it should be perfect for us to go to, and not be followed.
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- Leeds
You know what we need?
A list of things Hazou is not allowed to do. I'll start.
A list of things Hazou is not allowed to do. I'll start.
- Go Clothes Shopping.
- Go to the library.
- Raise complaints about medical treatments.
I'm fairly sure that comes under the eternal zeroth priority of "Don't Die.", but fair enough.
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- Europe
But that was less about "Hey canon was this, so it must be so here too" and more "Hey we are still in Character Build mode, meaning our decisions are pretty safe and all options are equally valid".
I guess that is meta-gaming, but it doesn't sound like the same kind of meta-gaming that has us being suspicious about Kabuto.
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- Yes.
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- The Deep Blue Sea
Orochimaru appreciates your cooperation.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
I was more referring to the phrasing at the end of the chapter than the title... although granted, I would be surprised if the phrasing there wasn't purposeful, too.
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- Europe
Is there actually anything we want to say to anyone? I guess leaving a few words might be worth it to keep up the few social connections we managed to make.
Then again this is Hazou, meaning we should probably shut up now and let our teammates take care of that.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
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- The Deep Blue Sea
I dunno, is there?
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- UK
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- He/Him
Oh, all options were equally valid - hence the fact that you were able to go from Mist into Fire. But it wouldn't have been a rational world if all options were equivalent.
If you'd come to this quest without any metaknowledge, your first move would have been to ask "how are these countries/villages different from each other?" and base your choices on that.
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- Snakesden
Augh. That'll teach me to focus on the worst-case. Should have included some kinda conditional thing about the politics angle
WRT sealing research, I think we should level up Hazo basic ninja skills and then his sealing skill before starting on the project to research all the seals Jiraiya given to us.
Then we'll decide what to research next.
With the great rebalancing, ninjas are stronger than ever, and we lost Akane, so we need to be extra vigilant.
Then we'll decide what to research next.
With the great rebalancing, ninjas are stronger than ever, and we lost Akane, so we need to be extra vigilant.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
Yeah, same.Augh. That'll teach me to focus on the worst-case. Should have included some kinda conditional thing about the politics angle
On that note: I think that Hazou should ask for politics and social skills (beyond "how to lie" or "how to convince people of things") training from Mari.
I'm pretty sure we could research the seals J gave us with little issue, with his research notes, but after that, yeah.
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- The Deep Blue Sea
Hey now, y'all made it out alive.Augh. That'll teach me to focus on the worst-case. Should have included some kinda conditional thing about the politics angle
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- Yes.
Akane didn't.
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- The Deep Blue Sea
True, but at least she violates the first part of the clause rather than the second. As far as you know.
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- Yes.
We threatened a guy who holds her life in his hands. If she's not buried by the time we hear from Jiraiya I'll be amazed.
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- Europe
Augh. That'll teach me to focus on the worst-case. Should have included some kinda conditional thing about the politics angle
No, that was a good move. Better go for the safe option instead of vying for points in a situation like this. We got lucky since Jiraya was fully in charge of everything that was happening.
Yeah, the dragon has our princess and is using her for blackmail. Not fun.
I agree. We just don't have the facts.
Yeah, the dragon has our princess and is using her for blackmail. Not fun.
Is he a dragon or is that just a figment of our meta-knowledge?
Kalkin
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- AK
We should be thinking of immediate things we can research from our new seals and at some point ask Kagome if he knows anything about the difficulty of creating larger storage seals. If it's linear, exponential or if there's no clear scale. Really we should probably just come up with a list of questions to ask Kagome and rank them by priority and likelihood that he'll overreact.
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I don't think Hazou is that much worse at these things than the rest of the team. Unfortunately, despite Waka being the nominal "Diplomancer" of the the younger generation of this team, Hazou's the one who ends up having all the important conversations and hence all the important screw-ups. Perhaps we should work on that.
That said, I'd be interested in finding out which stat we need to level to avoid another Library Incident.
Romance has been nothing but a source of trouble in this quest, and I can't think of a single positive thing to have come of it. Ask Inoue to teach us a Get-Over-It no Jutsu, and we can revisit the matter once we're scary enough that people are too afraid to use our attachments against us.Yeah, the dragon has our princess and is using her for blackmail. Not fun.
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- Snakesden
???
If Kabuto's smart, he'll know that a) Hazou has no credible path to actually hurting him, or convincing others to be suspicious of him, b) he has *immense* leverage over Hazou and the team in the form of Akane + their political debt, c) that all goes out the window (and he takes a political hit) if Akane dies.
I get that it's useful to worry about worst cases, but this doesn't seem like a plausible one. IMO, Keeping Akane alive as a bargaining chip for more bloodline info from us is by far the more valuable move to K, and K (leaf higher-up, high deception, always affable) seems very unlikely to be guided by emotion over expected value.
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We should definitely do all those things, but they're not mutually exclusive with me adding every high-level seal idea that I think is kinda neat to the tech tree.
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